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I don't mind copy protection. I just wish they had the copy protection on the CD to make it run. Why do you need to input the code individually on your computer when they should just generate it on the cd as it is being burned. If it detects an identical copy then it won't run (blizzard does this with their games). I do get annoyed if I rebuild a system that I have to hunt for my cd, key code, etc.

I disagree PC gaming is dead. . I like the variety of PC gaming. Not everything falls into RTS and FPS games. It has its niche market if you look.
 


Rise of nations is bad ass, yeah if you like historical based RTS games, rise of nations is a must I still play it. Get the expansion thrones and patriots as well.
 

yep, but it makes good conversation :)

pc gaming is going down because the companies are becoming jerks


they make games that may look good but the gameplay sucks
and on top of that, they make it so hard to run that 90% of the PC's out there cant run it


wow a thousand people pirate your game, stop bitching about a thousand potential sales which (they wouldn't have bought it anyway)

focus more on the 2.8 billion potential sales you lost by making the game impossible to run

(not saying make them look like crap, but i am sure every pc gamer is willing to give up some graphics if it will bring about many more gamers and more pc games as it will once again become a popular gaming platform )

i understand making a game look good, but if the gameplay sucks then no one will want it. especially if they cant run the game maxed out,

of a game looks good but has crappy gameplay then the users who don't have top of the line pc's wont want it because if they cant max it out then they don't get the joy of all of the eye candy which was the main focus of the game, and they don't get good gameplay because the developers only focused on graphics.
so for the users who don't have top of the line, the games are basically worthless to them,

would you pay for something thats worthless or would you pirate it?

 


Oh, in my opinion, it is still alive and kicking. The last version was released in December 2003, which would be old for any normal game, but NetHack is no normal game.

People need to quit judging a game by its graphics or technology. When a game is truly good, gameplay and depth of content is always there. The graphics and sounds are only decorations.

NetHack has gameplay and depth of content. The controls, although a bit difficult to learn, are unique, extremely fast and easy once you know the commands. It turns many people off, though, but that's not NetHack's main point.

**********ing depth of **********ing content. *************************************! It's unbelievable! This game has everything: stats, leveling, tools, food, magic, fighting, riding, exploring, lighting, hundreds of monsters, hundreds of pieces of equipments, potions, wands, scrolls, spellbooks, shops, shopkeepers, rings, effects, turns, speed, familiars, fighting, treasures, traps, over a dozen different jobs, easter eggs by the shovel, interactions between everything, curses and blessings, a storyline, a legend, a challenge, EVERYTHING, and I surely forget some features!

NetHack is a game that has been polished more than any other game, ever. It seems almost intelligent. It detects absolutely unbelievable, silly combinations a player would try to do and reacts accordingly. As they say, "the devs think of everything". In fact, the bug list sometimes contains whacky gems such as:

"Dying from kicking a closed drawbridge gives you a message about a wall."
"Hero polymorphed into quantum mechanic and swallowed on no-teleport level gets no feedback if swallower is teleported away." (Yes, the "HUH?!" reaction is normal here)
"Cutting a long worm in half with a drawbridge can cause a panic."

Anyhow, NetHack isn't the only game I play. The PC benefits from being an open architecture with a wide variety of both free and paying games based on all kinds of technologies and of all kinds of complexity. Flash games (N!), web-based browser games (PARDUS! <3), commercial games (which I don't play much, though, but Starcraft is a fine example), emulators (Faxanadu! Chrono Trigger! all the classics!), free games (Battle of Wesnoth! Cave Story! Some MMOs!), not to forget all the OTHER things you can do on a PC. Commercial games are just a tiny, more or less entertaining part of the whole picture.

PC gaming, dead? Ludicrous. Impossible. Unfathomable. Preposterous. Etc. Now, if you said that the PC gaming INDUSTRY is dead, well... Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. One thing is sure, though... I don't need commercial games. And looking at GameFaq's top 50 with its 3 PC games, I guess I'm not the only one not to care about commercial games...
 
it's getting real hard to find pc games in stores now. both best buy's by me are barebones on pc games, yet the console isles are expanding. one has only one side of one isle for pc games (used to have 1.5 aisles or 3 sides) and the other has about 1.5 sides or almost a full aisle for pc games. the latest and greatest are always there but good luck finding some older ones. also, the circuit city has hardly anything, and they are just thrown in back with no organization (alpha or genre please). I felt like a hobo going through a dumpster searching for a game. pc gaming gets no respect in the retail stores. console games are all neatly organized and displayed properly and have like 20 kids working those aisles to help you find whatever you need. pc has become the rodney dangerfield of gaming platforms - no respect.

