Question PC freezes and restarts, no event log, only kernel 41 critical ?

[mortents]

Fairly new build, has been mostly good (some ingame issues), no freeze/restart for 1 month of gaming.

This passed week ive gotten freeze and pc restart .
This seems to start after the ambient temperature in room rise with hot weather. some days 0-1 crash some days it just keep crashing.

Ive done most if not all of the easy troubleshooting:
GPU,CPU,BIOS drivers all latest.
Monitoring temperaturs (all show fine (gpu ram tops at 75C, CPU tops at SOC 52)
SSD test, Ram rest. removed 1 ram and testet in multiple ram location slots.
Windows 11 fixes like /Scannow and all of those + even Windows 11 in place upgrade.
Power managment (HDD turn off to 0minutes, CPU max ussaged reduced from 100%).
Changed power cord, testet with different monitors and cables.

BIOS: Turned off PBO,CBP,C-State controller. Tried to set CPU to different fixed voltages. EXPO turned off.

So i dont have spare parts to test gotta start buying stuff to see what to replace to make the fix, but hope for help to figure out where i should start.

The first crash is always after game for a little time (1-8 hours), but then i can get multiple or neverending crashes that can happend in bios, in windows installing an update or starting game.
If i crash in bios does that rule out SSD failure and Software ?

Where to start and what can i rule out?.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VENTUS 3X OC 16GB
Case: DUTZO C731 Mesh TG ARGB
Cooler: ID-cooling FROZN 620 Argb
MB: MSI B650 Gaming plus WiFi
RAM: Team Group T-Force Delta DDR5-6000MHz - 32GB - CL30
PSU: Cooler Master XG850 850W PSU - 80 Plus Platinum
NV3 Gen 4 M.2 SSD med 2 TB

 

[Dean0919]

Make sure CPU cooler is sitting well. I have read about case on other forum where user was experiencing freezes, crashes and restarts and it turned out that cooler wasn't sitting well or some physical contact was the issue, or something like that. Just inspect the case, make sure everything is sitting properly and there's not contact issues with parts.

 

[DaleH]

Fairly new build, has been mostly good (some ingame issues), no freeze/restart for 1 month of gaming.

This passed week ive gotten freeze and pc restart .
This seems to start after the ambient temperature in room rise with hot weather. some days 0-1 crash some days it just keep crashing.

Ive done most if not all of the easy troubleshooting:
GPU,CPU,BIOS drivers all latest.
Monitoring temperaturs (all show fine (gpu ram tops at 75C, CPU tops at SOC 52)
SSD test, Ram rest. removed 1 ram and testet in multiple ram location slots.
Windows 11 fixes like /Scannow and all of those + even Windows 11 in place upgrade.
Power managment (HDD turn off to 0minutes, CPU max ussaged reduced from 100%).
Changed power cord, testet with different monitors and cables.

BIOS: Turned off PBO,CBP,C-State controller. Tried to set CPU to different fixed voltages. EXPO turned off.

So i dont have spare parts to test gotta start buying stuff to see what to replace to make the fix, but hope for help to figure out where i should start.

The first crash is always after game for a little time (1-8 hours), but then i can get multiple or neverending crashes that can happend in bios, in windows installing an update or starting game.
If i crash in bios does that rule out SSD failure and Software ?

Where to start and what can i rule out?.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VENTUS 3X OC 16GB
Case: DUTZO C731 Mesh TG ARGB
Cooler: ID-cooling FROZN 620 Argb
MB: MSI B650 Gaming plus WiFi
RAM: Team Group T-Force Delta DDR5-6000MHz - 32GB - CL30
PSU: Cooler Master XG850 850W PSU - 80 Plus Platinum
NV3 Gen 4 M.2 SSD med 2 TB

To confirm or deny that it is temperature related, open the case and have an external fan blowing on the motherboard.

 

[K77X]

Does your motherboard show anything on the EZ Debug LED when it freezes and you have to fully restart?
What are the DRAM/SSD temps before it crashes?

 

[johnbl]

if you can not figure this out I would
reduce the gpu MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VENTUS 3X OC 16GB
overclock to the standard clock rate for the 5080

you should also tell us what monitor you are using and at what resolution and refresh rate. (multi monitor, or high resolution monitor/ wide monitor at a high refresh rate will pull more power)

you should also indicate if you are using the stable nvidia drivers or the game ready drivers (i have found the beta/game drivers use more power)

My guess is too much power is being used by the GPU and it triggers the motherboard power protection circuit. That circuit will reset the CPU and no bugcheck dump will be made. You will only see a 41 power error on the reboot. (maybe a bugcheck after the reboot if you have a poor power supply)

anyway, try lowering the power use of the gpu. reduce, Maybe disable the GPU sound if you are not have speakers connected to your monitor (or not using sound via video cable)

too much powerer used by the gpu thru the pci/e bus will trigger the motherboard power protection circuits.
this can happen if your external power connections to the gpu do not provide proper power. (in that case the needed power comes from the pci/e)
note: only good motherboards will reboot in this case. cheap ones will melt the pci/e connector and may catch fire.

 

[digitaldata77]

In my experience with brand new builds I found that running the Motherboard GPU and CPU at stock default settings for the first run with games etc has worked best for me. Then tweak the system gradually for best performance but stay within the hardware's operating parameters. I use Auto overclock settings in most situations with no operating system or hardware issues. Some people overdrive the system with too high overclock settings and have all kind of issues like this one and worse . I hope you can resolve the issues affecting your PC and get back to enjoying its performance. Cheers.