[SOLVED] Old GPU in new build

[JackieLombardi]

I'm in a bit of a situation and I wanted some knowledgeable opinions about this... I've set out to build a new rig with the following components

i7-12700K
B660-A DDR4
32 GB DDR4 memory
1TB M.2 NVME SSD
RX 6700

My issue is I can no longer afford the RX 6700 GPU for right now, but I want all of the other components, and I have a RX 5500XT to use in the mean time.

I want the I7-2700k because I do a lot of creative work in FL Studio and After effects and I want to experiment with 3D rendering as well. The most graphically intensive game I play is Apex Legends which is also the game I care most about getting good performance on. MAYBE Overwatch 2

My question is: Should I get a cheaper CPU in my situation and try to see if I can fit the graphics card in the the budget? ( $1,000. It would have been at least $1,500 but something came up) If so, what CPU should I go with? If not, am I good to stay with the 5500XT for right now and get the rest of the rig I was planning?

Here is this build on PCPartPicker: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JackieLombardi/saved/#view=2C6R4D

 

[DRagor]

IMO in situation like this it is always best to go for best CPU now and upgrade GPU later when funds are available. Especially if you actually do other things then gaming.

 

[logainofhades]

The 5500xt should still be adequate, for those titles. I would go with getting the better CPU. Your linked build is showing a 12700f.

 

[JackieLombardi]

IMO in situation like this it is always best to go for best CPU now and upgrade GPU later when funds are available. Especially if you actually do other things then gaming.

Thank you for your input!

 

[JackieLombardi]

The 5500xt should still be adequate, for those titles. I would go with getting the better CPU.

This is the response I was looking for, thanks a lot! I stuck the 5500XT in my current built just to test it, and I'm getting performance issues but I think that's just because my current build is on like a H310-m running a i3 8100.

Your linked build is showing a 12700f.

I forgot to update the part list but the correct CPU is in my Amazon cart. >~<

 

[logainofhades]

Yea that i3 is holding you back. 4c/4t gaming is dead, and being on an H310, you have to run slower ram speeds as well.

 

[geofelt]

When building new, I suggest looking at current 13th gen processors.
They do more work per clock and usually represent a better price/performance value.
For example, the I7-12700K performance is similar to the I5-13500 which costs less.

Ignore the i3/i5/i7/i9 designations, they no longer designate how many cores and the presence of hyperthreading.

 

[JackieLombardi]

When building new, I suggest looking at current 13th gen processors.
They do more work per clock and usually represent a better price/performance value.
For example, the I7-12700K performance is similar to the I5-13500 which costs less.

Ignore the i3/i5/i7/i9 designations, they no longer designate how many cores and the presence of hyperthreading.

That's a great suggestion! I found a nice 15-13400 for cheaper than the i7 I was getting...I'm coming from a i3 8100 with rotary HDD (I know, i know) build and using SSD NVMe in this new one for my first time ever, so I feel like this i5 will already blow my current hardware out of the water...My main fear was that the 5500XT GPU would still be too underpowered to make a performance difference in Apex primarily

 

[helper800]

As far as the main components go I would do it like this and I know its a little over, but you can always use existing peripherals and get the new ones later with the new GPU:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($249.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($129.94 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2418-P-MHD 24.0" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Philips SHP9600MB/00 Headset ($63.74 @ Amazon)
Total: $1063.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 13:06 EST-0500

Much better CPU, cooler, SSD, case, monitor, and headphones.

 

[JackieLombardi]

As far as the main components go I would do it like this and I know its a little over, but you can always use existing peripherals and get the new ones later with the new GPU:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($249.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($129.94 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2418-P-MHD 24.0" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Monitor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Philips SHP9600MB/00 Headset ($63.74 @ Amazon)
Total: $1063.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-02-16 13:06 EST-0500

Much better CPU, cooler, SSD, case, monitor, and headphones.

