Question PC Part Help (New pc or upgrade)

[Dropment]

My current pc specs are:
5700x
NZXT T120 rgb cooler
b450 matx mobo
3600cl14
rtx 3070
650w psu
NZXT H400i

I have asked for pc parts for Xmas this year, those being:
Antec C5
Arctic liquid freeze 360 argb
1tb gen 4x4 ssd
corsair rm1000e psu
Maybe 6000cl30 ram

I am stuck in a position where I can stay on AM4 and buy a new gpu (4070ti super/4080 super/5080) or buy new cpu, mobo, and ram. (9800x3d,B650,6000cl30). I play games in 1440p and have a 240hz monitor that I want to take advantage of.
Please give your input on what I should do!

 

[triplex1]

My current pc specs are:
5700x
NZXT T120 rgb cooler
b450 matx mobo
3600cl14
rtx 3070
650w psu
NZXT H400i

I have asked for pc parts for Xmas this year, those being:
Antec C5
Arctic liquid freeze 360 argb
1tb gen 4x4 ssd
corsair rm1000e psu
Maybe 6000cl30 ram

I am stuck in a position where I can stay on AM4 and buy a new gpu (4070ti super/4080 super/5080) or buy new cpu, mobo, and ram. (9800x3d,B650,6000cl30). I play games in 1440p and have a 240hz monitor that I want to take advantage of.
Please give your input on what I should do!

stay on AM4 (and wait) and change only the mb with b550 , 5700x is very good cpu (it also works with 4090)

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Agreed. New cpu. With potential tariffs on computer parts coming up now may be the time to buy the gpu.

 

[Dropment]

I think those tariffs will be put in place at the end of January. It all depends if I get the ddr5 ram. If I dont then upgrading the gpu and maybe mobo would be better?

 

[triplex1]

first the motherboard and then the card, you don't need to go to AM5
They come up with new platforms every 6 months to raise money.
In spoiler i have ASRock B550 Extreme4-Ryzen 7 5700X

 

[Dropment]

Can you explain the difference between b450 and b550? I just looked at pricing they are almost similar to a b650 .

 

[triplex1]

Better support for the RAMs you have and better support for PCI Express x16 4.0

 

[dcvikes]

I would not change the mainboard at all (see my specs) - there is a thread here where an OP asks about PCIe 3.0 vs. 4.0 and someone responded with 5-10 frames difference at best. It's more like 1-2-3 frames and that's only at specific times - it's 85-90% of the time the exact same FPS. The real difference is PCIe 4.0 with storage transfers as PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 bootup time only has about 1/3 of a second difference and 1/2 second of game level loading difference (game depending).

 

[triplex1]

I'm going to ask a question and this is : who is the 450 motherboard you currently have?
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[Dropment]

My mobo doe support PCIe 4.0 for m.2 but yes I would end up using a 4070ti super on PCIe 3.0 x16 lane if I do go that route which I might
I have a Asus Tuf b450m-Plus Gaming

 

[triplex1]

My mobo doe support PCIe 4.0 for m.2 but yes I would end up using a 4070ti super on PCIe 3.0 x16 lane if I do go that route which I might
I have a Asus Tuf b450m-Plus Gaming

PCIE x4 mode is Gen 3 not 4
I think some of you want to mince my brains.
A good B550 motherboard costs 150 - 200 euros or dollars.
Find someone and sell the 450 you have.
Also, with the cards you mentioned earlier and I believe that you only play games, I would go for a 7900xtx and I would pay less and I would be better off......someone should stop this nonsense with Nvidia at some point, unless you like throwing money away.

 

[dcvikes]

If your motherboard is dialed in well I would keep using it. Meaning no BSOD's - no reboots - ram working perfectly-stable FPS. A regular 4070 or4070 Super at 1440p would be the max GPU I would use with a 5700x unless @ 4k.

 

[Dropment]

My pc is stable I do have my ram overclocked and cpu overclocked. I mostly COD and I do want to get over 240fps because I have a 1440p 240hz monitor.

 

[dcvikes]

If you're actually chasing a constant 240 FPS like an eSPORTS competitive gamer would then yes, a complete platform upgrade is what I would do. 7800X3D/9800X3D with an RTX 4080/4090.

 

[Dropment]

I am going to revisit this after XMAS! As of now the gpu upgrade is the best option. Given I get any giftcards I will see what I have to spend. Maybe a platform upgrade will happen and I can decide on if I get 5080 or not but thats for another time. Thanks for helping me

 

[ilukey77]

personally i would leave the 5700x , mobo , ram as is !!

upgrade the psu ( something 1200w for 2 reasons overkill and the 50 series will use more power) the gpu to a 50 series if you want ..

You dont need to go a 360aio on a 5700x but a Thermalright phantom evo 120 dual tower will cool the 5700x easy ..

That said a 360mm aio will do well cooling the 7800x3d and 9800x3d so if thats a upgrade path buy now save later ( arctic freezer ii or iii are still best price to performance AIOs on the market ) ( arctic freezer iii rgb is prettier)

After you have secured your new PSU GPU next year take a closer look at CPU mobo ddr5 upgrade x670e will be fine if its decent for the 7800x3d or 9800x3d ( rumours say zen 6 will be possible on AM5 so i cant see why x670e boards couldnt be used )

As it stands now Zen 5 doesnt really gain much from anything better then cl30 6000 ddr 5

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I would not touch the motherboard. Leave it alone.

Sink as much into gpu as you can and roll with that. Stuff I’ve seen the difference in most games between pci e gen 3 vs 4 isn’t much. I would roll with the board until you go new platform then you can sell as a kit.

 

[Dropment]

I can either get a 4070ti super or wait for 5000 series to come out. I will be having a matx board in an atx case which sucks but its okay until i buy new cpu,mobo and ram

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Totally up to you. If you’re looking at the 4070ti super, if you’re open to it you may start looking at the AMD Radeon rx 7900 xt.

Looks like the 7900 xt is a little stronger without ray tracing etc. But the nvidia card will do those things better of course. I think the 7900xt is a little cheaper but it gives you the option to consider as well. But unless you want to wait, it seems the 4070 ti super seems like a decent option.

One thing I would point out is if you look at the rtx 2000 and 3000 series it seems to me that when the 4000 series came out that nvidia held back features like newer versions of dlss for example from the older cards. I don’t think AMD has done that in the past. In fact if I’m not mistaken their fsr technology even works with older nvidia cards. Either way I think either of those cards is going to be a good upgrade. Personally I’ve got a 6800xt and I’m happy with it. Running 1440p and it seems to handle it just fine. Of course the 7900xt is 2-3 tiers above it.