plus i just wasted $25 on tiger woods 08 yesterday. it sucks. xbox version has more features and better graphics. plus the pc version is basically broken. i turn down setting from highest to lowest and it still has a 5 second pause for every shot i take. embarrasing. plus it only uses one core of my cpu. ea spent about 2 days porting over the xbox version and it shows. i would have been better off spending the extra $15 on xbox version. thank god valve, iw and relic are still around. i've been playing a lot of orange box and company of hereos on pc and loving every minute of it.
 
I have heard in the past MS may not release another xbox. Understandable after how poorly they made the 360, and the billions they have lost with it. How long could even MS last loosing billions, its just not worth it.

I do love my xbox, but having to deal with store warranty's or MS is just not fun.

EA sucks guys, they have sucked since 007 nightfire, which was ok.

MS really seems to be pushing games for windows too.
 
I think the types of games determine if they favor the PC or consoles. The more in depth and higher learning curves favor the PC. Simple games with few controls favor iconsoles.

The reality is that developers need to make games that will sell. A console is easy to design for as all machines that your game will run on are identical. The same can not be said for the pc. Also the PC developers have problems with following standards or they have to deal with numerous competing standards.

PC gaming is far from dead, but it is the independents who do better on the PC. They form a niche for their games, respond to their customers and care about producing a quality product else they go out of business. Wargames (combat mission) and simulations (harpoon and flight simulators) fall into this niche category.
 
A long time ago in a land not to far away the same was said when PS 2 was King and The Sega Console wasn't so dead.
For about $500 you can build yourself a PC with Windows that can run Crysis on Medium. A $100.00 more and you can do Wii Remote and a Home Entertainment System including DVR. This doesn't include the Monitor but 360 doesn't come with a Monitor either. PC is just coming into it's own and the question isn't if "The PC Gaming is Dead." but "Who are what will become the next Sega Genesis?"
 
I've played quite a few good games in the last twelve months. Bioshock was excellent (though you'll hear a ton about the DRM), World in Conflict, Crysis, The Witcher, CoD4, and Exteel (Semi-Free but hell of a lot of fun).
There's also quite a few games I haven't played yet because my past computer couldn't run them. 2008 is shaping up to be a pretty jam packed Gaming season for me.
For 2008 there is quite a few games that will shake up the Console market as they are pretty much PC only. Then we have Blizzard's Starcraft 2 on the Horizon and I'm pretty sure this will begin the death note of the consoles as we know them.
A decent Gaming PC will cost roughly a $100.00 more to build than a Playstation 3, we have the Wii Remote that is already being ported over to the PC, Microsoft is already porting most of their 360 Items over to Vista, and then you have ReactOS that will probably be the missing niche and the Sony PS3 Savior (if they get smart).
I doubt if we ever see another console from Microsoft. To much of a loss and really most of us would just rather them put out bitchen ass Games and Software and leave the building of the Hardware to the Gamers.
We Love our Rigs and I think Microsoft understands that.
By god man load up Warcraft 3 but don't play Uno!

 
play wow (world of warcraft) and u'll never need any other game and worship blizzard for giving us the best possible games like diablo1,2 (the no 1 rank holder game in game history ever), starcraft, warcraft1,2,3 and world of warcraft that is played by 10 million ppl that too when its released in very few countries as well as they pay 15 dollors per month to play it... 10 million ppl... think buddy... they all cant be crazy :) just to say few words on it... its damn easy to start playing but there are no limits to what heights you can go... anyone can just start playing it even with below average IQ... very smooth and easy and comfortable interface and yes its damn addictive... so just beware... but if u play wow then u wont ever have to look for any other game... its a fun virtual world
 


I'm guessing you play WoW...

Personally I think it's stupid to pay a monthly fee. Also I am boycotting EA since they scarred the NASCAR racing sim so badly and held onto the licensing. There are a ton of games out there, more than I could ever pick from actually.
 
I've been a long time PC / Console gamer, but my console gaming days have died off.

Games bore me for the most part these days...

The only reason I console games was for Gran Turismo and for the range of final fantasy games. Good old Top Gear for Super Nintendo was always a riot, loved the megaman series etc...

