Opinions On Custom Gaming Rig - And LED Strip Question for Rig

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I will be honest. I was pretty stupid at one point with my PC Builds. I think that now, though, I have learned a lot more and I think I know everything I really need to know. Sorry if that sounded weird, I have too many thoughts buzzing around in my head right now.

Anyways, Here's My Build.

i7-7700k
Kraken X62 AIO Liquid Cooler
Asus ROG Strix Z270-E Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (16GB*2)
ADATA ULTIMATE SU800 256GB SSD
Seagate 3TB HDD 7200RPM
Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Edition (WIP Decision, Planning to maybe either get a single 1080 TI OR maybe getting another one of these boys for an SLI config)
Corsair Carbide 600C Clear Edition
Corsair RM1000i PSU (Overkill, yes, but I just wanna future-proof everything, kay?)

So Yeah, I want the communities' opinions, as I may have more to learn. Is there anything I need to change? If there is something you want me to change, the total price of the entire build has to be under $2,200. Here's the Link to my PCPartPicker List lol (For the price)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GQ7vcc

Anyways, thanks for anyone who answers, and oh, yeah, also - Does anyone have ideas of what RGB LED Kit I should buy along with the 600C?
 
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1. If this is a gaming specific rig and no need for any workstation apps or video editing, consider a 7600k and recover $90... the extra cores aren't bringing anything to the table in gaming and w/ less cores, there's less heat and as a result, usually a better OC.

2. Not a board I would recommend but with LED lighting appearing to be the focus of the build it will satisfy your needs.

3. If it's about quality, noise or thermal performance, I would not install a Kraken .. The Kraken full tilt all out matches the thermal performance of the Swiftewch at idle pump and fan speeds, making the Kraken 5 times as loud..... if it's about the LEDs, then the Kraken fits the bill. Crank up the Swiftech and the Kraken not only can't compete...
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1. If this is a gaming specific rig and no need for any workstation apps or video editing, consider a 7600k and recover $90... the extra cores aren't bringing anything to the table in gaming and w/ less cores, there's less heat and as a result, usually a better OC.

2. Not a board I would recommend but with LED lighting appearing to be the focus of the build it will satisfy your needs.

3. If it's about quality, noise or thermal performance, I would not install a Kraken .. The Kraken full tilt all out matches the thermal performance of the Swiftewch at idle pump and fan speeds, making the Kraken 5 times as loud..... if it's about the LEDs, then the Kraken fits the bill. Crank up the Swiftech and the Kraken not only can't compete, it is not in the game, a full 5C behind the Swiftech and more than twice as loud. And the Swiftech is actually cheaper and has all copper components

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKdKVxbnp8

4. The SSD isn't doing anything for your 750 GB Steam Library which is sitting on that slow HD. Also 3 / 4 TB drives have a failure rate 3-4 times that of 2 TB drives. Recommend 2 TB SSHD

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-PCMark-7-Gaming,2915.html

Seagate 2 TB SSHD = 9.76 MB/s > 50% faster.
Seagate 3 TB = 6.43 MB/sec

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5748/seagate-desktop-2tb-sshd-st2000dx001-review/index9.html

5. Case is what ya gotta look at every day ... before pulling the trigger, the Evolv TG is a nice step up .. worth taking a look at
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/49624/tempered-glass-phanteks-enthoo-evolv-atx-belongs-art-gallery/index.html

4th one is an Asus Aura build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUkj23GgFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdRlHMkZS8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHjs9xet6DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS0nafce6NI

can also look at the Enthoo Luxe ... Phanteks manufacturer's simple plug-in type RGB LED strips for its cases.

6. It's hard for me to guess which term is more misused in the PC industry "bottlenecking" or "future proof" but a large PSU isn't doing that for you.
 
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A quad core 7700K has more cores than a quad core 7600K? :??:

OP - if it's just gaming I would drop the 32GB of RAM - you don't need it, and 1KW PSU is mega overkill, even for the concept of "future proofing". GPUs and CPUs are getting more energy efficient, not consuming more power. You don't need 1KW anymore even for an SLI setup.
 
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Absolutely, ... seems we need to get you started w/ CPUs 101 so read up on the difference between the i5 and i7 ... hyperthreading

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading

For each [i7] processor core that is physically present, the operating system addresses two virtual (logical) cores and shares the workload between them when possible. The main function of hyper-threading is to increase the number of independent instructions in the pipeline; it takes advantage of superscalar architecture, in which multiple instructions operate on separate data in parallel. With HTT, one physical core appears as two processors to the operating system, allowing concurrent scheduling of two processes per core. In addition, two or more processes can use the same resources: if resources for one process are not available, then another process can continue if its resources are available.
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Here's some screenies for ya .....

