PC Budget (Rs. 50,000~65,000) Build AMD or Intel ?

[Snake008]

Hey guys, I'm from India, Chennai and I built an intel based PC around a year ago which was not on a budget (bought during a diwali sale for an insane discounted price for most components) so it was easy to pick out the right parts. That was my first experience with a PC build after many years (I was perplexed to see the watercoolers and the air coolers, haha.) I assembled it in 4 hours or more because It was all a new experience (following Asus's JJ's youtube pc build guide).

So anyway, a family member saw my build and wanted a custom PC too. He asked me to help him build a PC, but the problem was the budget was way too less compared to what I used. As to when, well that will be decided after giving him the information of the build.

Purpose: 1080p Gaming (GTA 5, BF4 and the latest games at least above 40 FPS in high+ settings, basically better than a console), Movies, Adobe software's (this is not for professional use but for personal), Music Recording/Composing on DAW, Everyday use etc..

He asked me for my opinion on AMD vs Intel (I know intel is great for video editing and overall performance, but have little to no knowledge on AMD apart from it has a lot of cores, never even knew what AM3+ or FM2 meant till recently). I know the intel build are costlier by a huge difference compared to AMD's, hence I decided to make 2 budget builds with inclusive of monitor, DVD R/W, Keyboard, Mouse & wifi/bluetooth usb's as its near impossible to find the mini PCIe Cards in my city or online for a desktop.

Ok so I calculated the budget for an intel based PC (i5 4460) and it was around 70,000 Rs. inclusive of SSD, without it around 65,000~66,000 Rupees. Which is way over the budget even after cutting corners, I'm not sure on the Wattage of my PSU (I was looking at 600W but If a 500W will suffice let me know).
NOTE: The CPU, MoBo, Cabinet (2 usb 3.0, 2 usb 2.0 front), CPU cooler, RAM & possible PSU will be purchased from www.theitdepot.com for warranty purposes. The others from www.amazon.in www.flipkart.com www.snapdeal.com
So here's the part list:
Case - Deepcool Pangu V2 Mid Tower Computer Case - 5055 Rs. comes with one exhaust fan i think.
Motherboard - PCIe 3.0 x16 Asus B85M-G mATX- Rs.5955 or MSI B85-G41 (ATX PCIe 3.0)- Rs. 6235
Processor - i5 4460 - 14,415 Rs.
PSU - Cooler Master B Series B600 - Rs. 4795
CPU Cooler - CM hyper 212x - 3195 Rs.
RAM - Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 Unbuffered NON-ECC 1.5V - RS. 1,560 x2 = Rs. 3,120.
DVD writer - LG 24x DVD/CD R/W - Rs.1010
HDD - SEAGATE 1tb Barracuda 7200 rpm Rs. 3,630
GPU - probably a 750 ti 2gb ZOTAC or asus depending on the price of it, maximum 12,000 Rs limit.
SSD - 3,450 Rs. 120gb kingston v300
Monitor - Benq 21.5inch LED Monitor (GW2270H) Rs. 8,475
Keyboard & Mouse - 2,600 Rs. (personal preference from whatever brand by him)
Wifi+bluetooth usb - 1,800 Rs.

Total: Rs. 69,780 might be lower by 2~3k Rs. or more, depending on component price at time of purchase. Approx 1045.23$ but not the same price per performance as you can build a far greater pc in $.