I have done tons of playing PC games, primarily RTS games like Warcraft 2, Total Annihilation, Supreme Commander, Sins of a Solar Empire, Galactic Civilizations, Ceaser, Civ 1-4 etc along with games like Space Quest, Police Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, X-wing vs Tie fighter, Flight Sim, Janes, F22 Lightning, Rainbow Six, Counter-Strike, Half-life 1-2, Farcry, The Sims, Sim City, Star Wars Galaxies, Everquest, Ultima Online, you name it I've probably played it...if I havent either I missed a Gem, or it wasn't worth playing.

I have wasted countless hours playing games...

Games these days I can usually play for ~2 hours before getting bored and not wanting to continue. I honeslty think it is because there is limited to no originality in games and when you have played as many as I have things start getting repetetive...so no 1 game will give me my "fix".

Lately games that are more graphical I have been inclined to play, however, if they lack creativity I get bored with the shiny graphics in a very small window of time.

I like wide-scope and diverse games. Currently I am playing Sins of a Solar Empire and Supreme Commander, with hopes for SPORE to fix my creativity and graphics needs.

So is PC gaming dead? I think gaming for me in general is pretty dead...

That being said, gaming will continue to live on amongst the younger crowds so in order to entice people to gaming you need to target that audience. Most companies like Nintendo have realized this and are really doing well. The problem with computers is that it is more expensive and harder to for parents to justify a high end gaming machine when you can buy a cheapy console.

I personally think that games like SPORE will re-ignite the PC industry, that and lower pricing for mid-range computing will definitly create some new hype.

My ideal job would be overseeing a game project from concept to production.

I personally would like to see some MMORTS games, I have some game concepts of the like that would work very well, including both the individual gameplay desired by some as well as the "team" based strategy and player command/squad concepts that allow "leaders" in the game to issue rough strategy plans to their units (other players) and then those players can comply or do something different...

Basically a game that would incorporate more massive team strategy, real-time. So something like Sins of a Solar Empire, except that you have your own ship, or you can command other players with teams of ships, or even be a privateer/smuggler and hack/steal information and technology from other factions and sell it to others. Espionage and stuff.

PC Gaming isn't dead, its just waiting for the next great idea to come along to inspire design and playability on a level that most consoles cannot maintain, and if they can, they might as well just be PCs.

My 2 cents.
 
while it may be true thap pc gaming is getting ready for the next big idea, that idea will never be found since it is almost impossible getting a job in the gaming field and game companies never listen to the people so new ideas never happen
 


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What the hell? If this were the case there would never be any innovation in PC games but that is demonstrably false. If you need a list of games that broke the mold over the years I could probably muster one up, but really, I shouldn't need to.
 

wasn't genesis the only successful system sega put out in the states? I mean Saturn never got a foothold here, and DC died out within a year. Genesis as I recall had a good run.
 
When Sega Genesis and Nintendo were at their peak there was a lot of commotion that the PC Gaming was dead. This topic of PC Gaming being dead has been around for a little over 15 years. Sega Genesis, PlayStation 2, X-Box, and now we are here all without PC Gaming being dead. By all acounts there shouldn't even be a PC anymore but here we are. Even back then the PC did to much for it to be killed and now it does even more. With Speech Recognition being ingrained into Vista, Bluetooth enabled devices, and soon SSD the PC is just going to become more ingrained into what we do and how we do it. Can you ever see the X-box 360 or Playstation 3 doing everything your PC can do and better? Not only that but the games that do come out on PC are usually filled with content that X-box 360 and Playstation 3 users dream about. Then you have Starcraft 2 coming out, all the MMORPG's, and the fact that most PC titles allow players to create there very own modifications which just enriches the game even further. When I go to a store I don't have to wade through endless streams of crappy titles to try and find that precious jewel like I would if I just had an X-box 360 or Playstation 3. Furthermore when a PC title comes out and it is of excellent character that developer and producer are rewarded and if they put out a crappy title they are harshly punished. Blizzard has put out quality games from the start and for it they have been rewarded unlike any other. Further they are an all PC Gaming Company and will continue to be so.
Unlike Console Gamers, PC Gamers demand excellence.
That is the difference and that is why PC Gaming will never be dead.
It wasn't dead 15 years ago, it hasn't died between then and now, and it won't die in the near future.
PC Gaming has and always will be the future.
That's the harsh truth that Console Players just don't like to hear.
But it's the truth none the less.


 
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