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To answer your question: NO. You can't legally install Mac OS X on a homebuilt PC.

I'm not sure if there are any websites that have done this but I highly doubt it. Apple makes most of thier cash by selling hardware and software as a single unit.

ps. To everyone before me who has 'bashed' apples tech support....have you ever called a MS tech support rep? or Dell? or HP? Thier just as bad if not worse.

And one last thing. If you ret*rds ever did anything besides play video games on your computers you would know that Macs have certain asthetics that pcs can only dream of touching. Half of my office is Mac and the other half is pc. Not because we want it this way but because mac's serve as the workhorses behind most of our projects. Professionals choose Macs, Consumers choose PC's, and Nerds should learn to use both.
 
I only brought up price because someone else did. Anyhow, you can install OSX legally on a PC system if you buy it yourself. Here is a link to the OSX x86 Project.

http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

And yes, Halo IS on Mac through Macsoft and Universal.

http://www.apple.com/games/articles/2003/11/halo/ (for the halo response.)

Here are more Mac games to surprise you a little. (They offer great games like this CROSS platformed.)


http://www.apple.com/games/articles/
 
I guess the only thing we need is for good games to come out on the mac. Course i do like battle field 2 but its not the adicting game i thought it would be. When it comes to garbage like halo i cant really stand deathmatch mindless killing games much.

@comp98

Dont worry i find every company on the face of this earth utterly usless when it comes to techsupport.
 
Yet another useless thread filled with the sort of venom usually associated with fanboyism. Admit it: anti-Apple zealots are nothing more than a useless bunch of PC fanboys. Thank God the markets don't respond to their silliness. Don't even bother with them duece1981. There's no way of reasoning with fanatics.
 
I've called Apple tech support, Dell, HP and MS. Here's what my experience has been:

Dell
They used to be great. However, I was pretty unimpressed when I called recently to get information on a PSU and they referred me to a specification document that pretty much said "350w PSU". I was like "can I upgrade it?" and the support tech said "nah, I don't think so".

HP
I haven't had the greatest luck with HP support. I used to support Compaq workstations, and their support line was great (e.g. I used to call up and say "I have a faulty motherboard" and they would ship a new motherboard). With HP, I have contacted them after experiencing an issue where I found a tech support article saying "if you see this, call this number". And guess what? After giving them the article number and everything they STILL couldn't help me. Pretty unsatisfying.

Apple
I have had horrible luck with Apple support. The last time I dealt with them was in the G5 workstation days, and I had a G5 that was giving me a bunch of "kernel panics" (OS crashed all the time). I called them and they said "reinstall OS X". I told them that I already tried that, and they pretty much told me to do it again. I never got them to help me and I just swapped that G5 workstation out with a new one (not very cost-effective, but what can you do with proprietary hardware when the vendor won't help you?).

Recently, a friend of mine had his MacBook HDD go bad. He called tech support because it was under warranty, but they won't replace it because his laptop has a scratch on it.

It seems like every time I try to call Apple tech support they just say "too bad", flip me the bird, and go on with their day.

Microsoft
You know, I may be lucky, but I've always had MS resolve my issues when I call them. I'm not a MS fanboy (in fact I'm thinking about moving towards Linux due to some things about Vista that are pissing me off), but I have to say that attacking their tech support is unwarranted and downright ignorant.

I've dealt with some pretty obscure issues with Microsoft (e.g. hard-to-track mail routing issues on exchange servers, networking issues, DNS issues, etc.) and some of the support technicians they have working there are major badasses. That doesn't mean I love Microsoft and I want to buy every product they sell, but they do have good tech support.
 
Recently, a friend of mine had his MacBook HDD go bad. He called tech support because it was under warranty, but they won't replace it because his laptop has a scratch on it.
I find that difficult to believe. Did he demand a brand new laptop? Did he pursue it further or was that the end of it? Was he forced to buy another HDD?
 
Dont worry i find every company on the face of this earth utterly usless when it comes to techsupport.
True enough. Any time I call any tech support and I actually get the problem taken care of in a timely manner I'm kind of shocked 😀.
 
Recently, a friend of mine had his MacBook HDD go bad. He called tech support because it was under warranty, but they won't replace it because his laptop has a scratch on it.
I find that difficult to believe. Did he demand a brand new laptop?
Well, it's true so I don't understand where the difficulty comes from. This is actually recently and he wants me to help him with it. All he wants is a new HDD, not a new laptop.

I was planning on just calling tech support on his behalf and trying again. My thought was that I would have better luck than him because he's not incredibly technical.
 
