Question Pc Build for Video editing

[SBernas]

Hello!

I'm planning to build a PC for video editing.

Intel I7 12700 12 Cores
MOTHERBOARD ATX ASUS PROART B760 CREATOR D4
64GB 3200MHZ DDR4 CL16 DIMM (KIT OF 2) FURY BEAST BLACK
ASUS GEFORCE RTX 4070 DUAL OC 12GB
1TB SSD M.2 AData Gammix S11 Pro
Cooler CPU Ice 100 Mirror ARGB
PSU Eurotech 750W 80+ Bronze
Caixa ATX NTech Slayer RX22 Crystal

Is this PC build suitable for video editing?
Are there any alternative options within a similar price range that could offer better performance for video editing tasks?

 

[Ralston18]

Go back a couple of steps.

What video editing software do you plan to use?

What OS? What drive(s)?

Budget?

Most software manufacturers provide some listing with respect to hardware requirements.

Generally in the form of "minimal", "recommended", and "best".

You do not want "minimal" and you do want as much "best" as you can afford.

PSU - do not skimp on the PSU.

FYI:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

Use the software requirments to establish the hardware requirements and use the hardware requirements to size the PSU. Purchase a well reviewed and rated PSU. Will likely add some cost.

As a general assessment, for example, I would not expect a requirement for 64 GB RAM.

Disk drive(s) > 512 GB.

 

[SBernas]

Go back a couple of steps.

What video editing software do you plan to use?

What OS? What drive(s)?

Budget?

Most software manufacturers provide some listing with respect to hardware requirements.

Generally in the form of "minimal", "recommended", and "best".

You do not want "minimal" and you do want as much "best" as you can afford.

PSU - do not skimp on the PSU.

FYI:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-psus,4229.html

Use the software requirments to establish the hardware requirements and use the hardware requirements to size the PSU. Purchase a well reviewed and rated PSU. Will likely add some cost.

As a general assessment, for example, I would not expect a requirement for 64 GB RAM.

Disk drive(s) > 512 GB.

- Video Editing Software: Adobe Premiere and After Effects, with occasional use of Blender.

- Operating System: Windows.

- Disk Drive(s): 1TB SSD, considering adding a second for cache.

- Budget: 1500€ .

- RAM: I'm very inclined to 64GB as most of my coworkers who use 32GB tend to take a longer time in each edit.

- PSU: Will research based on the hardware requirements.

Thank you very much for sharing the link. I'll make sure to research better.

 

[Lafong]

You've chosen 12700F.

What is the price differential for these alternate choices and are they within your budget:

13600, all variants

13700, all variants

14600, all variants

14700, all variants

 

[Why_Me]

- Video Editing Software: Adobe Premiere and After Effects, with occasional use of Blender.

- Operating System: Windows.

- Disk Drive(s): 1TB SSD, considering adding a second for cache.

- Budget: 1500€ .

- RAM: I'm very inclined to 64GB as most of my coworkers who use 32GB tend to take a longer time in each edit.

- PSU: Will research based on the hardware requirements.

Thank you very much for sharing the link. I'll make sure to research better.

What country are you located?

 

[SBernas]

What country are you located?

Portugal

 

[SBernas]

You've chosen 12700F.

What is the price differential for these alternate choices and are they within your budget:

13600, all variants

13700, all variants

14600, all variants

14700, all variants

This are the lowest prices i could find of all the stores here for each variant

12700KF - 262,30€
12700K - 289,90€
12700F - 298,90€
12700 - 323,90€
13600KF - 309,80€
13600K - 324,70€
13700F - 389,00€
13700 - 410,00€
14600KF - 303,80€
14600K - 329,91€
14700F - 399,90€
14700KF - 411,89€
14700 - 432,00€
14700K - 449,90€

In order to upgrade i would have to lower on some other part (if you can advice in any part i would apprecaite it very much).
Based on the research i've been doing since i first started the thread i came up with the following set up:

Intel I7 12700F 12 Cores
MOTHERBOARD ATX ASUS PROART B760 CREATOR D4
64GB 3200MHZ DDR4 CL16 DIMM (KIT OF 2) FURY BEAST BLACK
PLACA GRÁFICA ASUS GEFORCE RTX 4070 DUAL OC 12GB
1TB SSD M.2 AData Gammix S11 Pro
Cooler CPU Ice 100 Mirror ARGB
Fonte Eurotech 750W 80+ Bronze
Caixa ATX NTech Slayer RX22 Crystal

Total price 1559€ (a little over the budget but i can manage this margin)

 

[Lafong]

Do you have a particular reason to choose the 12700F over the considerably cheaper 12700KF?