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That's a shot of Task manager... each window represents the CPU activity on each i7 core ... count the cores.

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That's a shot of me setting the affinity for each i7 core for a particular game.... count the cores

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P95 core test (8 cores)

 
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Agree with you on the other points, esp on PSU. This one I'd like some more back ground on



Can you cite a reference on the 2X failure rate for 3TB and 4TB vs 2TB ?

I've tried the combo SSHD flash cache drives, not a favorite. But if you like that sort of thing consider an optane drive as a cache using the intel MB caching software. The z270 MB supports it.

For best failure rates suggest OP avoid Seagate and consider HGST = Hitachi instead. Seagate has had problems. Aside: HGST is now part of WD (except for stuff toshiba got), so no idea when/if quality shifts. I use HGST and Toshiba in my raid arrays.

Here's 2016 data on 72K spinning consumer drives. You'd need to look at older data to see failure rates on 2TB drives.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-benchmark-stats-2016/

 
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Consider setting affinity to the pair of logical CPUs that share a physical core. They have a lot of parts in common, especially L1 cache, and being able to dispatch on either one of the two will give you better response time vs queing for a single logical CPU.
 
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Never took CPU's 101, but I'm pretty sure the i5 7600k is a 4 core 4 thread (4c/4t) processor, and the i7 7700k is a 4 core 8 thread (4c/8t) processor. That's probably why they call it Hyper-Threading. Rather than Hyper-Coring. Or the difference between something that is "Virtually" free, rather than "Actually" free.

To get back to the OP, given his concern about future proofing, the i7 isn't a bad choice over an i5. There's a sizable minority of modern games that absolutely benefit from more threads, such as BF1, Watch Dogs 2, Mass Effect Andromeda etc. With the release of Ryzen and Cannonlake expected to bump the core count, it's not unreasonable.
 
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Thanks SOOO much for this very detailed analysis. Honestly. I am thinking of getting that SSHD and I now am rethinking the Kraken. I'm also considering lowering the PSU Wattage. But I have one question. I once considered the Enthoo Evolv ATX TG as breathtaking - it was part of my original build config idea. And my standards and opinions on it still haven't changed. But with a 1080 SLI Config wouldn't the GPUs get really hot so bunched up together? I'm not the most well-educated in terms of Temps because I'm retarded as hell (when it comes to computers evidently) , so please don't take it out on me if my thesis is wrong lol. But anyways, thanks for the great tips.


EDIT: I just now realized you put "Not I Mobo I would recommend but w/ LED lighting it will satisfy your needs."

In your opinion, what would be a good Z270 Board? (Could you choose one w/ onboard wifi?)

Thanks.

 
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You're talking about threads. Threads =/= cores. And virtual cores do not equal real cores. It's the same as virtual memory. It is not real memory.
 
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Oh, and for the "just gaming rig" thing, I might plan on video editing and possibly streaming. And this may sound stupid and I think I know the answer to this already - would the i5-7600k be sufficient for this? I honestly doubt it. (And no, that wasn't meant to be rude. I don't know what's up, maybe it's my fault, but whenever I say something that sounds slightly rude it backfires lmao)
 
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No for that you want the i7. Video editing and streaming programs will take advantage of the extra threads.
 
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Thanks. Just making sure my assumptions were correct.
 
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Let me make something abundantly clear for you. If there is one thing on this website aside from the obvious (foul language etc) that we do not allow and cannot stand its misinformation. This entire post is misinformation. There is no situation where what you have posted is correct or makes any sense.

The 7600k and 7700k are both 4 core CPUs PERIOD. The 7700k has the ability to Hyperthread to 8 THREADS not cores, hence the displays on your system. A CPU that actually has 8 physical cores would perform the same tasks at twice the speed since the cores are not being shared between threads.

If you continue to post misinformation you will be taking a break from this site.
 
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Thanks for this information. I am honestly not sure how a question about my build turned into CPUs 101. I had nothing to do with this, and I am sorry if I did. I will remove this thread if you wish.

Have a good day.
 
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No need to apologize here, you did nothing wrong, and in return I apologize that your thread was taken so far off topic. This was clearly not your fault. If you don't have the answers you need let me know and we can continue this thread.
 
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Thank you for this reply. I will state that I have found a majority of the answers I'm looking for. You may end this thread if you want.

Thanks, and have a blessed day.
 
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