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I got the xpg core reactor, PC still reboots. I noticed that every time before the kernel power there is an error about Intel Rapid storage technology stopped working 7034, could this be the cause?
 
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Aeacus said:
If there is issue (fault) with PSU, it will cause restart as well.


That's even worse of a PSU than your XPG Pylon was. CP-9020050-EU has orange label on it and is crap quality PSU. Worst PSU ever made by Corsair and shouldn't be made in the 1st place, let alone sold to the public.


That's a good PSU. Most likely would fix your issue as well.
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I got the xpg core reactor, pc still reboots. I'm lost. I noticed that every time before the kernel power there is an error about Intel Rapid storage technology stopped working 7034, could this be the cause?
 
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So it's rebooting when using the igpu? Are you trying to play anything on the igpu? When I say igpu, I mean the graphics on the 4770k, not your RTX 4060.
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Doesn't matter if I use the rtx or I unplug it and use the igpu, when I stress test the cpu with occt, it instantly reboots. Idk if it matters but it reboots always when cpu hits 1.19V
 
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Have you tried resetting the bios to see if it fixes anything?

Have you changed anything else other than the power supplies and adding the GPU?

Have you made sure your motherboard drivers are up to date?

Have you checked if there are any updates for your bios?
 
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Have you tried resetting the bios to see if it fixes anything?

Have you changed anything else other than the power supplies and adding the GPU?

Have you made sure your motherboard drivers are up to date?

Have you checked if there are any updates for your bios?
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I've tried multiple bios versions but nothing changed, also bios was resetting after every update. I haven't changed anything else, but tried removing one ram stick and it didn't help. (I've found some threads saying it's mismatched ram sticks fault)
 
Before final hardware replacement, format the OS drive and make a clean Win installation. This will get rid of all software issues.

Now, even after clean Win install you get the same issue, then it either comes down to MoBo or CPU.

Since you can boot to OS, i'm leaning towards CPU issue. Especially since when voltage drops to certain point (1.19V), PC reboots.

Though, 1.19V for your CPU is way too low. It should be 1.2V or 1.3V instead. So, remove all and any OC values from BIOS, making the CPU to run at stock clocks and voltages.

Also, your CPU is quite old as well, 11 years. And while CPUs can easily last 10+ years, but if the CPU has been OC'd in the past 11 years, it reduces the CPU lifespan. So, it could be that your CPU is on it's way out.
 
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Before final hardware replacement, format the OS drive and make a clean Win installation. This will get rid of all software issues.

Now, even after clean Win install you get the same issue, then it either comes down to MoBo or CPU.

Since you can boot to OS, i'm leaning towards CPU issue. Especially since when voltage drops to certain point (1.19V), PC reboots.

Though, 1.19V for your CPU is way too low. It should be 1.2V or 1.3V instead. So, remove all and any OC values from BIOS, making the CPU to run at stock clocks and voltages.

Also, your CPU is quite old as well, 11 years. And while CPUs can easily last 10+ years, but if the CPU has been OC'd in the past 11 years, it reduces the CPU lifespan. So, it could be that your CPU is on it's way out.
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In bios it says CPU input voltage is 1.760v, vcore is 1.053v so I assume that's what I see in OCCT. It starts with about 1.10v and goes UP to 1.19v and reboots
 
CPU input voltage, on stock clocks, is about 1.7V. Now, i haven't had i7-4770K and doesn't quite know why your Vcore voltages are so low. So, i need to summon someone who knows it.

@Eximo , you around? Would like your expertise regarding i7-4770K and it's voltages, since you used to have i7-4770K (or probably still have it).
 
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1.19 volts doesn't seem low to me for a stock 4770k, Input voltage does seem a tad low though. Might try bumping that up to 1.8 and see if it does any better. And a little core voltage wouldn't hurt either. We should expect more voltage to be needed as it ages.

