palladin9479 :
Holy sh!t....... batman.
I'm not being rude, but take this entire post and throw it out the window.
Your first sentence proves your claim at the beginning of the second sentence is disingenuous. In fact, the last part of the second sentence also proves your claim is a lie. You
are being rude.
Honestly, I don't think I've heard a more blindly arrogant statement in a long time.
You should learn how to debate. Making such statements at the beginning of your rebuttal makes the objective non-participants in the forum discount your assertions. Naturally your supporters, people already on your side, will often applaud this kind of condescension, but an impartial judge will score your performance very low.
Nevertheless, your post is inaccurate, therefore wrong because you have shown you do not understand the new computational architecture that is being brought into the APU.
The on-board Northbridge is a thing of the past with AMD's APU. Instructions coming from the GPU are no longer in serial along a PCIe X16 bus going through an on-board NB chip. They are going in parallel along a PCIe x24 bus
inside the chip itself and into the four cores of the quad core chips.
So, at the least your numbers are wrong because they assume an older architecture that the APU
doesn't use!
This article explains the architecture a little. Interesting that the last diagram matches your "29.8" figure, so I guess you can use calculator properly, but what that doesn't point out is that the diagram is showing only one core. At the very least you can multiply that by four to 119.2 as the article says "an average of four times the bandwidth". This multiplier notwithstanding a 6% increase in x86 instructions per cycle as earlier stated in the article.
But irregardless of the seemingly never-ending "benchmark shows this" and "benchmark shows that" back and forth I too often see on discussion threads like this one, real world proofs exist to show how versatile this new APU architecture really is.
Here's a YouTube video of a guy playing BF3, at medium to high settings at 1280x720 on the 3870K chip alone, OC'd to 3.2Ghz with only 4Gb of RAM.
Here's another video of a guy playing Batman Arkham City at 1600x900 on high settings, again on the 3870K alone, no mention of RAM or OC. Min FPS 28, very playable.
And here's one with a guy playing several games on the chip alone with 16Gb of RAM. He seems to be getting better results with the extra RAM, as the earlier article on the architecture says it would. This new APU seems to actually
benefit from more RAM.
And lastly,
here's one of a guy playing Bad Company 2 at 1080p with medium to high settings using dual graphics. He's got a 3850, very mildly OC'd and a Radeon HD 6670 card for dual graphics. Awesome performance with a very sweet 50 - 60 FPS!
Please explain how these people are getting these real world results on 29.8Gb/sec.
I'll wait.
I think AMD is gonna clean house with this new architecture. As was stated before, 90% of the gamers out there are buying systems at computer stores, NOT building their own from parts on-line. And even amongst those that are getting their stuff at NewEgg, a considerable percentage of those will be getting this APU because they are on a budget and want, maybe not a
big bang system, but enough bang to suffice, and for one-half or even one-quarter of the cost of those high-end, triple monitor, 100+ FPS systems we all drool over.
Soon you guys that are buying the $340 i7's, which BTW, should already be thanking us AMD hardcore users for the price drops you've already gotten from Intel, and are pairing those up with $1000 GTX690 GPU's, will be (or should be) thanking us again for further price drops when Intel and nVidia feel the pinch when their sales drop off.
In a year or two, just like the last time AMD introduced a game changer, the Athlon 64 x2. By December 2006 when the Brisbane's were released, AMD pwned the enthusiast market with the best CPU in the business. I remember well how the Intel shills were lamenting, "Just wait until Intel comes out with the Core 2 Duo next year, then you'll be sorry!"
I'm typing this post on a Brisbane 5000 now. Anybody out there still struggling along with that POS C2D?
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