My friend bought the iPad 1 and loved it so much that he gave it to his mom so that he could buy the iPad 2 when it came out. (he is a doctor with money to burn). I don't have money to burn so I bought a Nook Color. When I ask him how he uses his iPad2 he says: kindle books, surfing the web, watching Netflix. What do I do with my Nook Color? Read B&N books, surf the web, watch movies I burned with HandBrake. We both do the same thing. He would never trade his iPad2 for a Nook color b/c he is in love with it. I would never trade my Nook Color for his iPad2 b/c he doesn't have Flash and it's too big and heavy to read books with one hand. But guess what - we are both happy with what we bought. Imagine that; two different products and they both serve their target market just fine. Glad we have choice. Please quit bashing each product for not being some other product. There are hundreds of millions of people in the world. I think have a couple different tablets will work out just fine.
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JOKE:
What would Wolfgang say to Jobs if he were alive right now?
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Come on baby light my Fire!
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What would Wolfgang say to Jobs if he were alive right now?
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Come on baby light my Fire!
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Gruener is not the first to compare the Fire to the iPad. There was a story on NPR this morning comparing it to the iPad.
I think many will consider it as a replacement for the much more expensive iPad.
I think many will consider it as a replacement for the much more expensive iPad.
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The Nook Tablet seems like a better value proposition, even if it won't have the Amazon ecosystem or the same popularity. You get twice the RAM and twice the storage capacity for only $50 more.
Why is that important? Because the extra RAM will eliminate the unresponsiveness reviewers have found on the Fire and the storage capacity will allow you to store a lot more content. It seems Amazon forgot that there's not Wi-Fi everywhere and so they gimped the storage capacity while forgetting that these are supposed to be content CONSUMPTION devices.
For others Amazon Prime will seal the deal.
Why is that important? Because the extra RAM will eliminate the unresponsiveness reviewers have found on the Fire and the storage capacity will allow you to store a lot more content. It seems Amazon forgot that there's not Wi-Fi everywhere and so they gimped the storage capacity while forgetting that these are supposed to be content CONSUMPTION devices.
For others Amazon Prime will seal the deal.
I wish people writing reviews knew the difference between memory and storage. I guess we have dumbed down so much that we just call it the same thing now. The Kindle Fire has 512MB of MEMORY and 8GB of STORAGE.
[citation][nom]house70[/nom]That's the bottom line. Gruener manages to throw a useless ipad comparison in there, like this tablet was ever meant to be an ipad replacement. Typical fanboi.Even so, Amazon offers their content on the Fire for less than half of the price of an ipad 1, which had the same goal with Apple content. That is impressive feat for Amazon. Next gen tablet will have more and more of what other consumers will want in it.[/citation]
It seems strange to me that when Gruener says that;
the Fire and the iPad are two different tablets with two different purposes.
Then you say that you completely disagree and that;
the Fire and the iPad are two different tablets with two different purposes.
It seems strange to me that when Gruener says that;
the Fire and the iPad are two different tablets with two different purposes.
Then you say that you completely disagree and that;
the Fire and the iPad are two different tablets with two different purposes.
The deal I got on my Touchpad just keeps getting better and better! 150$ for near iPad 2 specs with a very usable Gingerbread alpha already available and ICS in development now that the source just dropped. In a few weeks I'll likely have a fully capable ICS tablet. Like others have said though, (if I didnt have this) I would spend the extra 100 on a Thrive or something similar before dropping 200 on basically a mobile front-end for Amazon's website...
The best deal I have ever gotten was not anything local. I purchased the Novo7 Advanced for a measly 140 dollars. For 140 dollars I got a capacitive 7" 5 point touch screen tablet with 512mb ram, 8GB storage, 1Ghz cortex A8 with Mali400 GPU. WIFI, 2 cameras microsd card micro usb micro hdmi and earphone jack. Comes with android 2.3 and is a joy to use. If anyone can beat those specs for that price please let me know!
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[citation][nom]Monkeysweat[/nom]where the hell do you live? 200 bux gets me 2 and a half tanks of gas (2 1/2 weeks of transportation) and maybe 8 meals at McDonald's,, wouldn't call em dinners,, I don't know anywhere I can fly from here for under 200,, and that would be 1-way,, PS I live in Winnipeg[/citation]
you spend $25 per meal at mcdonalds? dude, you need to lay off that stuff and start eating some vegetables.
you spend $25 per meal at mcdonalds? dude, you need to lay off that stuff and start eating some vegetables.
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Let's not call the Fire a tablet, call it what it really is, a colour Kindle
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There is a clear market for the Kindle so a buyer for a Fire is only expecting the incremental upgrade, they are not expecting an iPad
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There is a clear market for the Kindle so a buyer for a Fire is only expecting the incremental upgrade, they are not expecting an iPad
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So, there are a few thoughts about the "Fire vs iPad/Galaxy Tab" thing. All of these will be related to the costs of the devices, as I feel this is the majority of the Kindle Fire's draw.
