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look at the height listed on the ram specs and compare it with the clearances listed on the cooler specs. that lets you know if they fit under.
however, if your'e only running two sticks its often the case that you arent using the ram slot right under the cooler so it doesnt apply. generally its more of an issue if you're running more than 2 ram sticks or huge coolers.
i always like to make a note of telling people about it though.
however, if your'e only running two sticks its often the case that you arent using the ram slot right under the cooler so it doesnt apply. generally its more of an issue if you're running more than 2 ram sticks or huge coolers.
i always like to make a note of telling people about it though.
Thanks for your answer !
I am currently considering changing my headset (I currently own a Logitech g430). I've seen a lot of posts saying that gaming headsets are overpriced and that you are better off with a pair of good headphones and a microphone (modmic for instance). What is your take on this ?
Will I increase audio quality by changing my headset ?
I've found some headphones (Beyerdynamic DT770 pro, Sennheiser hd558, Audio-Technica AH700) but first I don't really know if I should go for a closed or an open design, and then which mic to pair with it. Modmic idea is interesting but I am not really sure I'll like to deal with another cable.
Thank you in advance for your help !
Oberom
I am currently considering changing my headset (I currently own a Logitech g430). I've seen a lot of posts saying that gaming headsets are overpriced and that you are better off with a pair of good headphones and a microphone (modmic for instance). What is your take on this ?
Will I increase audio quality by changing my headset ?
I've found some headphones (Beyerdynamic DT770 pro, Sennheiser hd558, Audio-Technica AH700) but first I don't really know if I should go for a closed or an open design, and then which mic to pair with it. Modmic idea is interesting but I am not really sure I'll like to deal with another cable.
Thank you in advance for your help !
Oberom
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that is generally my opinion on it as well.
gaming headsets are fine and dandy... and certainly usable however if you want the best in quality hifi headphones are the route you need to go.
first a few questions:
-maximum budget?
-what are your thoughts on bass? do you require alot? is it okay if there is not much?
-are you in a loud environment where you need to shut out noise?
-do you have a soundcard?
-what kind of sound signature do you most enjoy? fairly neutral (most accurate), v-shaped (more exciting), more treble focused (advantageous in fps) or more bass focused (headbanging, but not as articulate as other signatures).
gaming headsets are fine and dandy... and certainly usable however if you want the best in quality hifi headphones are the route you need to go.
first a few questions:
-maximum budget?
-what are your thoughts on bass? do you require alot? is it okay if there is not much?
-are you in a loud environment where you need to shut out noise?
-do you have a soundcard?
-what kind of sound signature do you most enjoy? fairly neutral (most accurate), v-shaped (more exciting), more treble focused (advantageous in fps) or more bass focused (headbanging, but not as articulate as other signatures).
- max budget: currently, the sennheiser pc363d is at chf 250. So chf 200 (~usd 200) would be a good maximum. But it depends, if the few extra bucks allow to get something really great, then why not ?
- I like bass. Since I play a lot of bf4, I like to hear the blast of explosions, choppers flying by... But not too much, I don't want it to be unpleasant
- I am currently playing in a quiet environment but I might move in with my gf and I might not have a dedicated room for gaming. On a side note, are mechanical keyboards an issue for open design headphones ?
- I don't but I plan to buy a asus maximus VII ranger mobo. Can it do the job ?
- I have no idea. I want to be immersed in the atmosphere of the game but I really want a surround sound to be able to localize ennemies by the sound of their footsteps in fps.
Hope that helps
Thanks !
- I like bass. Since I play a lot of bf4, I like to hear the blast of explosions, choppers flying by... But not too much, I don't want it to be unpleasant
- I am currently playing in a quiet environment but I might move in with my gf and I might not have a dedicated room for gaming. On a side note, are mechanical keyboards an issue for open design headphones ?
- I don't but I plan to buy a asus maximus VII ranger mobo. Can it do the job ?
- I have no idea. I want to be immersed in the atmosphere of the game but I really want a surround sound to be able to localize ennemies by the sound of their footsteps in fps.
Hope that helps
Thanks !
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if you like bass, then i'd look at 3 options:
hd558 or hd518
dt770pro-80
dt990pro-250
the pc363d while good, is based on the hd595/hd555 which are a bit light on bass so might not be ideal if bass is something you value alot.
the hd558 (same drivers as the more expensive hd598 and lower cost 518) might be a decent option. its a little more bass than neutral (hd518 is a bit more than the 558 in this regard) while having a bit larger soundstage than the hd518 but not as much as the hd598. its not a "bassy" headphone but its going to offer more than the pc363d. the hd598 is also a fair choice over the pc, if you would like perfectly neutral sound signature. all are open with fair soundstages but this means they will leak some sound in and out as well though unless you're in a noisy atmosphere shouldnt be a problem.
