'Overclocking' error on Cold Boot up

[furkan68k18]

Hi I have a problem with my pc. On a cold boot up it always goes into a boot loop after a couple of boot ups it seems to boot up normally but there is no signal with the monitor at all so I shut it down with the power button then start up again. Then it will boot up fine and give an error message "Overclocking has failed ...". then it would take me to the BIOS, and I would be able to continue to the Windows screen. It is not always the same, sometimes it gets stuck on boot screen or something but every time, I get the error message.

This is my specs:
MB: MS-7519
This is my motherboard:
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/P43TC51.html
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 2.66GHz
OS: Windows 10 (64 bit)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
RAM: 8Gb
8GB (4x2GB) Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 PC2-6400 Gaming Ram (CM2X2048-6400C5C)

So far I have only tried to disable 'Quick booting' at the boot menu which did not help
and also removed a second hard, which I read up that could be slowing down the boot up because it wasn't fast enough.

 

[furkan68k18]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from furkan68k18 : "NEED Help setting DRAM ratio and FSB frequency."

Hi I recently posted a thread because I was having problems with my pc where it would go into a boot loop and I would have to repeatedly open and close it until it booted properly and I would receive the "overclocking failure" message even when I haven't overclocked my pc. Here is the link to the thread: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3548619/weird-things-cold-boot.html

This is my specs:
MB: MS-7519
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 2.66GHz
OS: Windows 10 (64 bit)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
RAM: 8Gb (4x2gb)

I still havn't been able to fix the problem and was looking up solutions when I came across another thread where one of the contributors said he had the problem and said it had to do something with the dram ratio and dual channel.Here is what he wrote:

Well friends this problem really got into my nerves while I was still new to it and it required me to press the power button more than once before system actually boots up..After much despair and disappointment, what worked for me to get rid of this problem is what I am gonna post here..And its fairly simple,I swapped RAM..I have an MSI G41-P26 mainboard with the base of all x64 Intel CPUs, the humble old guy' pentium 4 ,3.00 GHz ,Cedar Mill V with 1 core and 2 logical processors.The CPU FSB is 200 MhZ and 2 x 2 GB Dynet DDR3 800 MHz Memory modules....The problem 'not booting at once'crept up in the machine with occasional annoying messages of 'overclocking failed' without doing so...The problem worsened still when amid such message, smell of something burning leaked out of the mainboard with system not responding at all from that point..,it would power on, fans would spin ,no beeps, no display.. So i one by one tested my memory modules and found that the problem rested on overclocked RAM modules, as they were in dual channel,and collectively clocking more than the prescribed DIMM frequency the Mainboard supplies with.So two things could be done, either underclock the RAM modules in BIOS by adjusting the Fsb DIMM ratio or pull out one of the RAM modules..so i am using only one of my 2 x2 GB memory modules rigorously checked for any faults.Bear in mind that one of your RAM modules might also be faulty...creating the problem..so overclocking means RAM issue usually.After I yanked out one of my RAMs, my system has been working fine..Hope you find 'what worked for me' useful!

Here is the link to the thread he wrote it in: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/264615-29-overclocking-failed-overclocking-system
I think I have the exact same problem as him because I have experienced the exact same kind of situation "it would power on, fans would spin ,no beeps, no display" and I can run fine with only 1 or 2 of my ram sticks in but not with 3 or 4 sticks. So I think adjusting the ratio and fsb will help. I will leave a picture of my bios so somebody can tell me what I have adjust the values to.

https://imgur.com/a/NfnPB

You wrote, it " run fine with only 1 or 2 of my ram sticks in but not with 3 or 4 sticks ".

No part number(s) or link to memory is given. Likely memory is incompatible with each other.

You wrote, it " run fine with only 1 or 2 of my ram sticks in but not with 3 or 4 sticks ".

No part number(s) or link to memory is given. Likely memory is incompatible with each other.

Oh no they're all the same ram, this set up has been working fine for some time now, I only just started getting this problem.

Maybe one of the sticks is getting errors. Run a memory test to see.

Maybe one of the sticks is getting errors. Run a memory test to see.

I've done pretty much everything I can, including that, but thanks anyway. I need someone to tell me what values I have to adjust the ratio and frequency to.

Could someone please help?

 

[helpstar]

Did you run memtest.org booted from a usb flash drive or CD?

Check all RAM seperately with memtest

The overclocking error always comes up if the PC couldn´t post/boot before or power was turned off.

Download the latest BIOS 2.6 and update the BIOS by M-Flash. Deactivate the flash protection before.
or if m-flash is not available:

how to create a bootable flash drive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06aRPJ5u8ns
how to flash a BIOS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8IBbrYq61E

most likely cause of your problem is a faulty power supply or motherboard, if the memtest doesn´t get errors

 

[furkan68k18]

Did you run memtest.org booted from a usb flash drive or CD?

Check all RAM seperately with memtest

The overclocking error always comes up if the PC couldn´t post/boot before or power was turned off.

Download the latest BIOS 2.6 and update the BIOS by M-Flash. Deactivate the flash protection before.
or if m-flash is not available:

how to create a bootable flash drive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06aRPJ5u8ns
how to flash a BIOS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8IBbrYq61E

most likely cause of your problem is a faulty power supply or motherboard, if the memtest doesn´t get errors

What does the 'flash protection' do why do I have to disable it?

 

[helpstar]

flash protection protects your BIOS from being flashed / updated

 

[furkan68k18]

I put the bios files into a usb, set the bios to boot from usb but it still boot drom my hard drive windows 10 even though I disabled booting from other device. So I unplugged the hard drive and just left the usb in this time it says ‘operating system missing’. Please help me with this problem. Btw I heard bios flashing is really risky, how high of a risk do I have of messing up my mobo, I have made sure I have the right bios for my mobo?

 

[furkan68k18]

and btw i did disable flash protection

 

[furkan68k18]

Update: I was getting the boot loop again on a cold boot up, took out all 4 ram to test them one by one, the first one I tested it had the boot loop the other 3 were fine in the same slot, put the 'faulty' one in again it worked. I think it might be faulty but not enough to fail every time? Right now I have the 3 that worked the first time in going to see if I get the boot loop with only these 3 in.

 

[helpstar]

if you don´t run memtest you never know if one or more sticks are faulty.

Also could be the power supply, hard drive or motherboard

 

[furkan68k18]

Like I said the ram wasn't faulty enough to be picked up as faulty by memtest, I had already tried that. What I did was replace the faulty ram and I have no more problems. But now I've sold that system and have built a new pc.