Another thing to note is that Haswell chips used thermal paste rather than solder under the heat spreader. It is entirely possible for this to have failed and the CPU is self throttling/rebooting due to localized heating that doesn't show in the temperature sensor data.

For an overclocked Haswell up to 2 volts input is acceptable (more with exotic cooling). 1.35 volts is about the maximum for the CPU before you need heavy duty water cooling. Should get you between 4.2 and 4.4Ghz. Only the best chips ever managed a 24/7 4.5 or 4.6 Ghz.

If I recall I ran 1.29 volts at 4.3Ghz with an uncore of 3.9Ghz. My chip could do 4.5Ghz at 1.39 volts, but it would bounce off 100C pretty much constantly. I had a somewhat average/poor sample. I was using my 4770k until recently, but I was underclocking to 3Ghz all core and only giving it 35W. It ran my TV until I swapped it for an i3-12100F.

Not too expensive to replace the core system with an i3-13100F and a new motherboard/ram. But if the CPU proves faulty, could always track down an i7-4790 or i7-4790K. Basically a factory overclocked Haswell. The 4790K could do 4.7-4.9Ghz pretty regularly too.
 
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Eximo said:
1.19 volts doesn't seem low to me for a stock 4770k, Input voltage does seem a tad low though. Might try bumping that up to 1.8 and see if it does any better. And a little core voltage wouldn't hurt either. We should expect more voltage to be needed as it ages.

Another thing to note is that Haswell chips used thermal paste rather than solder under the heat spreader. It is entirely possible for this to have failed and the CPU is self throttling/rebooting due to localized heating that doesn't show in the temperature sensor data.

For an overclocked Haswell up to 2 volts input is acceptable (more with exotic cooling). 1.35 volts is about the maximum for the CPU before you need heavy duty water cooling. Should get you between 4.2 and 4.4Ghz. Only the best chips ever managed a 24/7 4.5 or 4.6 Ghz.

If I recall I ran 1.29 volts at 4.3Ghz with an uncore of 3.9Ghz. My chip could do 4.5Ghz at 1.39 volts, but it would bounce off 100C pretty much constantly. I had a somewhat average/poor sample. I was using my 4770k until recently, but I was underclocking to 3Ghz all core and only giving it 35W. It ran my TV until I swapped it for an i3-12100F.

Not too expensive to replace the core system with an i3-13100F and a new motherboard/ram. But if the CPU proves faulty, could always track down an i7-4790 or i7-4790K. Basically a factory overclocked Haswell. The 4790K could do 4.7-4.9Ghz pretty regularly too.
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Yeah I thought about getting a new Mobo and CPU and RAM but I heard that I'd have to reinstall windows and I'm afraid that I'll get logged out of everything with the new mobo because it'll get treated like new PC, would that be the case? And do you have any advice how could I identify that the cpu is failing?
As for bumping the voltage, I don't have an option to change the input voltage, only vcore voltage, cache voltage, pch voltage and CPU analog/digital io voltage, which one should I increase?
 
Well, a lot depends on how complicated your Windows install is. It is possible to successfully transplant motherboards, but not always. Windows may need to be reactivated or repurchased depending on your current license. If you have registered your Windows license through a Microsoft account, generally just have to say you are swapping the hardware.

For example, my i3-12100F started life as an AMD E350 motherboard, then a Z87 motherboard (i3, then the i7), and now Z690. It also began as Windows 7 and is currently Windows 10. I will need to do a reinstall to get it to Windows 11. (Though I will probably switch it to Linux at that point)

If you can't control the input voltage. Try reducing the core clocks and lowering the core voltage. If it is a power issue to the CPU that would solve it.

Really no way to test a CPU except by using it. Swapping in another CPU and it working immediately would be confirmation. It could just as easily be something on the motherboard that has gone bad.
 
