OMG OMG OMG 9800GTX SPECS RELEASED

[blashyrkh]

I wish they do release the 9800, as I have an old 9800 pro which with a nice aftermarket cooler I could sell as the next gen 9800 card, hehehe!!!!! oh, yea it will be the agp version for older systems, LOL!!!!!

 

[Ancalagon_uk]

I wish they do release the 9800, as I have an old 9800 pro which with a nice aftermarket cooler I could sell as the next gen 9800 card, hehehe!!!!! oh, yea it will be the agp version for older systems, LOL!!!!!

Sell it on ebay as "High powered 9800 graphics card, supports latest games"

I heard that ATI's new card is going to be:
45nm Process
2 GB GDDr4 memory running at 1.5 GHz
1024 bit memory bandwidth
640 stream processors clocked at 2 GHz
Not windows XP compatible.

Now, I pulled that all out of thin air, which is exactly where I think the 9800 GTX stuff comes from.

Look at it this way - were nVidia needing the best GPU, ignoring cost, that is almost certainly what they would build. Note that it has features that were developed by ATI - the tesselation unit, the audio processor (in fact ATI didnt even make an audio processor, as far as I know hte HD 2900 XT is able to pass audio through HDMI, which is significant, but doesnt qualify as audio processing), and the die for free 4 x AA (besides which, there is no such thing as free, only such thing as negligible performance hit).

I think in a few months time, nvidia will release details of a die shrink and minor upgrade to its 8800 line. Depending on what ATI is doing, they may make additional changes, but I doubt it. Why would they?

 

[mactronix]

The reason for releasing this card (big if they have it though)would be the simple premise that if you stand still in any business you will get crushed as the competition charges past you.
Did Ferrari say oh sod it lets not test and research and try to improve the car back when they were so dominant in F1? No they didn't and neither will any other company worth its salt.
Mactronix

 

[killerb255]

Can one miss something for which one was not looking?

In a way, yes.

When giving information and attempting to pass it along as fact, there is usually an assumption that the person passing along the info has done the appropriate research to back up their "facts."

Granted assumptions often lead to mistakes, stating that "there are no DX10 games out right now" as if it were fact, being proven wrong by someone falsifying your information by simply pointing out a DX10 game, and stating that you "weren't looking" (hence not doing your research) is, whether you like it or not, a blow to your credibility.

If you're not sure of something, just add in "I don't think," "I think," or "in my opinion." In this case, the following would have slid:

"I don't think there are any DX10 games out right now."
"There aren't any DX10 games out that I deem worth playing."
"I don't play any FPSes because I did the real thing (look at my avatar for why), but from what I know so far, there aren't any DX10 games out now."

Granted these are all still falsifiable, you'll look less like a fool saying these than what you had first stated.

 

[mactronix]

Are there any actuall 100% dx10 games out at the min then?
Mactronix

 

[andybird123]

"According to Nvidia's Michael Hara, Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications, the new chip will be ready at Christmas. This is actually going to be Nvidia's new launch plan after its wonderful success with the G80 - the high-end parts will be released shortly before the Holidays, and then the mid- to low-range parts will start filtering out in the spring. This gives the high-end early adopters a bit of extra time to cradle their expensive toys."

VR-Zone also quite a "recent nvidia news conference" as suggesting the new high end part will be out before christmas.

However I'll believe it when I see it on nvidia's site, not anyone else's.

 

[ethel]

OH NO...... OH NO!!!!!!
I just had an accident in my pants!

If this is true....

😀


Tho i would have expected NV to milk the 8-series 'brand name' a little more before moving onto the 9's... u know... since this 8's are a pretty popular and well respected card.

So what comes after 9... 10? 1098?
I chopped a 1098 the other day 😛

 

[rodney_ws]

I'm always amused at how excited people can get over computer hardware.

 

[paq7512]

I am pretty sure they would not call it a 9800.........remember the ATI 9800 Pro......?

HAHA. This is what I have been saying since people have been talking about this.

 

[rodney_ws]

HAHA. This is what I have been saying since people have been talking about this.

Imagine some kid putting a 9800 GTX on his Christmas wish-list... and dad stumbles across a 9800 Pro on eBay for a good price... just the thought of that happening puts a smile on my face.

 

[NewbieTechGodII]

In a way, yes.

