Question Overall upgrade didn't go well, moving mouse and keyboard dramatically decreases FPS ?

[sonic23145]

I recently upgraded my gpu from a RX 6700 to a RX 9070 XT, and upgraded my ram to 32GB 6000MHZ CL30.

My whole specs after the upgrade:

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280
KLEVV CRAS V RGB DDR5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 6000 MHz CL30
MSI PRO X670-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB
NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Furmark results are the same or pretty similar to other 9070XT's results. In games I get that I would get some FPS less than the youtube videos in certain scenarios because of my CPU (specially at 1080p), but I've been having a lot of instablity and FPS issues.

I've mostly tested Cyberpunk 2077 and:

• There's no such thing as "smooth" with any settings, not even lowest settings (in any resolution), fps numbers are lower than peoples' with my same specs, and rarely is it ever smooth.
• Moving the mouse or walking around, even slightly alternating between A and D so I walk the smallest amount possible causes a significant FPS drop. It decreases FPS by 60 in 1080p and 1440p, and by 30 at 4K. Noticed CPU spikes up 10-16% when doing so, and GPU clock also drops.

What I've tried:

• Enabling SMT
• Lowering mouse polling rate to 125 hz
• Disabling and enabling ram EXPO
• Forcing PCIe 4.0
• Updated bios before upgrading
• Downgrading BIOS version to the one I had before upgrading
• Undoing any PBO and curve settings on the CPU
• Downgrading and updating GPU drivers
• Using DDU in safe mode to fully clean drivers
• Installing fresh windows
• Checked that all 300+ watts are being delivered to the GPU, and that all frequencies are going up to the correct values (in Furmark and stress tools)
• Checked all temps are under throttling temperatures.
• OCCT Memory and VRam tests at 99% (had no errors)
• Memtest86 overnight (passed)
• Trying different mouse and different usb port
• Disconnecting all devices except mouse
• Checked that no other process is eating CPU resources while moving mouse
• Checked that all cores are being used while in-game.

I've tried all of these things and the issue persists, this didn't happen before upgrading. I attached a video: first 20 seconds is at 1080p and the rest is 1440p. In the video I move the mouse quite a bit but the same happens with the smallest possible motion, the same applies to the keyboard.
If anyone can help me I'd appreciate your help, it's been such a hassle to get the GPU and now this happens.

 

[anonsky]

I'm pretty sure this is normal? When you're not looking around or moving there's just less things to render (also the fact you're looking at the sky). Unless you're stuttering like crazy this is pretty normal. The video's gameplay seems pretty smooth as far as I'm concerned, the frametime is also really stable

 

[sonic23145]

I'm pretty sure this is normal? When you're not looking around or moving there's just less things to render (also the fact you're looking at the sky). Unless you're stuttering like crazy this is pretty normal. The video's gameplay seems pretty smooth as far as I'm concerned, the frametime is also really stable

Thanks for answering! Unfortunately, the thing is that I've tested in very different ways to conclude that it's not that, Even the slightest and super tiniest mouse movement (to the point where I'm not rendering any extra stuff) decreases the FPS from 140 to 80-90. And even if it is what you say, that would mean i'm getting an 80 fps average on high settings at 1080p and 1440p which would mean it's underpeforming, comparing it to benchmarks on youtube with my same specs.

 

[sonic23145]

I recently upgraded my GPU from an RX 6700 to an RX 9070 XT, and upgraded my RAM to 32GB 6000MHZ CL30.

My current PC specs after the upgrades:

Mobo: MSI PRO X670-P WIFI ATX AM5
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
GPU: Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB
RAM: KLEVV CRAS V RGB DDR5 32GB (2 x 16GB) 6000 MHz CL30
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280
PSU: NZXT C750 (2022) 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX

Furmark results are the same or pretty similar to other 9070XT's results. In games I get that I would get some FPS less than the youtube videos in certain scenarios because of my CPU (specially at 1080p), but I've been having a lot of instablity and FPS issues.

I've mostly tested Cyberpunk 2077 and:

• There's no such thing as "smooth" with any settings, not even lowest settings (in any resolution), fps numbers are lower than peoples' with my same specs, and rarely is it ever smooth.
• Moving the mouse or walking around, even slightly alternating between A and D so I walk the smallest amount possible causes a significant FPS drop. It decreases FPS by 60 in 1080p and 1440p, and by 30 at 4K. Noticed CPU spikes up 10-16% when doing so, and GPU clock also drops.

What I've tried:

• Enabling SMT
• Lowering mouse polling rate to 125 hz
• Disabling and enabling ram EXPO
• Forcing PCIe 4.0
• Updated bios before upgrading
• Downgrading BIOS version to the one I had before upgrading
• Undoing any PBO and curve settings on the CPU
• Downgrading and updating GPU drivers
• Using DDU in safe mode to fully clean drivers
• Installing fresh windows
• Checked that all 300+ watts are being delivered to the GPU, and that all frequencies are going up to the correct values (in Furmark and stress tools)
• Checked all temps are under throttling temperatures.
• OCCT Memory and VRam tests at 99% (had no errors)
• Memtest86 overnight (passed)
• Trying different mouse and different usb port
• Disconnecting all devices except mouse
• Checked that no other process is eating CPU resources while moving mouse
• Checked that all cores are being used while in-game.