Now for AMD: Total to be below Rs. 60,000 inclusive of all monitor, keyboard & mouse and other peripherals mentioned above.
The things I need help with is CPU, MoBo, GPU, PSU, Cooler & Ram. The rest is pretty much the same.
Now as per mentioned on the purpose of this build,
FOR CPU:Will a fx 6300 suffice or a 8320E suffice (I cannot go beyond this due to budget) or should I go for a FM2+ CPU?
FOR MoBo: I require something sold in www.theitdepot.com, features looking for in
back port 2x usb 3.0 at back and 4x usb 2.0, integrated graphics(HDMI to support 1080p) if that's even possible but not important, so maybe a couple of suggestions is appreciated. Any audio port, I'm not very sure about what is good. PS/2 at least one available, at least 3 or more fan headers, sata3 6gbps 4x ports minimum, mid board usb 3.0 (supporting 2x usb 3.0 front) and usb 2.0 (supporting 2x usb 2.0 in front) & finally Ethernet port. So based on this a couple of over all suggestion is appreciated.
FOR GPU: If 750ti works for this then I'm looking for that. I've never used Radeon Cards before so I'm not sure which is equivalent to the 750ti in terms of price and performance for the mentioned purpose.
FOR PSU: I'm aware that AMD draws more power than intel, so what would you suggest as a good budget PSU from the website(same as Mobo mentioned above), in terms of wattage.
For CPU Cooler: Air or water? also is the cooler mentioned above for the intel based pc, compatible with the AMD? This Case has only one exhaust fan, so with the cooler it will be 2 fans overall. Maybe if budget permits I can buy a couple of more fans to mount.
For RAM: This pc will see 16gb of ram in the future but not more than that, so 8gb will do. I know about dual channel but I'm more leaning towards budget so a single stick of 8gb RAM from MoBo website will suffice. As for bandwidth, I'm not sure if I should get 1600mhz or 1833mhz (not gonna overclock hardcore, maybe a just a bit, depends on stock performance. So might not overclock at all).

So can someone please help me with the AMD parts with price from the website? The other peripherals price are already mentioned in the intel build. Just to make it easier for anyone whos willing to help me out.
60,000 - 26,020 (Case, DVD r/w, Mouse&keyboard, wifi+bluetooth usb, monitor, SSD, HDD)
= 33,980 Rs. for GPU, Cooler, PSU, Mobo, ram & processor. +2000~3000 Rs. with extra fans

This PC is gonna be used for 5+ years with not a lot of upgrades to it,except maybe a GTX 960 or something. It will be used for Games like GTA 5 ~ DOTA2 etc, I'm willing to admit that this will NOT run future games well or at all. Also for Adobe softwares (again its not professional, so not a lot of concern is needed for this area).

So based on this TL;DR post, please suggest a good AMD config build.

Thanks a bunch in advance^^

 

[hennybeartech]

CPU:fx 6300 8810
MB:msi 970 gaming motherboard 8180
HDD:toshiba 1 tb 7200 rpm 3620
PSU:seasonic s12 520w 5620
GPU: Asus strix r7 370 2gb 17995
CASE:Corsair Carbide 200r 4160
MONITOR: Benq 21.5inch LED Monitor 9130
Mouse and keyboard: Preference 2500
Total:60015

It went a little over, but This build will give you solid performance on 1080p High-ultra settings(or tweaked) at 60 FPS.
It will do all that you were aiming for.

if you want to do intel just get the i3 4160 and some h81m motherboard. then splurge the excess money with a better graphics card.

 

[Snake008]

CPU:fx 6300 8810
MB:msi 970 gaming motherboard 8180
HDD:toshiba 1 tb 7200 rpm 3620
PSU:seasonic s12 520w 5620
GPU: Asus strix r7 370 2gb 17995
CASE:Corsair Carbide 200r 4160
MONITOR: Benq 21.5inch LED Monitor 9130
Mouse and keyboard: Preference 2500
Total:60015

It went a little over, but This build will give you solid performance on 1080p High-ultra settings(or tweaked) at 60 FPS.
It will do all that you were aiming for.

if you want to do intel just get the i3 4160 and some h81m motherboard. then splurge the excess money with a better graphics card.

Hey thanks for the reply. I will definitely check out the stuff you mentioned. Couple of questions though can 750ti be used with this build? And what about the cooler? 212x will work? Also I already picked out a case, but I will check this one. Lastly isn't the fx 6300 better than the i3?

 

[hennybeartech]

The 750 ti can fit in this build if you want to cut costs, but the r7 370 is a very good step up from it.
The cooler, with some good overclocking on the cpu, the hyper 212 will do.
They perform about the same with the i3 beating the fx 6300 on some cpu intensive games. on multi cored games, the fx 6300 will pull ahead. they trade blows but its just 4-6 fps on average.

 

[Snake008]

The 750 ti can fit in this build if you want to cut costs, but the r7 370 is a very good step up from it.
The cooler, with some good overclocking on the cpu, the hyper 212 will do.
They perform about the same with the i3 beating the fx 6300 on some cpu intensive games. on multi cored games, the fx 6300 will pull ahead. they trade blows but its just 4-6 fps on average.