When giving information and attempting to pass it along as fact, there is usually an assumption that the person passing along the info has done the appropriate research to back up their "facts."

Granted assumptions often lead to mistakes, stating that "there are no DX10 games out right now" as if it were fact, being proven wrong by someone falsifying your information by simply pointing out a DX10 game, and stating that you "weren't looking" (hence not doing your research) is, whether you like it or not, a blow to your credibility.

If you're not sure of something, just add in "I don't think," "I think," or "in my opinion." In this case, the following would have slid:

"I don't think there are any DX10 games out right now."
"There aren't any DX10 games out that I deem worth playing."
"I don't play any FPSes because I did the real thing (look at my avatar for why), but from what I know so far, there aren't any DX10 games out now."

Granted these are all still falsifiable, you'll look less like a fool saying these than what you had first stated.

Moron, DX10 isn't even out so how can you say the games are DX10? And the DX10 we all thought was coming is now going to be neutered. Is DX10 even on Vista? I dunno. Just go back to your hole.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

I am pretty sure they would not call it a 9800.........remember the ATI 9800 Pro......?

HAHA. This is what I have been saying since people have been talking about this.

Funny thing is it didn't stop them from making the Geforce 8500 because of the Radeon 8500, or the Geforce 8800 because of the FireGL 8800.

 

[NewbieTechGodII]

Are there any actuall 100% dx10 games out at the min then?
Mactronix

I can't say for sure, but there are DX10 games in development and so far, the benchies (either from THG or Anandtech) don't bode well (vs DX9)

 

[kaotao]

It's still only a stupid rumor and nothing more.

Logically however it also makes no sense.

Thus I deem it- bullshit.

Everything that comes out of your mouth is BS.

 

[Anoobis]

What amazes me is that it took almost 30 posts before anybody even bothered to check the "source" and debunk this filth.

 

[enewmen]

TGGA:

These specs looks like the g100 you described earier as the real 'Next Gen architecture' - when the g90 is just a refresh.
True?

 

[enewmen]

I can't say for sur, but there are DX10 games in development and so far, the benchies (either from THG or Anandtech) don't bode well (vs DX9)

I don't know of ANY native DX10 games available now.
If there was a native DX10 game that uses DX10.1 Tessellation, I expect even the HD 2600 XT will crush the larger 8800 GTX with Tessellation enabled.
From what little I know, even Crysis will not use Tessellation.
So we need to wait a LONG time.

 

[eric54]

Got my wallet ready and everything only to have my dreams dashed by ape and strange...I know you two are right, but ugh sigh...

 

[jeb1517]

sooo......8700??

 

[DeAtHrApToR]

Moron, DX10 isn't even out so how can you say the games are DX10? And the DX10 we all thought was coming is now going to be neutered. Is DX10 even on Vista? I dunno. Just go back to your hole.

Hmmm, then Dxdiag must be lying to me because I'd swear it tells me the DX version is 10.

 

[bfellow]

Thats a laugh.

The 8800 GTX still costs 600$ and since it has no reason to go down in price, there is NO way nVidia is going to release an 9800 GTX and there is NO reason they will price it below twice the cost of the 8800 GTX.

It's just simple market strategy based upon logic and history.

Actually the 8800 GTX is around $480 which is about 25% less than when it was first launched. I would say the 8800s would drop in price by another $100 by then.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

TGGA:
These specs looks like the g100 you described earier as the real 'Next Gen architecture' - when the g90 is just a refresh.
True?

Nah, it seems like a terrible mash-up of things, some of which sound good on paper but don't sound like the G90, and others that seem impracticle (eDRAM), that just make no sense (GPGPU native? As if it were an defined spec on hardware, and not a function of how you calculate using software interaction with the GPU?).

Also would they need/want to improve AF beyond what it already is? AA maybe, but AF, seems to be no need, except how it's handled, not the final output.

And it doesn't look like what I'd expect for the G100, which I would expect to look more modular like the expected R700 design.

There's just so many things in the original post's spec that look like unfinished thought bubbles in a wish list.

 

[ethel]

lol

 

[Hatman]

Im not sure if you class Fudzilla as "credible" but its on there..

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2154&Itemid=1

Sounds intersting.

 

[desidude006]

humm do i smell a price cut.