the dt770 is a closed set of cans which means it will have less soundstage (airyness, 3d-effect) than open cans but will also block sound in/out. they are fairly bassy (but not cannons) and still do retain some decent treble clarity. v-shaped sound profile with slightly recessed mids. a good onboard soundcard can power them though some might need a cheap small amp like a fiio.
the dt990 is the best of both worlds. its open which means large soundstage, despite being open it also has good bass and it has good clarity. it will leak some sound in and out (due to being open). treble is very detailed and bright (though some might think detailed = fatiguing and bright = sharp, depends on your preferences) and bass is punchy. v-shaped sound profile with recessed mids (the 880 is neutral across the board). it does need a good amplifier though (at minimum a fiio e10k or similar... but the schiit magni is going to be the best choice.
if you want surround sound you want virtual surround. if you plan to use your onboard soundcard to process this, i'd make sure the ranger motherboard has dolby headphone or similar.
the modmic is a good microphone (one of the better clip on's you can buy for a fair price) and its noise cancellation works pretty decent. i think the new versions are omnidirectional though. another option would be to invest in a desktop mic like the snowball, atr2500 or similar which are cardioid (directional pickup). i'd keep it away from the mechanical keyboard though (which might make a modmic more ideal).
hd558 or hd518
dt770pro-80
dt990pro-250
the pc363d while good, is based on the hd595/hd555 which are a bit light on bass so might not be ideal if bass is something you value alot.
the hd558 (same drivers as the more expensive hd598 and lower cost 518) might be a decent option. its a little more bass than neutral (hd518 is a bit more than the 558 in this regard) while having a bit larger soundstage than the hd518 but not as much as the hd598. its not a "bassy" headphone but its going to offer more than the pc363d. the hd598 is also a fair choice over the pc, if you would like perfectly neutral sound signature. all are open with fair soundstages but this means they will leak some sound in and out as well though unless you're in a noisy atmosphere shouldnt be a problem.
the dt770 is a closed set of cans which means it will have less soundstage (airyness, 3d-effect) than open cans but will also block sound in/out. they are fairly bassy (but not cannons) and still do retain some decent treble clarity. v-shaped sound profile with slightly recessed mids. a good onboard soundcard can power them though some might need a cheap small amp like a fiio.
the dt990 is the best of both worlds. its open which means large soundstage, despite being open it also has good bass and it has good clarity. it will leak some sound in and out (due to being open). treble is very detailed and bright (though some might think detailed = fatiguing and bright = sharp, depends on your preferences) and bass is punchy. v-shaped sound profile with recessed mids (the 880 is neutral across the board). it does need a good amplifier though (at minimum a fiio e10k or similar... but the schiit magni is going to be the best choice.
if you want surround sound you want virtual surround. if you plan to use your onboard soundcard to process this, i'd make sure the ranger motherboard has dolby headphone or similar.
the modmic is a good microphone (one of the better clip on's you can buy for a fair price) and its noise cancellation works pretty decent. i think the new versions are omnidirectional though. another option would be to invest in a desktop mic like the snowball, atr2500 or similar which are cardioid (directional pickup). i'd keep it away from the mechanical keyboard though (which might make a modmic more ideal).
Ok, thanks for the input.
The DT 990 seems really nice. I actually have virtual surround sound and even an amp with the maximus ranger: see here. Will it be enough ?
Regarding the open design, do you hear a lot the mechanical switches ?
With the modmic, they actually still do unidirectionnal (along the new omnidirectionnals). However, I fear that I'll be annoyed by having two cables (one is sometimes too much 😀). But I'm more concerned with the noise cancellation and in particular the sound coming from the keyboard switches; I don't want my friends too hear them too much.
Thanks,
Delhu
The DT 990 seems really nice. I actually have virtual surround sound and even an amp with the maximus ranger: see here. Will it be enough ?
Regarding the open design, do you hear a lot the mechanical switches ?
With the modmic, they actually still do unidirectionnal (along the new omnidirectionnals). However, I fear that I'll be annoyed by having two cables (one is sometimes too much 😀). But I'm more concerned with the noise cancellation and in particular the sound coming from the keyboard switches; I don't want my friends too hear them too much.
Thanks,
Delhu
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technically all soundcards have amplifiers in them. what is important (at least in regards to the 990) is how powerful it is. the 990 250 ohm cans take a fair bit of juice to drive well. good onboard sound which lists a powerful amplifier might certainly power them (you would have to check) but i'm not sure how well (again, something you need to check). normally i list using an external amplifier with the 990's so that users are prepared to at least think about using one.
if you think your ranger can handle it, you can most certainly give it a try. if it doesnt, you can buy an external amplifier like i suggested before.
will you hear your keyboard? depends on just how loud your keyswitches are (you can quiet them with rubber o-rings if you did not know) and what volume you're listening at. some people dont hear such things, some people do. generally open headphones are suggested for soundstage and positional audio (since they excel at this) though if you're worried about sound leaking in perhaps closed are more for you.
