Overclocking i7 3770K to >4.5GHz

[Iglesias]

have you tried raising your vdroop instead of just choosing 12.5%?

Oh no, so I should double it?
Or you think it's different values for each motherboard.

yeah try an double it if you crashed within seconds but, u need to keep watching your voltage, so you can confirm what vdroop is actually going to do to your load and idle voltages.

Or is Vdroop something that drops in voltage when CPU isn't under load.

 

[mr1hm]

have you tried raising your vdroop instead of just choosing 12.5%?

Oh no, so I should double it?
Or you think it's different values for each motherboard.

yeah try an double it if you crashed within seconds but, u need to keep watching your voltage, so you can confirm what vdroop is actually going to do to your load and idle voltages.

Or is Vdroop something that drops in voltage when CPU isn't under load.

it is and it's a very general term which means lowering of voltage but, im not quite sure how MSI implemented load-line calibration in the BIOS.

what exactly was the voltage when stress testing with 12.5% vdroop? without this information, i cant really tell you whether or not vdroop is only used to LOWER the voltage and that we should be looking for a different option in the BIOS.

 

[Iglesias]

have you tried raising your vdroop instead of just choosing 12.5%?

Oh no, so I should double it?
Or you think it's different values for each motherboard.

yeah try an double it if you crashed within seconds but, u need to keep watching your voltage, so you can confirm what vdroop is actually going to do to your load and idle voltages.

Or is Vdroop something that drops in voltage when CPU isn't under load.

it is and it's a very general term which means lowering of voltage but, im not quite sure how MSI implemented load-line calibration in the BIOS.

what exactly was the voltage when stress testing with 12.5% vdroop?

Mmm, not sure. It crashed so I couldn't read it.

Can I put Vdroop at 37.5% and see if the CPU voltage actually drops when it's on idle? or not fully loaded?

 

[mr1hm]

have you tried raising your vdroop instead of just choosing 12.5%?

Oh no, so I should double it?
Or you think it's different values for each motherboard.

yeah try an double it if you crashed within seconds but, u need to keep watching your voltage, so you can confirm what vdroop is actually going to do to your load and idle voltages.

Or is Vdroop something that drops in voltage when CPU isn't under load.

it is and it's a very general term which means lowering of voltage but, im not quite sure how MSI implemented load-line calibration in the BIOS.

what exactly was the voltage when stress testing with 12.5% vdroop?

Mmm, not sure. It crashed so I couldn't read it.

Can I put Vdroop at 50% and see if the CPU voltage actually drops when it's on idle? or not fully loaded?

id say try it again and be sure to be watching the voltage so you can see whether your voltages are dropping or rising. if it's dropping below your specified voltage of 1.250v than try to increase the percentage and if you notice that after increasing the percentage you can no longer boot or its even more unstable then this is probably not the setting were looking for.

 

[Iglesias]

have you tried raising your vdroop instead of just choosing 12.5%?

Oh no, so I should double it?
Or you think it's different values for each motherboard.

yeah try an double it if you crashed within seconds but, u need to keep watching your voltage, so you can confirm what vdroop is actually going to do to your load and idle voltages.

Or is Vdroop something that drops in voltage when CPU isn't under load.

it is and it's a very general term which means lowering of voltage but, im not quite sure how MSI implemented load-line calibration in the BIOS.

what exactly was the voltage when stress testing with 12.5% vdroop?

Mmm, not sure. It crashed so I couldn't read it.

Can I put Vdroop at 50% and see if the CPU voltage actually drops when it's on idle? or not fully loaded?

id say try it again and be sure to be watching the voltage so you can see whether your voltages are dropping or rising. if it's dropping below your specified voltage of 1.250v than try to increase the percentage and if you notice that after increasing the percentage you can no longer boot or its even more unstable then this is probably not the setting were looking for.

Okay, I used a Vdroop value of 37.5%.
CPU Core Voltage: 1.25
CPUID Max Voltage 0%: 1.232-1.24
CPUID Max Voltage 100%: 1.192-1.2.
Then I BSoD.

So overall, everything did drop.

 

[mr1hm]

check to see if raising it gives you higher voltages under 100% load and lower voltages at idle.

 

[Iglesias]

check to see if raising it gives you higher voltages under 100% load and lower voltages at idle.

How about I leave it as is.. No more messing around..

Cause I do get 36-42C at 1.248V (not under load).

 

[mr1hm]

check to see if raising it gives you higher voltages under 100% load and lower voltages at idle.

How about I leave it as is.. No more messing around..

