Overclocking Ryzen 2600 with stock cooler

[bazznet1]

Hi,
Is it possible to overclock a Ryzen 2600 to 4GHZ with stock cooler and B450 mobo? Is there anyone?
Thanks.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

3.8 to 4ghz should be your target with a stock cooler on a b450 board. Tomshardware got 4.1ghz with the b450 on their board but were using a AIO cooler. Pending on your chip, you may require more or less voltage to get 4ghz, the more voltage, the more temperature.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi,5705-4.html

 

[bazznet1]

Ok, and how many FPS will I get on 3.8GHZ~4GHZ?

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Ok, and how many FPS will I get on 3.8GHZ~4GHZ?

That really depends on the game. But overclocking for gaming workloads on the Ryzen CPUs is really not gaining much performance improvement because the way the turbo works. The CPUs pretty much overclock themselves to one or two cores. Since most games only run on a few cores, there is not much improvement by overclocking all of the cores to 4ghz.

Here is a review on the 2600 from techpowerup, it shows an average of 1% increase in fps by overclocking to 4ghz vs stock because it will turbo to 3.9ghz.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600/13.html

I would not worry about how much it will overclock. The 2600 is a very good CPU and it will run fine on a b450 board right out of the box.

 

[bazznet1]

But even i7 8700K on 5GHZ can't provide much performance improvement:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_8700K/18.html

It shows an average 2.6% increase.

Maybe should I go with R5 2600 instead of 8400 (that was my dilemma)?
Same performance in gaming, but 2600 has more threads. Can't find an advantage in i5 8400.

What do you think?

 

[feelinfroggy777]

One of the reasons there is such a small difference with the 8700k's overclocking is again, it pretty much overclocks itself, particularly for gaming workloads. You start to get limited returns as you move to the top. I would not recommend the 8700k to most people. Only the people that have the money and want to pay for the very best. In the end you spend 30% more money for 5-10% better performance. With that being said, I have an 8700k because I am a junkie. lol

The 8400 is a really good CPU. For strictly gaming, it beats the 2600 by about 5%. But for multitasking and higher threaded applications, the 2600 smokes the 8400. Now that the b450 chipset has been released, it brings the cost of the 2600 platform down and it is what I would recommend for a solid midrange build at a good cost. Just make sure you get some higher speed RAM as AMD CPUs scale well with high speed RAM. Look for RAM that is 3000-32000mhz.

 

[PdxPetmonster]

You'll see some improvements, but not a ton moving from 3.8 to 4. I went from 3.7 to 4.25, and I saw marginal changes in some games (WoW, D3), and noticeable in others (Cities Skylines, AoTS). A lot of that does depend on the game itself.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

The reason why is how many cores the game runs on. If you do an all core overclock to 4ghz then each core is running at that speed. But if you are running it at stock, then the single core speed is running a 4ghz. So if the game likes single core performance (which most do), then you are not seeing any benefit. Only at the times when more than a couple of cores are used.

In 2018, overclocking really only helps in heavily threaded applications. Basically, workstation task and gaming is not heavily threaded. Not yet. Now that 6 and 8 core CPUs are mainstream, in the coming years we will see games start to take advantage of those extra threads.

 

[kgt1182]

Overclocking Ryzen 2nd gen to 4 GHz is a normal feat, unlike the 1st gen which was difficult to pass the 4 GHz mark.

You probably might need roughly 1.275V, which can be handled easily by the stock cooler.
OC performance is about 10-15% better than stock.