First, many people aren't even sure yet if they WANT a tablet device, or how it will fit into their lives. For these people, a capital outlay of $500 is far too steep an entry point to risk on a device they may not fully utilize. (despite the resale value allowing a reclamation of most of this money) $200 is a much more attractive entry point - plus, Amazon strikes me as a good company offering services I want.
Second, for people with young children (as I have), $500 is a lot of money to risk losing if your toddler or kindergartner gets hold of it and decides to see how well a tablet flies down the stairs with Han and Chewie glued to the screen. $200 is a little easier to get over. In fact, for $200 I'm tempted to actually buy the device FOR them with a rugged case, if there exist sufficient parental controls.
Finally, I don't believe that households in the future are going to just have one or two 'tablets'. There will be tablets all over the place (in a manner of speaking)! These will be ultra-thin, possibly flexible tablets for special purposes like home integration (such as a home automation control panel).
About 5 years ago, I built a nano-ITX computer with wireless, hooked it up to a touchscreen monitor and integrated it into my kitchen for the express purpose of browsing recipes without having to print them out. The motherboard alone cost over half of what the Kindle Fire costs - never mind the $500 15" capacitive flat-screen monitor! If I could have embedded a small, cheap tablet into my cabinets for this purpose, I'd have been all over it! (...and will be - mark my words) Being a nerd who likes to cook, this was - of course - something of a proof of concept with the tech available at the time.
Thing is, if we really move toward pervasive computing in the household, it's not going to be a bunch of $500 tablets all over the place, it'll be droves of cheap, networked thin-client special-purpose tablet derivatives.
Digital picture frames? Forget about 'em! Just buy cheap, networked, centrally controllable thin-client monitor things.
So uh...yeah. [/tangent]
First, many people aren't even sure yet if they WANT a tablet device, or how it will fit into their lives. For these people, a capital outlay of $500 is far too steep an entry point to risk on a device they may not fully utilize. (despite the resale value allowing a reclamation of most of this money) $200 is a much more attractive entry point - plus, Amazon strikes me as a good company offering services I want.
Second, for people with young children (as I have), $500 is a lot of money to risk losing if your toddler or kindergartner gets hold of it and decides to see how well a tablet flies down the stairs with Han and Chewie glued to the screen. $200 is a little easier to get over. In fact, for $200 I'm tempted to actually buy the device FOR them with a rugged case, if there exist sufficient parental controls.
Finally, I don't believe that households in the future are going to just have one or two 'tablets'. There will be tablets all over the place (in a manner of speaking)! These will be ultra-thin, possibly flexible tablets for special purposes like home integration (such as a home automation control panel).
About 5 years ago, I built a nano-ITX computer with wireless, hooked it up to a touchscreen monitor and integrated it into my kitchen for the express purpose of browsing recipes without having to print them out. The motherboard alone cost over half of what the Kindle Fire costs - never mind the $500 15" capacitive flat-screen monitor! If I could have embedded a small, cheap tablet into my cabinets for this purpose, I'd have been all over it! (...and will be - mark my words) Being a nerd who likes to cook, this was - of course - something of a proof of concept with the tech available at the time.
Thing is, if we really move toward pervasive computing in the household, it's not going to be a bunch of $500 tablets all over the place, it'll be droves of cheap, networked thin-client special-purpose tablet derivatives.
Digital picture frames? Forget about 'em! Just buy cheap, networked, centrally controllable thin-client monitor things.
So uh...yeah. [/tangent]
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[citation][nom]greatsaltedone[/nom]you spend $25 per meal at mcdonalds? dude, you need to lay off that stuff and start eating some vegetables.[/citation]
When the wife and kids are out of town with a pre-defined bankroll (or are being fed by the in-laws), I'm freakin' AMAZED how little money I spend on food, even if I eat fast food more frequently. Feeding yourself, a spouse and a couple of kids is sneakily expensive. $25 is easy if the parents each get a meal @$7, plus two kids meals @$4 each. Plus tax.
When the wife and kids are out of town with a pre-defined bankroll (or are being fed by the in-laws), I'm freakin' AMAZED how little money I spend on food, even if I eat fast food more frequently. Feeding yourself, a spouse and a couple of kids is sneakily expensive. $25 is easy if the parents each get a meal @$7, plus two kids meals @$4 each. Plus tax.
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I got an Iconia A500 just a couple of days ago for $300 including an additional 16Gb SD for it. This device is just so much better than the Fire seems to be. It can pretty much do everything the Fire (and iPad) can, and a WHOLE lot more besides as well as having an arguably better screen (with 4 more inches) and better conectivity via regular and micro USB ports and the SD card reader.