Oh okay, so its basically a competition for i3 but the i5 will pull ahead easily. On that note what about the 8230E not the 8230 but the "E" with the 750TI 2gb, will that be sufficient for the purpose? Because the GPU can be upgraded later to a 960 or something for budget purposes. I hear great things about the 750ti holding its own in graphic intensive games. And as for ram will the 1600mhz do or should I get 1866mhz? And I see that you mentioned a 520W PSU (will this be enough for the parts, especially since its AMD which might be mildly overclocked and I might add another hard disk in the future, so with that in mind is it a comfortable wattage? or is it cutting it too close?).

EDIT:

AMD Build AM3+ FX: 8320E

Case - Deepcool Pangu V2 Mid Tower Computer Case - 5055 Rs.
CPU - AMD FX 8320E - 11770 Rs.
MotherBoard - MSI 970 GAMING 32GB DDR3 AMD Motherboard - 8,180 Rs. or MSI 970A-G43 32GB (no onboard graphics) - 5505 Rs.
RAM - Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM - 3185 Rs.
PSU - Cooler Master B Series B600 - Rs. 4795
GPU - Asus Radeon R7 370 4gb DDR 5 - 16,405 Rs.
HDD - SEAGATE 1tb Barracuda 7200 rpm Rs. 3,630
SSD - 3,450 Rs. 120gb kingston v300
CPU Cooler - CM hyper 212x - 3195 Rs.
DVD writer - LG 24x DVD/CD R/W - Rs.1010
Monitor - Benq 21.5inch LED Monitor (GW2270H) Rs. 8,475
Keyboard & Mouse - 2,600 Rs.
+ 1,500 Rs. WIFI & Bluetooth USB.
= 73,250 Rs.
67250 with 750ti instead
and additonal -2,675 Rs. from 67,250 Rs. (750 ti 2gb) if MSI 970A-G43 32GB (no onboard graphics)
= 64,575 Rs.
and additonal -2,675 Rs. from 73,250 Rs.(Radeon r7 370 4gb DDR5) if MSI 970A-G43 32GB (no onboard graphics)
= 70,575 Rs.

IF FX 6300 (6 core)
64,575 Rs. - 11,770 Rs. (8 core) + 8810 (6 core) = 61,615 Rs. (750ti 2gb ddr5) Maybe less
70,575 Rs. - 11,770 Rs. (8 core) + 8810 (6 core) = 67,615 Rs. (r7 370 4gb ddr5) Maybe less

I don't think I can build a r7 370 right off the bat with the budget unless i chose the FX 6300. But this is basically what I put together using the 750ti.. Any suggestions and will this PSU be enough?

Intel build update:
Will an i3 4th gen with r7 370 be good?
Anyway this is the i5 4th gen 4460 build (With/without 212x cooler)

ATX Build MID TOWER - Max Budget 71k - Intel Build LLGA 1150

Case - Deepcool Pangu V2 Mid Tower Computer Case - 5055 Rs.
Motherboard - PCIe 3.0 x16 Asus B85M-G mATX- Rs.5955, MSI B85-G41 (ATX PCIe 3.0)- Rs. 6235
Processor - i5 4460 - 14,415 Rs.
PSU - Cooler Master B Series B600 - Rs. 4795
CPU Cooler - CM hyper 212x - 3195 Rs.
RAM - Crucial Ballistix 4GB DDR3 PC3-12800 Unbuffered NON-ECC 1.5V - RS. 1,560 x2 = Rs. 3,120.
DVD writer - LG 24x DVD/CD R/W - Rs.1010
HDD - SEAGATE 1tb Barracuda 7200 rpm Rs. 3,630
Total for 8 = 41,455 Rs.
+ 12,000 Rs. (graphics) or 16,405 Rs. R7 370 4gb DDR5
= 53,455 Rs. (750 Ti) - 3,195 without 212x (stock cpu cooler) = 50,260 Rs.
57,860 Rs.(Radeon R7 370 4gb ddr5) - 3,195 without 212x (stock cpu cooler) = 54,665 Rs.

50,260 (750ti Graphics Total) +
Monitor - Benq 21.5inch LED Monitor (GW2270H) Rs. 8,475
Keyboard & Mouse - 2,600 Rs.
1,500 Rs. WIFI & Bluetooth USB.
= 62,835 Rs. Maybe lesser.
+ SSD - 3,450 Rs. 120gb kingston v300
GRAND TOTAL = 66,285 Rs. Maybe Lesser.