Tried increasing vcore to 1.2 and the occt ran for a bit longer, for like 5 seconds before reboot. Then I tried 1.3v and the PC rebooted before I even opened occt. I changed it back to auto and the PC won't turn on anymore. It just reboots forever after windows loading screen
 
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Is this CPU destroyed?
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Not "destroyed" outright, but on it's way to there would be my best estimation.

Like i said, your CPU is old. IF it saw OC during it's lifespan, CPU's lifespan will be reduced. Now, you could get some life out of it by underclocking it, but it won't be far off before CPU would give up the ghost.
So, either look for replacement CPU (Intel 4th gen Haswell architecture chip) or new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo.
 
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Not "destroyed" outright, but on it's way to there would be my best estimation.

Like i said, your CPU is old. IF it saw OC during it's lifespan, CPU's lifespan will be reduced. Now, you could get some life out of it by underclocking it, but it won't be far off before CPU would give up the ghost.
So, either look for replacement CPU (Intel 4th gen Haswell architecture chip) or new CPU-MoBo-RAM combo.
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So you think motherboard is not the issue? Because I'm afraid I'll buy for example i7 4790k and it will be the same. Also, why did turning the vcore to 1.3V made it unable to run even on stock settings now? I ran OCCT with the underclock and it ran for 2 minutes, so looks like it's CPU issue right?
 
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Or a motherboard power issue. 1.3 volts may have been asking too much of the motherboard's capacitors or something. Also to get the higher vcore you need a higher vinput, and if you can't change it, adding core voltage may be the problem.

Try 1.1 or 1.15 volts and see if you can do 3.5Ghz. If it can't run at base clocks, then it is clear the board/CPU has issues. You can't really rule one out without another to test with.

Haswell chips are pretty cheap compared to upgrading. You would also need new RAM to upgrade, it would set you back a bit. Also an argument to made to jump right into DDR5, but that is about another $50, double the capacity though.

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CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($96.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B760M-HDV/M.2 D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($35.97 @ Amazon)
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Or a motherboard power issue. 1.3 volts may have been asking too much of the motherboard's capacitors or something. Also to get the higher vcore you need a higher vinput, and if you can't change it, adding core voltage may be the problem.

Try 1.1 or 1.15 volts and see if you can do 3.5Ghz. If it can't run at base clocks, then it is clear the board/CPU has issues. You can't really rule one out without another to test with.

Haswell chips are pretty cheap compared to upgrading. You would also need new RAM to upgrade, it would set you back a bit. Also an argument to made to jump right into DDR5, but that is about another $50, double the capacity though.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($96.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B760M-HDV/M.2 D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($35.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $224.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-16 12:59 EST-0500
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I wanted to buy a refurbished 4790k for 120 eur on Amazon but I'm afraid that even if the mobo is good now it'll fail either way soon. So I'd lean towards buying everything new. But my biggest concern is the windows reaction to new mobo. It says that my windows is activated using digital license linked to Microsoft account. Does that mean it'll tolerate the change?
 
Yes that is one possibility. Instant bluescreen and a boot loop is another outcome.

Unknown and intractable problems with hardware and software is a possibility.

Poor system performance is another that is often seen and only solved with a fresh install of Windows.

The system I have done this to over the years is not meant to be high performer. It is hooked up to my TV for web streaming and general use. I don't game with it, though I do occasionally test games with the Intel A380 to see how the drivers are coming along. So any issues with a nearly decade old Windows install aren't that big a deal to me. I have years of software installed, but they were all installed at one time or another for a purpose and not often revisited if ever. I really do need to wipe it. But with the use case I have, Linux is getting more appealing. Really just need some simple file sharing and a browser.

My other attempts. Let's see. Either clone or transfer. Windows XP failed to make the transition from an Athlon X2 to i7-950. SATA SSD RAID array from Intel to Intel though with Windows 7. SATA SSD RAID to NVMe drive, did not work. I also recently swapped an i9-10900F to an i7-12700KF without issues. But that is the simplest of systems. Windows, single NVMe SSD, and games.
 
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