Question PC Part Help (New pc or upgrade)

[Dropment]

My current pc specs are:
5700x
NZXT T120 rgb cooler
b450 matx mobo
3600cl14
rtx 3070
650w psu
NZXT H400i

I have asked for pc parts for Xmas this year, those being:
Antec C5
Arctic liquid freeze 360 argb
1tb gen 4x4 ssd
corsair rm1000e psu
Maybe 6000cl30 ram

I am stuck in a position where I can stay on AM4 and buy a new gpu (4070ti super/4080 super/5080) or buy new cpu, mobo, and ram. (9800x3d,B650,6000cl30). I play games in 1440p and have a 240hz monitor that I want to take advantage of.
Please give your input on what I should do!

 

[triplex1]

My current pc specs are:
5700x
NZXT T120 rgb cooler
b450 matx mobo
3600cl14
rtx 3070
650w psu
NZXT H400i

I have asked for pc parts for Xmas this year, those being:
Antec C5
Arctic liquid freeze 360 argb
1tb gen 4x4 ssd
corsair rm1000e psu
Maybe 6000cl30 ram

I am stuck in a position where I can stay on AM4 and buy a new gpu (4070ti super/4080 super/5080) or buy new cpu, mobo, and ram. (9800x3d,B650,6000cl30). I play games in 1440p and have a 240hz monitor that I want to take advantage of.
Please give your input on what I should do!

stay on AM4 (and wait) and change only the mb with b550 , 5700x is very good cpu (it also works with 4090)

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Agreed. New cpu. With potential tariffs on computer parts coming up now may be the time to buy the gpu.

 

[Dropment]

I think those tariffs will be put in place at the end of January. It all depends if I get the ddr5 ram. If I dont then upgrading the gpu and maybe mobo would be better?

 

[triplex1]

first the motherboard and then the card, you don't need to go to AM5
They come up with new platforms every 6 months to raise money.
In spoiler i have ASRock B550 Extreme4-Ryzen 7 5700X

 

[Dropment]

Can you explain the difference between b450 and b550? I just looked at pricing they are almost similar to a b650 .

 

[triplex1]

Better support for the RAMs you have and better support for PCI Express x16 4.0

 

[dcvikes]

I would not change the mainboard at all (see my specs) - there is a thread here where an OP asks about PCIe 3.0 vs. 4.0 and someone responded with 5-10 frames difference at best. It's more like 1-2-3 frames and that's only at specific times - it's 85-90% of the time the exact same FPS. The real difference is PCIe 4.0 with storage transfers as PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 bootup time only has about 1/3 of a second difference and 1/2 second of game level loading difference (game depending).

 

[triplex1]

I'm going to ask a question and this is : who is the 450 motherboard you currently have?
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[Dropment]

My mobo doe support PCIe 4.0 for m.2 but yes I would end up using a 4070ti super on PCIe 3.0 x16 lane if I do go that route which I might
I have a Asus Tuf b450m-Plus Gaming

 

[triplex1]

My mobo doe support PCIe 4.0 for m.2 but yes I would end up using a 4070ti super on PCIe 3.0 x16 lane if I do go that route which I might
I have a Asus Tuf b450m-Plus Gaming

PCIE x4 mode is Gen 3 not 4
I think some of you want to mince my brains.
A good B550 motherboard costs 150 - 200 euros or dollars.
Find someone and sell the 450 you have.
Also, with the cards you mentioned earlier and I believe that you only play games, I would go for a 7900xtx and I would pay less and I would be better off......someone should stop this nonsense with Nvidia at some point, unless you like throwing money away.

 

[dcvikes]

If your motherboard is dialed in well I would keep using it. Meaning no BSOD's - no reboots - ram working perfectly-stable FPS. A regular 4070 or4070 Super at 1440p would be the max GPU I would use with a 5700x unless @ 4k.

 

[Dropment]

My pc is stable I do have my ram overclocked and cpu overclocked. I mostly COD and I do want to get over 240fps because I have a 1440p 240hz monitor.

 

[dcvikes]

If you're actually chasing a constant 240 FPS like an eSPORTS competitive gamer would then yes, a complete platform upgrade is what I would do. 7800X3D/9800X3D with an RTX 4080/4090.

 

[Dropment]

I am going to revisit this after XMAS! As of now the gpu upgrade is the best option. Given I get any giftcards I will see what I have to spend. Maybe a platform upgrade will happen and I can decide on if I get 5080 or not but thats for another time. Thanks for helping me

 

[ilukey77]

personally i would leave the 5700x , mobo , ram as is !!

upgrade the psu ( something 1200w for 2 reasons overkill and the 50 series will use more power) the gpu to a 50 series if you want ..

You dont need to go a 360aio on a 5700x but a Thermalright phantom evo 120 dual tower will cool the 5700x easy ..

That said a 360mm aio will do well cooling the 7800x3d and 9800x3d so if thats a upgrade path buy now save later ( arctic freezer ii or iii are still best price to performance AIOs on the market ) ( arctic freezer iii rgb is prettier)

After you have secured your new PSU GPU next year take a closer look at CPU mobo ddr5 upgrade x670e will be fine if its decent for the 7800x3d or 9800x3d ( rumours say zen 6 will be possible on AM5 so i cant see why x670e boards couldnt be used )

As it stands now Zen 5 doesnt really gain much from anything better then cl30 6000 ddr 5

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I would not touch the motherboard. Leave it alone.

Sink as much into gpu as you can and roll with that. Stuff I’ve seen the difference in most games between pci e gen 3 vs 4 isn’t much. I would roll with the board until you go new platform then you can sell as a kit.

 

[Dropment]

I can either get a 4070ti super or wait for 5000 series to come out. I will be having a matx board in an atx case which sucks but its okay until i buy new cpu,mobo and ram