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Quite a few comments...

1. You can't overclock the i5-8600 regardless of motherboard - that's a locked CPU
2. Dual channel memory would be highly recommended vs a single module
3. A 120GB SSD is really small, and will require a lot of storage maintenance to keep it running optimal
4. For the money, the FireCuda isn't a great choice (IMO)
5. The Optane module is almost a complete waste (IMO) there's some benefit paired with the 5400rpm drive you selected... but that $35 would be better spent elsewhere.
6. The Raidmax unit, while I believe it's one of their better ones... that doesn't say much. Plenty better options out there for the money.

Also, there's no "need" to keep your CPU as low-profile as the C7 in that case. It's an...
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but i need it to be a mini itx which one should I pick?
and it is the price for the build including motherboard
 

Barty1884

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Sorry, missed that.

The mITX options are limited.... with the cheapest @ $127
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/7HYWGX,mvzZxr,vHYWGX,DdNypg/


I have no idea what you want to be under 815 (and 815 what?)

You have $1,950 worth of components in your list.... and need another $100+ motherboard.
 
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sorry I put the wrong list check again please
price must be under 815
 
I would say something like this (your current PSU is garbage)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600 3.1GHz 6-Core Processor ($224.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($26.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($43.68 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($62.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING Video Card ($0.00)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Other: Intel Optane Memory Module 16 GB PCIe M.2 80mm MEMPEK1W016GAXT ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $751.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 13:01 EDT-0400

I dont know why PCPer is flagging incompatibilities. It seems as far as PCPer is concerned the 8600 is compatible with 0 motherboards.
 

Barty1884

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Quite a few comments...

1. You can't overclock the i5-8600 regardless of motherboard - that's a locked CPU
2. Dual channel memory would be highly recommended vs a single module
3. A 120GB SSD is really small, and will require a lot of storage maintenance to keep it running optimal
4. For the money, the FireCuda isn't a great choice (IMO)
5. The Optane module is almost a complete waste (IMO) there's some benefit paired with the 5400rpm drive you selected... but that $35 would be better spent elsewhere.
6. The Raidmax unit, while I believe it's one of their better ones... that doesn't say much. Plenty better options out there for the money.

Also, there's no "need" to keep your CPU as low-profile as the C7 in that case. It's an option, just not needed.

For the money (clearly the 1070 isn't included)... I'd do something more like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600 3.1GHz 6-Core Processor ($224.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING Video Card ($0.00)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $773.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 13:01 EDT-0400



Not just the 8600 unfortunately. Any 8th Gen Intel chip has no compatible boards (according to PCPP today) - and that's across all the regional variances of the site too..... somethings broken.
 
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Hey thanks man did not no that about 8600. thanks for your help
 

Barty1884

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Correct. Mean to say "with the 8600K"

It's also worth noting that, with the locked sku in the 8600, it ships with a stock CPU cooler. It's not *great*, but it's sufficient.

On a budget, the $20 or so saved could be repurposed elsewhere.... although no obvious use for it is jumping out at me.
 

Barty1884

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It looks..... fine?

1. The cooler isn't "needed", but definitely a nice to have.

2. Dual channel memory (2x4GB or 2x8GB) would be preferred and, depending on the task/game, can result in noticeable performance gains.

3. The +50% in price for the SSD (vs a budget SATA3 SSD) isn't going to net noticeable gains in "real world" use. Faster in benchmarks, and might shave a second off boot/load times, but you're talking 10seconds vs 9seconds (as an example).

4. The M12II (along with the S12II) are older platforms and, unless they're on sale... there's usually more modern, but equally good units available. $50 for an M12II seems a bit much to me. The CX450 I linked earlier is a quality unit, but lacks the modular aspect. 450W is also more than sufficient... although 500-550W would be a nice buffer if it made sense.

If you're ok with rebates, the SuperNOVA G3 is a fully modular 550W, new platform, of great quality. Works out to ~$54 after rebate.


Realistically, there's nothing you "need" to get. The build is fine as is (although ideally with some of the tweaks I mentioned^).

If you really want to spend the budget fully, I'd lay solid foundations (16GB RAM is much easier to get from the outset, opposed to trying to find a second, compatible 8GB module in X amount of time), along with a quality PSU and maybe a larger SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600 3.1GHz 6-Core Processor ($224.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Pure Rock Slim 35.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($21.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B360I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Ignite 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING Video Card ($0.00)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $836.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 17:13 EDT-0400

If you could squeeze in the OPtane module to 'boost' your HDD with the ~250GB SSD,.... I guess that would be something, but if you were pushing the budget, I'd be more inclined to increase your SSD capacity than add a small cache to an HDD.
 

Barty1884

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Likely to be heavily crippled by the 2666MHz memory (Ryzen benefits from 3000MHz+ memory), lack of dual channel (Ryzen benefits even more than Intel from dual channel performance), and the motherboard will need a BIOS update to support the 2600X

The Intel chip would be the better outright "gaming" rig..... but the 2600X nets you hyper-threading, which would be beneficial if you got into streaming, for example.

Beyond that, most of my comments from above ^^ still apply.

I'm not 100% sure if the 2600X ships with a stock cooler or not.... I don't think many (any?) of the "X" variants in the first Gen did.... so I'd be surprised if the 2600X did.

FWIW, if these Ryzen chips are similar to the first round (no reason to suspect they wouldn't be), the 2600 should be able to match the 2600X's speeds once overclocked - even matching what the 2600X can do overclocked..... so is probably the better purchase.



Assuming the BIOS is updated, I'd be inclined to look to something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($111.94 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Ignite 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GAMING Video Card ($0.00)
Case: Thermaltake - Core V1 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $807.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 17:18 EDT-0400

(or a lesser SSD if you wanted)
 

Barty1884

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Looks good.

One thing to note.... the MSI board has a lot of static red.... which may conflict a little with your RGB implementation (unless you want static Red, of course).

The Gigabyte Aorus is right at the same pricepoint, with a little more RGB flexibility.... although there is static orange in spots.... which would probably conflict with everything :lol:

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