 

[SBernas]

Do you have a particular reason to choose the 12700F over the considerably cheaper 12700KF?

Mostly because of the store i was considering to buy all the components and pay for the assemble, as it is the cheapest on most components exept the processor , which for some reason the KF costs 322,90€ and the F costs 310,90€. If i felt confident in my assembling skills i would buy each component from each store, but as i don't feel confident to do so, i was compromising on that part. Any advice on how i should move forward?

 

[Satan-IR]

Not familiar with the manufacturer and don't know the OEM but as a general rule I would avoid a 48-dollar 750W PSU at any cost.

Personally, I would also get a cheaper GPU and spend the difference on a better motherboard and CPU. Unless you want to use it for gaming too.

 

[SBernas]

Not familiar with the manufacturer and don't know the OEM but as a general rule I would avoid a 48-dollar 750W PSU at any cost.

Personally, I would also get a cheaper GPU and spend the difference on a better motherboard and CPU. Unless you want to use it for gaming too.

Got it, avoiding a cheap PSU makes sense for long-term stability. Reallocating funds towards a better motherboard and CPU sounds like a solid plan. Which GPU would you recommend downgrading to in order to balance the budget?

 

[NedSmelly]

For video editing I’d avoid the F model CPU. QuickSync is very helpful in encode/decode and offers better quality than nvenc for some situations.

IMO you need more storage - much much more. As you mentioned, a secondary SSD for cache is desirable. Do you have an archive NAS/DAS?

 

[Satan-IR]

Got it, avoiding a cheap PSU makes sense for long-term stability. Reallocating funds towards a better motherboard and CPU sounds like a solid plan. Which GPU would you recommend downgrading to in order to balance the budget?

If you're not planning on playing games on very high resulutions at high frame rates I'd get one that's half the price. A 2070 maybe? I guess that's almost half the price of the 4070 you listed which is around $600. A typical 2070 is around $300.

I'd say $300-$600 towards a better CPU+MOBO+PSU would go a long way in a system used for video ediding with Adobe Premiere.

Also the 3000 series had massive transient spikes, I'm guessing the same with the 4000 series too? Maybe in long run or from the beginning a 4000 series causes problems with a 750W PSU unless you're not going to do gaming and taking the GPU to near-maximum peformance?

Not sure what the output from that editing software is called, the 'view port' or was the on some 3D animation software? If you're not planning on gaming and you want to see the software output/playback I think you can work with a CPU with integrated graphics and get a GPU at a later date altogether maybe. I'd also say don't get an F CPU so you get more encodeing power.

Also a lot depends on the resoultion of videos you want to work on. For full HD (1080p) and light 4K work 32GB RAM is enough but if you plan to do large 4K and above videos I think it is recommended to use 64GB. Depends on the size of the projects/videos too.

Blender although makes use of GPU power I think and having a GPU is a plus. Also if I'm not mistaken Adobe Premiere too makes advantage of GPU if you use gpu-intensive effects and also in real-time playback while editing and also in exporting to

Also if you plan to work on large files I'd get larger storage. Yes using one storage medium for caching is also a plus.

As suggested above I'd check Adobe requirements recommendations for Adobe Premiere too.

 

[NedSmelly]

If you're not planning on playing games on very high resulutions at high frame rates I'd get one that's half the price. A 2070 maybe? I guess that's almost half the price of the 4070 you listed which is around $600. A typical 2070 is around $300.

RTX 3060 12GB used to be a popular choice for freelance editors and 3D artists as it was the cheapest way to get 12GB vram. I use one with Davinci Resolve and it handles timeline, effects, and encode/decode competently.

 

[Satan-IR]

RTX 3060 12GB used to be a popular choice for freelance editors and 3D artists as it was the cheapest way to get 12GB vram. I use one with Davinci Resolve and it handles timeline, effects, and encode/decode competently.

Thanks for the info. I haven't had much recent hands on experience with Premiere. I did a bit of work with it some years back, during the Skylake era lol.

If memory serves right back then Premiere didn't take that much advantage of multicore but I think it does much better now.