54,665 (AMD Radeon r7 370 4gb DDR5 Graphics)
+
Monitor - Benq 21.5inch LED Monitor (GW2270H) Rs. 8,475
Keyboard & Mouse - 2,600 Rs.
1,500 Rs. WIFI & Bluetooth USB.
= 67,240 Rs.
+ SSD - 3,450 Rs. 120gb kingston v300
GRAND TOTAL = 70,690 Rs. Maybe lesser.

 

[Snake008]

Updated some info. Will any 4th gen i3 do well with r7 370 4gb? or a gtx 750ti?

 

[hennybeartech]

The PSU even with over clocking will be fine with the amd build for you. actually i was looking at the 620w for that one so that's a type and even then, its still good.

If you really want and intel, i would suggest you go with the skylake i3 6100 3.7 ghz, and an h b85 board or h110 boards. these are recent boards so it will mostly have what you are looking for. The skylake i3 6100 3.7 ghz is a very solid performer and this one has the longevity you are looking for and the AMD vishera cores are really showing their age, unless you wanna wait for the new zen next year. its a new procie and there are upgrade paths along those 6 years you're trying to future proof it with. if you want to see how it performs vs 4th gen i3 and fx 6300, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ejBlynOV8

as you can see in the video, with normal 2400 ddr4 rams it still pulls ahead of the competition, and with beefier ram, will pull ahead further on cpu intensive games.

as for graphics card, 750 ti is really a great card, and is a console killer already at 1080p, medium-high setting at the 40ish fps range. so if its what you really needed, then there is no need to contemplate.
For r7 370, this is a step up. it has enough power to give your friend orgasms on his games at 1080p high setting at 1080p, and if it can be bought within your budget, i highly recommend it. if you can't, then 750 ti with a good overclock will be fine

 

[Snake008]

ALWAYS AMD CPU PLUS AMD GPU FOR THE BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCKS. well, at least for mid range gpu and low-med cpus, they are. I suggest a 6300+r9 380 or a 8320+r9 290 if you can offer to pay a bit more. INTEL IS NEVER THE BEST VALUE even if it has the best performance.

Lol, I've never used AMD so I wouldn't know. But I do know that the AMD 6300 is ancient compared to intel 4th gen itself. In terms of driver updates/compatibility & future proofing I think intel might be the better choice as it gives room for upgrades whereas AMD doesn't. And going by a price/performance ratio I still feel the AMD 6300's build isn't that low on the budget compared to an i3 4th gen. Not to mention I can save by not getting the cooler for intel too.

 

[Snake008]

The PSU even with over clocking will be fine with the amd build for you. actually i was looking at the 620w for that one so that's a type and even then, its still good.

If you really want and intel, i would suggest you go with the skylake i3 6100 3.7 ghz, and an h b85 board or h110 boards. these are recent boards so it will mostly have what you are looking for. The skylake i3 6100 3.7 ghz is a very solid performer and this one has the longevity you are looking for and the AMD vishera cores are really showing their age, unless you wanna wait for the new zen next year. its a new procie and there are upgrade paths along those 6 years you're trying to future proof it with. if you want to see how it performs vs 4th gen i3 and fx 6300, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ejBlynOV8

as you can see in the video, with normal 2400 ddr4 rams it still pulls ahead of the competition, and with beefier ram, will pull ahead further on cpu intensive games.

as for graphics card, 750 ti is really a great card, and is a console killer already at 1080p, medium-high setting at the 40ish fps range. so if its what you really needed, then there is no need to contemplate.
For r7 370, this is a step up. it has enough power to give your friend orgasms on his games at 1080p high setting at 1080p, and if it can be bought within your budget, i highly recommend it. if you can't, then 750 ti with a good overclock will be fine

Thank you. Yes I indeed feel that the i3 6th gen makes more sense than the old 4th gen i5/i3 or AMD because I calculated the budget for them and it seems pretty high(compared to the i5 4th gen itself). I will share these information with him and let him decide, if it was me I would pick the 6th gen.
Now I need to build a 6th gen just in case he decides that's what he wants.