I've tried all of these things and the issue persists, this didn't happen before upgrading. I attached a video: first 20 seconds is at 1080p and the rest is 1440p. In the video I move the mouse quite a bit but the same happens with the smallest possible motion, and the same applies to the keyboard.
If anyone can help me I'd appreciate your help, it's been such a hassle to get the GPU and now this happens.

 

[VizzieTheViz]

Is it just this game or is it all games that exhibit this behavior?

 

[popatim]

Whats speed is the infinity fabric at? should be 2k

What socket is your nvme drive in?

 

[sonic23145]

Whats speed is the infinity fabric at? should be 2k

What socket is your nvme drive in?

Infinity fabric is at 2k, and the nvme drive is in the nearest slot to the CPU.

 

[sonic23145]

I don't want to draw any conclusions yet but I'm pretty sure it's the CPU bottlenecking, but I didn't know bottlenecking could cause an issue like the one I'm having with the mouse, that's why I tested everything so extensively. My head can't just wrap around why it would only happen when I move the mouse (even in the smallest motion possible). Issue stops at 4K but I really want to play at 1080p or at least 1440p because of the extra FPS.

 

[sonic23145]

Is it just this game or is it all games that exhibit this behavior?

I've only tested Spider-Man 2 after this. And it doesn't exhibit this behavior. Even in CPU limited scenarios like the city full of people, the FPS drops naturally because of my CPU, but it's still pretty smooth and there's no instability or significant decrease in performance when moving the mouse. I would have to test other games to see if only Cyberpunk is the one affected by this.

 

[sonic23145]

Just tested it and it also happens when walking around. Even slightly alternating between A and D so I walk the smallest amount possible causes the same issue. Edited the post to include this.

 

[popatim]

What does GPU-z say your pcie slot is running at? For speed, pcie version, and pcie lanes?

 

[beyondlogic]

I recently upgraded my gpu from a RX 6700 to a RX 9070 XT, and upgraded my ram to 32GB 6000MHZ CL30.

My whole specs after the upgrade:

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 280
KLEVV CRAS V RGB DDR5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 6000 MHz CL30
MSI PRO X670-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB
NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Furmark results are the same or pretty similar to other 9070XT's results. In games I get that I would get some FPS less than the youtube videos in certain scenarios because of my CPU (specially at 1080p), but I've been having a lot of instablity and FPS issues.

I've mostly tested Cyberpunk 2077 and:

• There's no such thing as "smooth" with any settings, not even lowest settings (in any resolution), fps numbers are lower than peoples' with my same specs, and rarely is it ever smooth.
• Moving the mouse or walking around, even slightly alternating between A and D so I walk the smallest amount possible causes a significant FPS drop. It decreases FPS by 60 in 1080p and 1440p, and by 30 at 4K. Noticed CPU spikes up 10-16% when doing so, and GPU clock also drops.

What I've tried:

• Enabling SMT
• Lowering mouse polling rate to 125 hz
• Disabling and enabling ram EXPO
• Forcing PCIe 4.0
• Updated bios before upgrading
• Downgrading BIOS version to the one I had before upgrading
• Undoing any PBO and curve settings on the CPU
• Downgrading and updating GPU drivers
• Using DDU in safe mode to fully clean drivers
• Installing fresh windows
• Checked that all 300+ watts are being delivered to the GPU, and that all frequencies are going up to the correct values (in Furmark and stress tools)
• Checked all temps are under throttling temperatures.
• OCCT Memory and VRam tests at 99% (had no errors)
• Memtest86 overnight (passed)
• Trying different mouse and different usb port
• Disconnecting all devices except mouse
• Checked that no other process is eating CPU resources while moving mouse
• Checked that all cores are being used while in-game.

I've tried all of these things and the issue persists, this didn't happen before upgrading. I attached a video: first 20 seconds is at 1080p and the rest is 1440p. In the video I move the mouse quite a bit but the same happens with the smallest possible motion, the same applies to the keyboard.
If anyone can help me I'd appreciate your help, it's been such a hassle to get the GPU and now this happens.

Your running the GPU that's minimum specs need a 850w psu

ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Edition | ASUS UK - Specifications

ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Edition: Experience unparalleled 4K gaming with AMD RDNA 4 architecture, military-grade components, and superior cooling.

www.asus.com

Not all 9070 xt are same some take more power then others

 

[VizzieTheViz]

I've only tested Spider-Man 2 after this. And it doesn't exhibit this behavior. Even in CPU limited scenarios like the city full of people, the FPS drops naturally because of my CPU, but it's still pretty smooth and there's no instability or significant decrease in performance when moving the mouse. I would have to test other games to see if only Cyberpunk is the one affected by this.

If I had to guess I’d say it’s some software / driver problem with cyberpunk, but you’d have to test a few more games to be sure.

If it turns out to be a cyberpunk problem maybe look at the settings in that game specifically or the setting in the AMD app for cyberpunk (if you use that app and have settings for cyberpunk).