Not really feeling this build at all, i'm gonna stick with my stuff. I do appreciate your input tho

 

[logainofhades]

That's a great suggestion! I found a nice 15-13400 for cheaper than the i7 I was getting...I'm coming from a i3 8100 with rotary HDD (I know, i know) build and using SSD NVMe in this new one for my first time ever, so I feel like this i5 will already blow my current hardware out of the water...My main fear was that the 5500XT GPU would still be too underpowered to make a performance difference in Apex primarily

Those titles tend to be more CPU dependent, so I would expect a sizeable improvement, over that i3 you have now. Your monitor choice isn't very good for FPS games, with its 5ms response time. This isn't much more, and is a better monitor. I run 170hz 1440p Acer Nitro's myself.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zNt9TW/acer-kg241y-sbiip-238-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-umqx1aas01

 

[JackieLombardi]

Those titles tend to be more CPU dependent, so I would expect a sizeable improvement, over that i3 you have now. Your monitor choice isn't very good for FPS games, with its 5ms response time. This isn't much more, and is a better monitor. I run 170hz 1440p Acer Nitro's myself.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zNt9TW/acer-kg241y-sbiip-238-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-umqx1aas01

Added! I didn't even realize that the monitor i was getting had 5 ms...I really apprecate your help <3

While I have you, I managed to find a i5-12400 for even cheaper than the 13400, and I was watching a youtube video that suggested that they have very similar stats...Would you take the 12th gen for it's price point or do you reccomend I go ahead and go with 13th gen?

 

[helper800]

Not really feeling this build at all, i'm gonna stick with my stuff. I do appreciate your input tho

No problem. I noticed your build had a clear aesthetic. I felt compelled to recommend a build that focused more on performance. Even so, your build, as it is, will function well enough.

 

[logainofhades]

Added! I didn't even realize that the monitor i was getting had 5 ms...I really apprecate your help <3

While I have you, I managed to find a i5-12400 for even cheaper than the 13400, and I was watching a youtube video that suggested that they have very similar stats...Would you take the 12th gen for it's price point or do you reccomend I go ahead and go with 13th gen?

For straight up gaming, the 12400 is not much different, than a 13400. The 13400 just multitasks better. Personally, I would step up to the 13500, over getting a 13400. I am not familiar with the software you want to use, for your 3d rendering, but you might want to look and see if Intel's quick sync can be used to do your 3d renders, or if can take advantage of more cores.

 

[helper800]

For straight up gaming, the 12400 is not much different, than a 13400. The 13400 just multitasks better. Personally, I would step up to the 13500, over getting a 13400. I am not familiar with the software you want to use, for your 3d rendering, but you might want to look and see if Intel's quick sync can be used to do your 3d renders.

I have the same sentiment for the 13500.

 

[JackieLombardi]

My budget is squeezed a lot tighter than it's supposed to be so a 13500 is a bit out of the cards for the funds I'll have available at the time of purchase, but I definitely would if I could afford it

 

[helper800]

My budget is squeezed a lot tighter than it's supposed to be so a 13500 is a bit out of the cards for the funds I'll have available at the time of purchase, but I definitely would if I could afford it

Its only 10 more dollars than the 13400 in your parts list though.

 

[JackieLombardi]

Its only 10 more dollars than the 13400 in your parts list though.

I'm gonna need a link to what you're seeing... preferably on Amazon because I like to take advantage of my prime subscription

 

[logainofhades]

Shopping at just one store is a recipe for overspending. You should always shop around. The 13500, on Amazon, is through a 3rd party seller, not Amazon themselves. Newegg has it for $249 free shipping.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mtmmP6/intel-core-i5-13500-25-ghz-14-core-processor-bx8071513500

 

[DRagor]

Well, 13500 is supposed to be only 10$ more then 13400. Obviously, shops can and do price it differently. In any case I would also suggest going with 13500 over 13400.

 

[helper800]

I'm gonna need a link to what you're seeing... preferably on Amazon because I like to take advantage of my prime subscription

Thats because it is not on Amazon, but Newegg.

 

[JackieLombardi]

Admittedly I'm very sleep deprived at the moment and my brain is literally lagging, but I checked out the Newegg link and I'm definitely gonna go with this one...I'm not thrilled about what looks to be longer shipping times but that's definitely a me problem

 

[JackieLombardi]

One more thing (I promise) ignore the chipset it's showing here, I also found a Z690 motherboard that I want on Newegg as well, and PCPartPicker shows this when I add it to my part list, is this something I should be worried about? Does this mean that flashing bios is inevitable? https://ibb.co/NKds4w7

 

[DRagor]

Does this mean that flashing bios is inevitable?

Not necessarily. If the board was manufactured recently it can have newest BIOS. But if you get one which spent months on shop shelves then update will be necessary. That's why aiming for board with flashback is good strategy.

 

[logainofhades]

Safest way to avoid an issue is to get a B760, H770, or Z790 board. I wouldn't buy a 600 series board, unless it had some version of bios flashback, or if I were buying it at say Microcenter and the box shows it supports 13th gen. Alder lake wasn't a high seller, so it is possible some boards are older stock, with an old bios.