Question Pangoly.com uses QVL for Ram compatibility. Any other sites use QVL?

[Angel Fernandez]

I'm trying reaching out to the Toms family for a bit of info. I've used PCPartsPicker and it's a good site. I found Pangoly.com and it has a minor perk that sets it above PCPartsPicker. Pangoly uses OEM Qualified Vendor Lists for ram. Does anyone know of any other sites that use QVL lists for ram compatibility?

 

[Darkbreeze]

None that I know of. And if Pangoly uses the QVL lists only, then they are eliminating a LOT of memory kits that probably work perfectly fine on any given board. QVL lists only offer a VERY small sampling of what works on a given board, because they only test a very few models. (Well, very few compared to all the potentially viable kits out there.)

For example, a specific board model might only list three or four, if that, models of 2x16GB 6000MT/s G.Skill memory while G.Skill, who does FAR more extensive testing (As do most memory manufacturers that offer their own compatibility lists by board model) than the board manufacturers do, of their own memory kits, might actually list ten or fifteen kits that fit the same criteria.

But it's equally true that PCPP doesn't vet ANY of the kits for a given board, aside from ensuring it's the right "type" of memory (DDR, SODIMM) (DDR4, DDR5, etc.). Personally, I've heard from quite a few people that they've found inaccurate information on Pangoly, but then again, that's just hearsay. I don't use their site and it's unlikely I ever will as PCPP seems to be far more extensive in terms of filtering capability and accuracy, use or non-use of QVL aside.

I always recommend using the memory manufacturers compatibility list, which is why generally speaking unless I know for sure because I can validate the information elsewhere from experienced, trustworthy users, I stick to G.Skill, Corsair and Crucial, because those are the only manufacturers I know that have full listed compatibility by every major board model.

 

[Angel Fernandez]

None that I know of. And if Pangoly uses the QVL lists only, then they are eliminating a LOT of memory kits that probably work perfectly fine on any given board. QVL lists only offer a VERY small sampling of what works on a given board, because they only test a very few models. (Well, very few compared to all the potentially viable kits out there.)

For example, a specific board model might only list three or four, if that, models of 2x16GB 6000MT/s G.Skill memory while G.Skill, who does FAR more extensive testing (As do most memory manufacturers that offer their own compatibility lists by board model) than the board manufacturers do, of their own memory kits, might actually list ten or fifteen kits that fit the same criteria.

But it's equally true that PCPP doesn't vet ANY of the kits for a given board, aside from ensuring it's the right "type" of memory (DDR, SODIMM) (DDR4, DDR5, etc.). Personally, I've heard from quite a few people that they've found inaccurate information on Pangoly, but then again, that's just hearsay. I don't use their site and it's unlikely I ever will as PCPP seems to be far more extensive in terms of filtering capability and accuracy, use or non-use of QVL aside.

I always recommend using the memory manufacturers compatibility list, which is why generally speaking unless I know for sure because I can validate the information elsewhere from experienced, trustworthy users, I stick to G.Skill, Corsair and Crucial, because those are the only manufacturers I know that have full listed compatibility by every major board model.

None that I know of. And if Pangoly uses the QVL lists only, then they are eliminating a LOT of memory kits that probably work perfectly fine on any given board. QVL lists only offer a VERY small sampling of what works on a given board, because they only test a very few models. (Well, very few compared to all the potentially viable kits out there.)

For example, a specific board model might only list three or four, if that, models of 2x16GB 6000MT/s G.Skill memory while G.Skill, who does FAR more extensive testing (As do most memory manufacturers that offer their own compatibility lists by board model) than the board manufacturers do, of their own memory kits, might actually list ten or fifteen kits that fit the same criteria.

But it's equally true that PCPP doesn't vet ANY of the kits for a given board, aside from ensuring it's the right "type" of memory (DDR, SODIMM) (DDR4, DDR5, etc.). Personally, I've heard from quite a few people that they've found inaccurate information on Pangoly, but then again, that's just hearsay. I don't use their site and it's unlikely I ever will as PCPP seems to be far more extensive in terms of filtering capability and accuracy, use or non-use of QVL aside.

I always recommend using the memory manufacturers compatibility list, which is why generally speaking unless I know for sure because I can validate the information elsewhere from experienced, trustworthy users, I stick to G.Skill, Corsair and Crucial, because those are the only manufacturers I know that have full listed compatibility by every major board model.

Thank you the information. You confirmed my thoughts. While the Pangoly site points you in the right direction, you need to triple check.
Much appreciated 👍!

 

[Darkbreeze]

For sure anytime.

 

[CountMike]

Thank you the information. You confirmed my thoughts. While the Pangoly site points you in the right direction, you need to triple check.
Much appreciated 👍!

There's also "Reverse" search for RAM compatibility. Most serious RAM manufacturers have or can provide compatibility of their products to MBs and systems. It's even more comprehensive that MB QVLs.
For instance

https://www.crucial.com/upgrades

 

[Darkbreeze]

There's also "Reverse" search for RAM compatibility. Most serious RAM manufacturers have or can provide compatibility of their products to MBs and systems. It's even more comprehensive that MB QVLs.
For instance

https://www.crucial.com/upgrades

The only memory manufacturers that offer a comprehensive list of tested memory per motherboard that I know of, and listed here earlier, are G.Skill, Crucial and Corsair. If you know of others that have a per motherboard model list of validated memory kits, please post it, because I've not seen any others and if there are any they have to either be a very niche manufacturer that I wouldn't have normally considered or have offered such a list only fairly recently and I just haven't seen it yet.

But if there are, it would be good to know. It certainly isn't "most serious RAM manufacturers" because I'd considered SK Hynix (Who is ACTUALLY a manufacturer of ICs), Samsung (Also an IC manufacturer), Patriot, Teamgroup, Geil, Kingston, PNY, Supermicro, Mushkin and Intel to be "serious manufacturers of RAM" but so far as I know none of them have an extensive motherboard compatibility based list of what memory kits they sell that have been validated by motherboard model.

 

[CountMike]

The only memory manufacturers that offer a comprehensive list of tested memory per motherboard that I know of, and listed here earlier, are G.Skill, Crucial and Corsair. If you know of others that have a per motherboard model list of validated memory kits, please post it, because I've not seen any others and if there are any they have to either be a very niche manufacturer that I wouldn't have normally considered or have offered such a list only fairly recently and I just haven't seen it yet.

But if there are, it would be good to know. It certainly isn't "most serious RAM manufacturers" because I'd considered SK Hynix (Who is ACTUALLY a manufacturer of ICs), Samsung (Also an IC manufacturer), Patriot, Teamgroup, Geil, Kingston, PNY, Supermicro, Mushkin and Intel to be "serious manufacturers of RAM" but so far as I know none of them have an extensive motherboard compatibility based list of what memory kits they sell that have been validated by motherboard model.

https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/desktop-laptop