Was he forced to buy another HDD?
He only asked me what to do about this like a week and a half ago, so I don't think he has done anything yet.
If I were he I'd be screaming bloody hell. Tell him to try e-mail support. The one time I had an issue with my iPod they replied promptly and solved my problem immediately. Does he live close to an Apple store? Maybe they'll be more responsive. But he shouldn't have to do that.
 
Well, it's true so I don't understand where the difficulty comes from. This is actually recently and he wants me to help him with it. All he wants is a new HDD, not a new laptop.
Forgive my skepticism but how would Apple tech support know about the scratch on his MacBook?
 
Well, it's true so I don't understand where the difficulty comes from. This is actually recently and he wants me to help him with it. All he wants is a new HDD, not a new laptop.
Forgive my skepticism but how would Apple tech support know about the scratch on his MacBook?
I'm assuming he told them, tried sending it back, etc. I didn't actually ask. (pretty valid point tho)
 
Was he forced to buy another HDD?
He only asked me what to do about this like a week and a half ago, so I don't think he has done anything yet.
If I were he I'd be screaming bloody hell. Tell him to try e-mail support. The one time I had an issue with my iPod they replied promptly and solved my problem immediately. Does he live close to an Apple store? Maybe they'll be more responsive. But he shouldn't have to do that.

The fact you would even have to do that only proves my point. Support is usless.
 
Why is it when I want to know about BENCHMARK numbers people start bringing up price and TECH SUPPORT from other companies? Some of the computers I have seen benchmarked on this site have run as high as $10,000! So price should have no impact whatsoever here. I always thought that this site was intended to compare hardware and see which actually runs better. I know that I said HARDWARE, but I have also seen software reviewed here as well.

Please, for the sake of this thread, lets make valid arguments about the possibility of benchmarking OS X based systems here without bringing in tech support, price of systems, whatever. They have nothing to do with the discussion. (BTW, Windows got so successful initially by word of mouth.)
 
That would be interesting... I myself and working on a hackintosh... a cheap one... a hack nonetheless. My friend has one and it runs just like a regular Mac, only with better hardware.
 
Meh, what benchmarks can you really run on Mac's? PCMark? 3DMark? SiSoft Sandra? Only thing I've seen Mac's benched on is the SPEC tests, and that's mainly CPU anyways. Then again, we are here testing hardware, so why does it matter if it's an apple or a PC. Intel is Intel, AMD is AMD. If a C2D is faster on an Intel, why shouldn't it be faster on a Mac? I think you're just trying to stick Mac in everywhere in order to expand it's religious teachings and beliefs, reminds me of the crusades...

And games take a while before they get made for Mac, which means, by that time, the games themselves won't be used for gaming tests either.

And Anti-Apple fanboys are only there because there are Apple fanboys... just like Atheists are around because there are Christians... If Apple doesn't spout elitism with their arrogant commercials and general righteousness, then perhaps I might like the company and actually respect it...
 
If you read my posts, that is exactly what I have been doing. I have put up reasons why I disagree with your point, and so have others, but you just keep repeating the same point.
 
Word. I couldn't have said it any better myself. I just wish people would realize that it's USER-PREFERENCE whether you get a mac or a PC. Jeez... I need some more anime... Bleach... here I come with more FILLERS!
 
home made Mac's
oxymoron?

also i kinda think that security on windows really isnt as bad as it is played out to be. all i have is a free firewall i found (none of that windows firewall junk). i rarely find any sort of viruses. and if macs had any reasonable marketshare they would have just as many viruses.
 
Homemade Macs is not an oxymoron. Now that OS X can run on x86 architecture it is very possible, and has been done on many occasions. (Refer to previous posts for websites that show this being done.)

Now onto security. There have been viruses written for Mac, I will give it that. Specifically designed to run on OS X, but they are designed to run on Windows based software, like Enourage and Word. (Office files.) Also, you never hear of people running Macs around their office that protect critical files having hacking problems to access that info.

Anyhow, I was a PC fan myself, remember that. However, I have only one piece of security software on my mac, and that is Norton Antivirus. (Better safe than sorry, years of Windows use has made me paranoid.)
 
Hackintoshes. I love them... still trying to make one though... money is tight and this new rig is making me go broke.

I'm thinking about getting a mac (hack) server for all my critical data.
 
Actually, there was atleast one exploit that would allow a local attacker to gain full access to a MAC OS X system access to a MAC. It has been fixed, but, since he OS change, more viruses will pop up, if people care to write them. If those people writing the bugs care to take the time, IE. deem it as being profitable, the viruses will appear.... otherwise, they won't. It isn't because they can't write them, it is because they choose not to. Thoughts? Agree disagree?

wes
 

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