if you're worried about two cables... then just sleeve them together. similar to what this person has done with their boom mic http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/josheatspeople/media/IMG_2463.jpg.html using cheap wire sleeving (available at most pc mod sites) and some shrink tube.
if you think your ranger can handle it, you can most certainly give it a try. if it doesnt, you can buy an external amplifier like i suggested before.
will you hear your keyboard? depends on just how loud your keyswitches are (you can quiet them with rubber o-rings if you did not know) and what volume you're listening at. some people dont hear such things, some people do. generally open headphones are suggested for soundstage and positional audio (since they excel at this) though if you're worried about sound leaking in perhaps closed are more for you.
if you're worried about two cables... then just sleeve them together. similar to what this person has done with their boom mic http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/josheatspeople/media/IMG_2463.jpg.html using cheap wire sleeving (available at most pc mod sites) and some shrink tube.
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well, if you feel like paying $300-350 for dt990 premiums instead of $200 for the pros when honestly there is little difference between them. the pro is only available in 250, the premiums are 32/250/600. for the price you'd pay for a 32, you could easily have a nice amp for the 250's (the 250 will sound better anyways). the ONLY reason to go for the premiums is for the 600ohm version... imho.
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the differences between the premium and pro are not many. heres a list:
-premium has a bit less clamp to the headband
-premium is a bit more airy sounding but has less bass
-premium has slightly different earcup cover design for aesthetics
-premium is available in 32/250/600 not just 250 like the pro
thats about it. the 250ohm pro is going to sound about equal to the 250ohm premium (other than less bass more airy as described above) though it will sound better than a 32ohm premium. keep in mind that just because it is 32ohm does not mean that it can be driven by just anything: while it is certainly easier to drive than 250ohm cans it isnt "easy" to drive.
if you went with premiums, i'd get the 600's and a nice amp to make it worthwhile. otherwise, i'd stay with the pro since they are more for your money. your choice of course.
i think you pretty much settled on the dt990's then?
while its not "entirely" accurate i'd listen to some sample tracks on http://www.sonicsense.com/resourcecenter/app/audio?preset=over_ear_headphones&source=result&track=beyerdynamic_dt990600 to compare the different headphones. its not going to sound "exactly" as they will on your current speakers/headphones but will let you see how sets compare with one another. specifically note the headphones listed above.
-premium has a bit less clamp to the headband
-premium is a bit more airy sounding but has less bass
-premium has slightly different earcup cover design for aesthetics
-premium is available in 32/250/600 not just 250 like the pro
thats about it. the 250ohm pro is going to sound about equal to the 250ohm premium (other than less bass more airy as described above) though it will sound better than a 32ohm premium. keep in mind that just because it is 32ohm does not mean that it can be driven by just anything: while it is certainly easier to drive than 250ohm cans it isnt "easy" to drive.
if you went with premiums, i'd get the 600's and a nice amp to make it worthwhile. otherwise, i'd stay with the pro since they are more for your money. your choice of course.
i think you pretty much settled on the dt990's then?
while its not "entirely" accurate i'd listen to some sample tracks on http://www.sonicsense.com/resourcecenter/app/audio?preset=over_ear_headphones&source=result&track=beyerdynamic_dt990600 to compare the different headphones. its not going to sound "exactly" as they will on your current speakers/headphones but will let you see how sets compare with one another. specifically note the headphones listed above.
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a minor clarification.... the e10k is a dac/amp... i meant something like the e09k (or e11, e12) which are amplifiers only. since (i'm assuming here, correct me if i'm wrong) you plan on using your motherboard's audio onboard (for virtual surround?) an amp only would be better. an external dac/amp like the e10k is good in its own right however you might lose out on virtual surround support and its not compatible with consoles which is why a regular external amp would be better for you i believe.
it is possible to use such a setup on consoles (minus any surround sound support). on the ps4 you could adapt from the controller headset port, or on any console you could use something like the xjacker or a usb headset adapter. there are many people using hifi headphones on console though i cant guide you through it with specifics since i do not do this myself. i do know that its quite possible (and also possible to use a modmic or other 3.5mm mic as well though again i havent done this myself).
it is possible to use such a setup on consoles (minus any surround sound support). on the ps4 you could adapt from the controller headset port, or on any console you could use something like the xjacker or a usb headset adapter. there are many people using hifi headphones on console though i cant guide you through it with specifics since i do not do this myself. i do know that its quite possible (and also possible to use a modmic or other 3.5mm mic as well though again i havent done this myself).
Ok thanks for the clarification. Then e11k it is !
One question though, not dac needed with the ps4 ?
Now let's assume that I have around $200 more to spent on my rig. What should I upgrade ? Go for the 980 ti ? Water cooling ? Better RAM ? More SSD storage ? Or something else ?
Thank you in advance !
One question though, not dac needed with the ps4 ?
Now let's assume that I have around $200 more to spent on my rig. What should I upgrade ? Go for the 980 ti ? Water cooling ? Better RAM ? More SSD storage ? Or something else ?
Thank you in advance !
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