Question Opinion on my first build

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Please give me your opinions/advice on this build. Its my first build and the more I read, the more confusing it becomes. So I've stopped at this point. The form factor is mATX. Not sure what PSU I need. Suggestions? Budget not an issue but no point in throwing money away.

Here is what I want ( in order of importance )
  1. Multi monitor support ( 2 will be fine )
  2. NVME drive
  3. 32GB Ram
  4. Fast as possible wifi adapter.
  5. On board graphics
  6. Quiet as possible
CPUAMD Ryzen 5 3400G 4.2GHz with Radeon Vega 11 Graphics
MotherboardMSI B450M GAMING PLUS Socket AM4/B450/DDR4/S-ATA 600/Micro ATX Motherboard
RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200Mhz DDR4 RAM
StorageSabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-1TB)
CaseCorsair CC-9011134-WW 280X Crystal Tempered Glass Micro ATX PC Case - Black
KeyboardLogitech G513 RGB Backlit Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Romer-G Tactile Key Switches (UK Layout) - Carbon

Help me before I click that buy button 🆒

Thanks
 
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Hey there,

The build is a little imbalanced, if you don't mind me saying.

So first question is, what are your expected uses. Why 32gbs ram?

Here's a suggested build based on your parts listed:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($96.05 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($157.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Crystal 280X MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Corsair)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($56.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon Wired Gaming Keyboard ($128.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $894.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 10:53 EDT-0400


But I'd consider changing some stuff, depending on what you want the PC to do.
 
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Hey there,

The build is a little imbalanced, if you don't mind me saying.

So first question is, what are your expected uses. Why 32gbs ram?

Here's a suggested build based on your parts listed:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($96.05 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($157.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Crystal 280X MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ Corsair)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($56.89 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon Wired Gaming Keyboard ($128.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $894.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 10:53 EDT-0400


But I'd consider changing some stuff, depending on what you want the PC to do.
Mostly for development and some light gaming. Visual Studio loves
ram.
 
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If you’re coding wouldn’t a Mac be better? Especially with the new Mac Pro’s coming soon.
I want something that I can upgrade = so a mac is not an option from that point of view - and I refuse to pay hundreds extra just to have a picture of an apple. I know their quality is good but I'm a windows dev and I would have to create a dual boot blah blah....
 

LordVile

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I want something that I can upgrade = so a mac is not an option from that point of view - and I refuse to pay hundreds extra just to have a picture of an apple. I know their quality is good but I'm a windows dev and I would have to create a dual boot blah blah....
Why I suggested the Pro which you can upgrade everything in :) and the pricing of macs are actually pretty much the same as off the shelf components of you buy the exact same.

would get a better CPU than the 3400g. Maybe a 3800X and a cheap GPU like a 1050
 
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor | $128.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | ARCTIC Freezer 33 CPU Cooler | $29.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $96.05 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory | $157.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Low Profile Video Card | $84.49 @ Amazon
Case | Corsair Crystal 280X MicroATX Mid Tower Case | $129.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $89.89 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Asus PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter | $56.89 @ OutletPC
Keyboard | Logitech G513 Carbon Wired Gaming Keyboard | $128.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1008.16
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| Total | $998.16
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 12:01 EDT-0400 |
 

Karadjgne

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3400g is basically a 2400g with some tweaks. Not much of an advantage for the price. £ for £, a 3600 blows it out of the water in every department except graphics.

The question becomes what's more important to you. The initial outlay being cheaper, or the time lost over the forseable usable life of the pc. Having a large file compile in 10 minutes is considerably different than the same file taking 30 minutes. Picture files loading in 1-2 seconds vrs 10-12 seconds a hundred times a day. Etc etc.

With today's demands and abilities of pc's, Tv's, cellphones etc coding and visuality is only getting larger and more complex, demanding speed to deal with.

32Gb won't help much when limited by the 3400g, 16Gb would be fine, 3600MHz would be better than 3200 since it'll scale better with the igpu needs.
 
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Karadjgne

Titan
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£317.58 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.59 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£79.83 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (£229.19 @ Alza)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£97.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.48 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card (£270.43 @ Box Limited)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£73.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1301.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 17:16 BST+0100
 
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£317.58 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.59 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£79.83 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (£229.19 @ Alza)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£97.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£101.48 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card (£270.43 @ Box Limited)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£73.98 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1301.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 17:16 BST+0100
OK- wow this looks heavy duty
 
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Why I suggested the Pro which you can upgrade everything in :) and the pricing of macs are actually pretty much the same as off the shelf components of you buy the exact same.

would get a better CPU than the 3400g. Maybe a 3800X and a cheap GPU like a 1050
Yea - this is a possibility - let me dig into the 3800x and have a look see
 
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3400g is basically a 2400g with some tweaks. Not much of an advantage for the price. £ for £, a 3600 blows it out of the water in every department except graphics.

The question becomes what's more important to you. The initial outlay being cheaper, or the time lost over the forseable usable life of the pc. Having a large file compile in 10 minutes is considerably different than the same file taking 30 minutes. Picture files loading in 1-2 seconds vrs 10-12 seconds a hundred times a day. Etc etc.

With today's demands and abilities of pc's, Tv's, cellphones etc coding and visuality is only getting larger and more complex, demanding speed to deal with.

32Gb won't help much when limited by the 3400g, 16Gb would be fine, 3600MHz would be better than 3200 since it'll scale better with the igpu needs.
Why would the usage of RAM be limited by the motherboard?
 
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ah! a fellow visual studio programmer!
Good build, but 32 GB is very excessive, even for visual studio. I get by fine with 12gb
Have 32Gb on my work machine - open 4 instances of VS and a couple of instances of VSCode and then you will see what 32Gb gives you
 
What is your budget?
What apps are you going to use.
Forums for those apps will suggest good build specs.

In your parts list, I would avoid off brand ssd devices.
The best nvme pcie devices today are likely to be the Samsung 970 m.2 pcie devices.

While ryzen is favored by most on this forum, I happen to like Intel 9th gen K processors for the better single thread performance.
 
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What is your budget?
What apps are you going to use.
Forums for those apps will suggest good build specs.

In your parts list, I would avoid off brand ssd devices.
The best nvme pcie devices today are likely to be the Samsung 970 m.2 pcie devices.

While ryzen is favored by most on this forum, I happen to like Intel 9th gen K processors for the better single thread performance.
No budget - apps are visual studio, node, visual studio code, and 2 or 3 web servers running simultaneously and multiple development database servers. The samsung ssd looks good.
 
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3400g is basically a 2400g with some tweaks. Not much of an advantage for the price. £ for £, a 3600 blows it out of the water in every department except graphics.

The question becomes what's more important to you. The initial outlay being cheaper, or the time lost over the forseable usable life of the pc. Having a large file compile in 10 minutes is considerably different than the same file taking 30 minutes. Picture files loading in 1-2 seconds vrs 10-12 seconds a hundred times a day. Etc etc.

With today's demands and abilities of pc's, Tv's, cellphones etc coding and visuality is only getting larger and more complex, demanding speed to deal with.

32Gb won't help much when limited by the 3400g, 16Gb would be fine, 3600MHz would be better than 3200 since it'll scale better with the igpu needs.
Thanks for the advice - I dug into the test results and your are correct - the 3400g is very middle of the road compared with the 3600. Think I have my CPU now
 

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