 

[NedSmelly]

Thanks for the info. I haven't had much recent hands on experience with Premiere. I did a bit of work with it some years back, during the Skylake era lol.

If memory serves right back then Premiere didn't take that much advantage of multicore but I think it does much better now.

I haven’t used Premiere much either because of the pricing model. From what I read in Puget Systems’ blog, Premiere doesn’t scale proportionally with faster CPUs/GPUs either. Adobe has always been weird in that regard.

 

[SBernas]

For video editing I’d avoid the F model CPU. QuickSync is very helpful in encode/decode and offers better quality than nvenc for some situations.

IMO you need more storage - much much more. As you mentioned, a secondary SSD for cache is desirable. Do you have an archive NAS/DAS?

Thanks for the insight on the CPU choice. I've looked into it further, and it definitely seems wise to avoid the F model. Considering this, I'm leaning towards the i7 127000, especially since I don't plan on overclocking.

As for storage, you're absolutely right. I rely on external drives at the moment, but I recognize the need for more storage, particularly for video editing projects. While I don't have a NAS/DAS setup currently, it's something I'm actively considering for the future to enhance my storage.

 

[SBernas]

If you're not planning on playing games on very high resulutions at high frame rates I'd get one that's half the price. A 2070 maybe? I guess that's almost half the price of the 4070 you listed which is around $600. A typical 2070 is around $300.

I'd say $300-$600 towards a better CPU+MOBO+PSU would go a long way in a system used for video ediding with Adobe Premiere.

Also the 3000 series had massive transient spikes, I'm guessing the same with the 4000 series too? Maybe in long run or from the beginning a 4000 series causes problems with a 750W PSU unless you're not going to do gaming and taking the GPU to near-maximum peformance?

Not sure what the output from that editing software is called, the 'view port' or was the on some 3D animation software? If you're not planning on gaming and you want to see the software output/playback I think you can work with a CPU with integrated graphics and get a GPU at a later date altogether maybe. I'd also say don't get an F CPU so you get more encodeing power.

Also a lot depends on the resoultion of videos you want to work on. For full HD (1080p) and light 4K work 32GB RAM is enough but if you plan to do large 4K and above videos I think it is recommended to use 64GB. Depends on the size of the projects/videos too.

Blender although makes use of GPU power I think and having a GPU is a plus. Also if I'm not mistaken Adobe Premiere too makes advantage of GPU if you use gpu-intensive effects and also in real-time playback while editing and also in exporting to

Also if you plan to work on large files I'd get larger storage. Yes using one storage medium for caching is also a plus.

As suggested above I'd check Adobe requirements recommendations for Adobe Premiere too.

Thank you for the detailed recommendations.

While I don't intend to play games on this system, I've considered the suggestions regarding GPU selection carefully. Despite not gaming, I've opted for the 4070 due to its robust encoding/decoding capabilities, which align well with my video editing needs. Additionally, it provides room for future upgrades on the CPU side, which is a consideration for me.

Regarding the CPU choice, I agree that opting for a non-F CPU offers more encoding power, and I believe it can work synergistically with the GPU to enhance software performance.

The decision to go with 64GB of RAM was driven by my work with large 4K videos, where ample memory is essential for smooth operation.

As for storage, I currently plan to utilize the external storage I already have, although I acknowledge the potential benefits of investing in larger storage options in the future.

 

[SBernas]

RTX 3060 12GB used to be a popular choice for freelance editors and 3D artists as it was the cheapest way to get 12GB vram. I use one with Davinci Resolve and it handles timeline, effects, and encode/decode competently.

What CPU do you use?

 

[DSzymborski]

The PSU is a definitely no. It's barely a real 500W PSU; there's no reason a PC with a configuration like this should ever be turned on with this PSU connected. Unless maybe one was filming a YouTube video to show the dangers of using junk PSUs.

I don't think we should be talking spec/upgrades until a safe, proper PSU is in the mix.

 

[NedSmelly]

What CPU do you use?

Ryzen 3900X with 128GB RAM and 3060. Also a laptop with 12700H, 64GB RAM, and 3070Ti.

I have a secondary 2TB SSD in both systems and a QNAP TR004 in RAID5 as DAS.

 

[NedSmelly]

Another GPU to consider if you’re not gaming and OK with bleeding edge tech is an Intel Arc. Arc combined with Intel 12th+ gen CPU with integrated GPU will accelerate video encoding using Deep Link Hyper Encode.