Cause I do get 36-42C at 1.248V (not under load).

you do know that your CPU is probably unstable or waiting for a crash/BSOD to happen right?

your vdroop setting is set to decrease voltage while under load and increase voltage while idling. we need a setting that's the exact opposite of this so that when anything loads the CPU, it doesn't immediately shut off/BSOD or so that you can game/use heavy programs without instability issues.

 

[Iglesias]

check to see if raising it gives you higher voltages under 100% load and lower voltages at idle.

How about I leave it as is.. No more messing around..

Cause I do get 36-42C at 1.248V (not under load).

you do know that your CPU is probably unstable or waiting for a crash/BSOD to happen right?

your vdroop setting is set to decrease voltage while under load and increase voltage while idling. we need a setting that's the exact opposite of this so that when anything loads the CPU, it doesn't immediately shut off/BSOD or so that you can game/use heavy programs without instability issues.

Oh, this is before the Vdroop, EIST, intel c-state, a C12 support.
I changed those values back to default.

Cause I don't get over 50 degrees C at 1.248V(unloaded), so that should cancel
So, I'm safe to go now right?

 

[mr1hm]

i dont think you're really understanding me here.

the 50C is as you stated is when you're only idling, however, we don't buy CPUs to have them sit there and look pretty.

when the CPU goes under load, your voltage is dropping which is bad and should not happen. what SHOULD be happening is the opposite, an increase in voltage as the CPU is under more and more load.

to check for stability you can use P95 (along with making sure that all your programs/games are working fine) or AIDA64 (you could only leave the "FPU Test" checked and this will give you literally the MAXIMUM temperature your CPU will ever hit).

 

[Iglesias]

i dont think you're really understanding me here.

the 50C is as you stated is when you're only idling, however, we don't buy CPUs to have them sit there and look pretty.

when the CPU goes under load, your voltage is dropping which is bad and should not happen. what SHOULD be happening is the opposite, an increase in voltage as the CPU is under more and more load.

to check for stability you can use P95 (along with making sure that all your programs/games are working fine) or AIDA64 (you could only leave the "FPU Test" checked and this will give you literally the MAXIMUM temperature your CPU will ever hit).

Under load = doing more tasks?

So if my CPU is 100% loaded, my voltage should get higher than my idle?

Cause at idle it's 1.248, at 100% load it's 1.24

I'm using OCCT

 

[mr1hm]

i dont think you're really understanding me here.

the 50C is as you stated is when you're only idling, however, we don't buy CPUs to have them sit there and look pretty.

when the CPU goes under load, your voltage is dropping which is bad and should not happen. what SHOULD be happening is the opposite, an increase in voltage as the CPU is under more and more load.

to check for stability you can use P95 (along with making sure that all your programs/games are working fine) or AIDA64 (you could only leave the "FPU Test" checked and this will give you literally the MAXIMUM temperature your CPU will ever hit).

Under load = doing more tasks?

So if my CPU is 100% loaded, my voltage should get higher than my idle?

Cause at idle it's 1.248, at 100% load it's 1.24

I'm using OCCT

i havent used OCCT but, im sure it'll do fine. so, yes, you do want higher voltages when the CPU is under load (yes, like doing more tasks) and lower voltages when there is no load on the CPU so that it can keep itself cooler.

 

[Iglesias]

i dont think you're really understanding me here.

the 50C is as you stated is when you're only idling, however, we don't buy CPUs to have them sit there and look pretty.

when the CPU goes under load, your voltage is dropping which is bad and should not happen. what SHOULD be happening is the opposite, an increase in voltage as the CPU is under more and more load.

to check for stability you can use P95 (along with making sure that all your programs/games are working fine) or AIDA64 (you could only leave the "FPU Test" checked and this will give you literally the MAXIMUM temperature your CPU will ever hit).

Under load = doing more tasks?

So if my CPU is 100% loaded, my voltage should get higher than my idle?

Cause at idle it's 1.248, at 100% load it's 1.24

I'm using OCCT

i havent used OCCT but, im sure it'll do fine. so, yes, you do want higher voltages when the CPU is under load (yes, like doing more tasks) and lower voltages when there is no load on the CPU so that it can keep itself cooler.

So as of now, I'm doing the complete opposite.. More voltage when doing nothing, less voltage when doing more.

How do I get it to be the other way around?

 

[mr1hm]

you need to check if raising the percentage of Vdroop will provide exactly what we're looking which is more voltage while doing more things and less voltage while doing less things.

 

[Iglesias]

you need to check if raising the percentage of Vdroop will provide exactly what we're looking which is more voltage while doing more things and less voltage while doing less things.

Are you using an offset or some type?

 

[mr1hm]

yes, offset CPU voltage.