Online Black Friday Deals

[The Real Ket]

Do you guys know if Amazon and Newegg have any good Black Friday deals? I'm looking forward to finally put together my first build, but I'm on a budget. I want a pc around $500 but I used pc parts picker and I got out to about $600. BTW anybody have any suggestions? Tell me How much better the first one is than the second.
$604 http://pcpartpicker.com/user/The_Real_Ket/saved/7z4qsY
$523 http://pcpartpicker.com/user/The_Real_Ket/saved/ctP6hM

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Don't go AMD , stick to the intel i5.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($44.18 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)
Other: Hitachi Ultrastar A7K3000 2TB HUA723020ALA641 (0F12470) 2TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Enterprise 3.5-Inch Hard Drive ($46.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $622.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-28 11:22 EDT-0400

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Even the i3 is a better choice than the AMD build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($44.18 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card ($184.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)
Other: Hitachi Ultrastar A7K3000 2TB HUA723020ALA641 (0F12470) 2TB 64MB Cache 7200RPM SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Enterprise 3.5-Inch Hard Drive ($46.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $558.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-28 11:25 EDT-0400

 

[The Real Ket]

Well I want to be able to game and record at 60fps or higher. Can an i3 handle it?

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

I would go with the i5 setup , IT'S WORTH IT.

 

[The Real Ket]

That's what I assumed. Now do you have any idea of how much this build would cost with black friday deals?

 

[g-unit1111]

The thing you have to be aware of with Black Friday is that I tell people this all the time - the big ticket items, the things that are always in demand - CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, high end PSUs, and cases, are things that never get discounted. What gets discounted heavily on Black Friday is the high volume, low yield junk that the stores can't move the rest of the year. So what they buy in bulk, like say cheap poor quality 850W PSUs, will get discounted to $10. But that is not something you want powering your system. They do this to get people in the door so they can charge full price on the stuff they do want. It's actually a very evil marketing tactic if you ask me.

 

[boosted1g]

Agreed, unless AMD has Zen released by then and there has already been benchmarks made then I would not buy AMD.

Yes AMD is certainly cheaper, but at this point you are buying into platforms that can not even beat out a core i3 in gaming.

 

[The Real Ket]

The thing you have to be aware of with Black Friday is that I tell people this all the time - the big ticket items, the things that are always in demand - CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, high end PSUs, and cases, are things that never get discounted. What gets discounted heavily on Black Friday is the high volume, low yield junk that the stores can't move the rest of the year. So what they buy in bulk, like say cheap poor quality 850W PSUs, will get discounted to $10. But that is not something you want powering your system. They do this to get people in the door so they can charge full price on the stuff they do want. It's actually a very evil marketing tactic if you ask me.

That Sucks

 

[g-unit1111]

That Sucks

Yeah it does but that's the thing they don't tell you about Black Friday. Best Buy will advertise a 55" 1080P TV for $200 but it's usually some cheaply manufactured off brand Chinese manufacturer that will probably break or get a dead pixel in a few months. If you want a 4K 65" Samsung TV, forget about it. They'll have laptops for $150, but it will usually be some end of the line Acer model that's obsolete out of the box. Surface Books? No way will those get discounted.

 

[geofelt]

FX-4100 is a poor gamer, very slow cores.

$125 I3-6100 is a cheaper and generally more competent gamer than the I5-6400.
Read this review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10543/the-skylake-core-i3-51w-cpu-review-i3-6320-6300-6100-tested
No real difference using a cheaper H100 based motherboard.

Always buy a 2 stick ram kit. 2133 speed is equally good.

That evga unit is not one of their best.
Do not go cheap on a psu.
Try to buy tier 1 or 2 from a list such as this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
Seasonic is always good.

I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.

On the graphics card, pricing on the RX cards is expected to drop in response to the GTX1050 and GTX1050ti announcements.
I suspect one of those would be an appropriate card

 

[The Real Ket]

FX-4100 is a poor gamer, very slow cores.

$125 I3-6100 is a cheaper and generally more competent gamer than the I5-6400.
Read this review:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10543/the-skylake-core-i3-51w-cpu-review-i3-6320-6300-6100-tested
No real difference using a cheaper H100 based motherboard.

Always buy a 2 stick ram kit. 2133 speed is equally good.

That evga unit is not one of their best.
Do not go cheap on a psu.
Try to buy tier 1 or 2 from a list such as this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
Seasonic is always good.

I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, or 500gb you may never need a hard drive.

I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice for performance and reliability.

On the graphics card, pricing on the RX cards is expected to drop in response to the GTX1050 and GTX1050ti announcements.
I suspect one of those would be an appropriate card

First of all, this will be my first build and i'm on a budget. Second of all I'm looking to record, play games and upload them at 60fps; so wouldn't an i5 be alot better than an i3. About the SSD I'm looking to have a good amount of storage, and SSD's cost like $100 just for 250gb and like $680 for 2tb the amount of storage that I can get out of an HHD for about $50. PSU wise, are there any in particular that you'd suggest to me?

 

[geofelt]

240gb SSD is about right for windows and apps.
A 1-2tb hard drive is the appropriate place to keep large sequential files such as videos.

On a psu, Seasonic of whatever size will be good. I don't think they make anything bad these days.

As to I3 vs. I5 it will depend on your games and how well you can keep all 4 threads fully utilized.

I like $125 I3-6100 as a budget gamer. It has a passmark rating of 5500 and a single thread rating of 2102.
The $175 I5-6400 has a higher total rating of 6548, but a lower single thread rating of 1826.

To meet your targets, you may well want a @ $235 I5-6600K rating is 7791/2126. But you can expect a overclock to up that by 35%., but that is well outside of your budget.