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eden
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Yes but you answered yourself really, new type boards, are not needed.
If you have them then those CPUs will be unlocked. But for those like me who have an old board (KT266A) but cannot use the new 200MHZ or 166MHZ bus, such a tool is a damn good thing.
Finally I can see a future for my CPU if I ever upgraded! With no BIOS update I guess.
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If you have them then those CPUs will be unlocked. But for those like me who have an old board (KT266A) but cannot use the new 200MHZ or 166MHZ bus, such a tool is a damn good thing.
Finally I can see a future for my CPU if I ever upgraded! With no BIOS update I guess.
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Cool, so how far can you upgrade on yours I wonder?!
EDIT: Quote from article, "Here, we have only positive things to report, because even the relatively new Barton could be used with the 8KHA+ from Epox with the KT266A chipset. The highest multiplier attainable is x17, where we were able to reach a clock speed of 2.26 GHz at 133 MHz FSB." THIS would mean a cpu that runs around 3200+ speeds or so! Of course there would be a performance hit on the slower memory, depending on the application I would guess that would give a PCMark similar to a 2600+ system. Again, that's only a guess. I wonder which mobo Patrick was using in the benches cuz he says in the Test Setup that he uses several boards but there is only one result given for each speed.
EDIT: Quote from article, "Here, we have only positive things to report, because even the relatively new Barton could be used with the 8KHA+ from Epox with the KT266A chipset. The highest multiplier attainable is x17, where we were able to reach a clock speed of 2.26 GHz at 133 MHz FSB." THIS would mean a cpu that runs around 3200+ speeds or so! Of course there would be a performance hit on the slower memory, depending on the application I would guess that would give a PCMark similar to a 2600+ system. Again, that's only a guess. I wonder which mobo Patrick was using in the benches cuz he says in the Test Setup that he uses several boards but there is only one result given for each speed.
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I never understood the test. What are these speeds from?
Extrapolations? Which boards?
What a shoddy benchmarking section.
Yes, chipset and memory would hinder a fair bit. But if I can get 2700+ Tbred B performance from an nForce 2 combo, then that is still great.
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Extrapolations? Which boards?
What a shoddy benchmarking section.
Yes, chipset and memory would hinder a fair bit. But if I can get 2700+ Tbred B performance from an nForce 2 combo, then that is still great.
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I have an XP2000+ on a KT266A motherboard. Please tell me if I have the following two points correct..
With this device I could
1. Up the multiplier on my existing machine
2. Buy a newer cpu, run it on at a slower FSB than it normally runs at, but at the same or faster multipler.
Have I got this right?
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With this device I could
1. Up the multiplier on my existing machine
2. Buy a newer cpu, run it on at a slower FSB than it normally runs at, but at the same or faster multipler.
Have I got this right?
<font color=purple><b>Brad</b></font color=purple>
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No need to lower FSB. Just up multiplier with the 133MHZ FSB you have, to attain the speeds of that CPU. Since it will anyways run at a lower frequency. (Putting a 2.2GHZ 200MHZ FSB Barton will give you 1.46GHZ in 133MHZ FSB mode. You will thus need a 16.5x multiplier to attain 2.2GHZ again)
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Yes, that's what I get out of the article. It appears that you could get around 30 percent higher raw cpu power in your system. If your a gamer this would mean you can justify scaling up to the most modern grapichs cards...say a Radeon 9500 Pro or something as long as you have a 300Watt+ power supply(recommended minimum especially if your running a full box).
EDIT: oh yeah i didnt read the thread accurately. No need to lower FSB as EDEN said. If anything consider increasing it synchronously by a small percentage if you wanna sqeeze a little extra memory bandwidth which the new cpu would appreciate (recommended only if you have a know good oc'ing motherboard and memory).
EDIT: oh yeah i didnt read the thread accurately. No need to lower FSB as EDEN said. If anything consider increasing it synchronously by a small percentage if you wanna sqeeze a little extra memory bandwidth which the new cpu would appreciate (recommended only if you have a know good oc'ing motherboard and memory).
I was asking myself: if that device can run a Barton 2500+ with a BIOS that don't recognize it, does it mean BIOS is NOT a problem for running Bartons on KT266A boards?
If the only problem is multiplier (and FSB), then I think for most of us it doesn't make sense to buy this adapter. Just buy a Barton and use it! And also overclock if you want!
Also I'm sure my SLK800 is better than the cooler they provide with the adapter.
Still looking for a <b>good online retailer</b> in Spain :frown: <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by baldurga on 07/04/03 11:17 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
If the only problem is multiplier (and FSB), then I think for most of us it doesn't make sense to buy this adapter. Just buy a Barton and use it! And also overclock if you want!
Also I'm sure my SLK800 is better than the cooler they provide with the adapter.
Still looking for a <b>good online retailer</b> in Spain :frown: <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by baldurga on 07/04/03 11:17 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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Ok.. I went to the Upgradeware site and read about this XP-TMC, so called CPU Unlock device.. It says on there the following..
"Before using XP-TMC for upgrade, you must check whether the multipliers of your Athlon XP is locked or not. If yes, you can't use XP-TMC for adjusting the multipliers."
It goes on to say... "If L1 bridge is cut ..., it says that the multipliers are locked and you can't use XP-TMC for adjusting them."
No shi# Sherlock.
Didn't Tom do an artical about this MONTHS ago. Super glue, conductive silver paint, connecting the L1 bridges etc etc.
Tonight I pulled my comptuer to bits to get the CPU out and have a look. Yep, my L1 bridges are cut. Therefore the multiplier on my CPU is locked. This XP-TMC will no work with my CPU.
What is odd here, is that if I followed Toms 'How to' that I mentioned above, it would allow me to 'unlock the mulitplier' anyway.
So if I do that, why would I need to buy XP-TPC?
<font color=purple><b>Brad</b></font color=purple>
"Before using XP-TMC for upgrade, you must check whether the multipliers of your Athlon XP is locked or not. If yes, you can't use XP-TMC for adjusting the multipliers."
It goes on to say... "If L1 bridge is cut ..., it says that the multipliers are locked and you can't use XP-TMC for adjusting them."
No shi# Sherlock.
Didn't Tom do an artical about this MONTHS ago. Super glue, conductive silver paint, connecting the L1 bridges etc etc.
Tonight I pulled my comptuer to bits to get the CPU out and have a look. Yep, my L1 bridges are cut. Therefore the multiplier on my CPU is locked. This XP-TMC will no work with my CPU.
What is odd here, is that if I followed Toms 'How to' that I mentioned above, it would allow me to 'unlock the mulitplier' anyway.
So if I do that, why would I need to buy XP-TPC?
<font color=purple><b>Brad</b></font color=purple>
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