The fire still looks nice and will fit many people's usage perfectly, but it really can't hold a candle to a 'real' tablet, and nor is it trying to.
The fire still looks nice and will fit many people's usage perfectly, but it really can't hold a candle to a 'real' tablet, and nor is it trying to.
Just wondering if anyone ever heard of the Vizio Tablet. At 189 in costco you get a great screen, 1024X768, bluetooth, GPS, 3 speakers, Gingerbread, IR Blaster and official market access. Not bad for $189. The processer is an Cortex A8 with 512 RAM. runs really smooth and is very good to read both Kindle and B&N content.
I don't see the big deal over the "full" Android platform or iPad. What killer app will you miss out on with a Fire? Realistically none of these current tablets are more then a casual content consumption device, and at $199 the Kindle Fire seems a far better deal then a $500 Android tablet or iPad.
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[citation][nom]robisinho[/nom]let's not forget what you can get for $200 .. the author seems as if that's a drop in the bucket to him. $200 can buy you .. about ten dinners. It can pretty easily buy the groceries for a family of four for a week. $200 wins you ~6 tanks of gas -- that might be pushing 3 months of transportation for some people. Speaking of transportation, that $200 can buy you a round trip flight to Puerto Rico during discounts season.I find myself in that same position sometimes .. do I want to buy a toy like an iPad, that Ill use some and really enjoy -- or a vacation to Spain, that Ill remember forever?[/citation]
Buying an iPad is hardly a deal breaker for most people - people in fact waste so much, it's beyond insane.
Going out to dinner is probably the biggest waste. Next would probably be movies and all the other overpriced entertainment outlets that normal Americans have become accustomed to.
As for the vacations, to a point, I think they're a waste. Why you ask? Because yeah, they give you good memories, but how valuable are memories exactly? I have TONS of good memories from my childhood and past, but they do absolutely nothing for me now. They just remind me of how things are never going back to the way they were, and how that life has been gone and dead for a long time now.
The past is the past, and reminiscing over it is sorta useless IMHO. I'm one of those people who rather wake up and look forward to my future, instead of remembering my glory days in the past that no longer give me satisfaction.
Sorry if it got emo, but just sayin'.
Buying an iPad is hardly a deal breaker for most people - people in fact waste so much, it's beyond insane.
Going out to dinner is probably the biggest waste. Next would probably be movies and all the other overpriced entertainment outlets that normal Americans have become accustomed to.
As for the vacations, to a point, I think they're a waste. Why you ask? Because yeah, they give you good memories, but how valuable are memories exactly? I have TONS of good memories from my childhood and past, but they do absolutely nothing for me now. They just remind me of how things are never going back to the way they were, and how that life has been gone and dead for a long time now.
The past is the past, and reminiscing over it is sorta useless IMHO. I'm one of those people who rather wake up and look forward to my future, instead of remembering my glory days in the past that no longer give me satisfaction.
Sorry if it got emo, but just sayin'.
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[citation][nom]Zingam[/nom]In your ass, dude! It will perfectly fit in your fat ass! Maybe you should quit wondering and go to a gym, then look for a girl and make children.[/citation]
I think you're confusing me with your mom.
I think you're confusing me with your mom.
A friend pre ordered this months ago and received it yesterday, he went to the USPS to return it after 30 min. LMAO, I guess he was expecting too much. His biggest disappointment is that the build feels so cheap.
I think this is a good alerting article that comes too late.
I think this is a good alerting article that comes too late.
The detail that I never seem to hear mentioned is that none of these devices support Java, which that a significant part of the web can not be accessed. I do not understand why devices that are not fully web-complaint get away with say that they are.
There are way more than enough websites that require java that this situation is unacceptable, IMHO.
I am curious if anyone is in the "know" about why java is not supported on any tablets - I have hear that it is somehow "political", refusal to acknowledge a competitor (Oracle), but that doesn't sound quite right to me.
There are way more than enough websites that require java that this situation is unacceptable, IMHO.
I am curious if anyone is in the "know" about why java is not supported on any tablets - I have hear that it is somehow "political", refusal to acknowledge a competitor (Oracle), but that doesn't sound quite right to me.
"Furthermore, it does not include a microphone, a memory expansion slot (there are 8 GB of memory included), 3G/4G or GPS" - Really, 8 GB of memory? Great job by the reviewer getting specs wrong or not knowing the correct technical terms. Credibility of reviewer just got flushed down the toilet. Do everyone a favor and don't write tech reviews anymore.
i do think that the kindle fire is a wate of your money cuz my friend got 1 and you have to pay for books that you could get at your libary and it takes mooney from your bank account i dont have a kindle ora kindle fire but im not planing to buy 1 anytime soon id rather get an ipad.
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