Question PC upgrade/build question

[Portalus]

Hi everyone.

I'm thinking about small PC upgrade, so I can play games on medium+/high setting for next couple years (1440p)

My current RIG:
Asus Strix B450-f Gaming (mobo)
Ryzen 2700x (AM4)
32GB RAM 3200MHz
EVGA 3070
SATA SSD Crucial CX500 1TB

I'm wondering does staying with AM4 platform and changing CPU to Ryzen 5800X (and GPU to 7900XT or 9070 in future) make sense for next few years.
The question is: while this is obvious best bang for the buck, do you think it will stay relevant for next 3 years? Does AM5 and 9700X + NVMe + DDR 6000MHz swap is worth it?


Thanks for reading <3

 

[Unolocogringo]

Really depends on what will satisfy you.
A 5800x/3d and a7900xt will play almost all games at a high enough frame rate.
But will it be high enough to please you.
I'm perfectly fine with 60-120 FPS but some people come here and complain that they are only getting 300 FPS and others are getting 400-450.
I upgraded my grandson from a 2700x to a 5800x3d last Christmas and he was amazed at the performance gain in games.

 

[Portalus]

Thank you Unolocogringo for your reply.
Following your question: I'd love to be at 144fps, At worst case scenario not not lower than 100fps.

What is worth mentioning:
1) I'd expect above fps rates with AI frame generation OFF, as I hate input lag.
2) I'm not RayTracing fan.
3) If I use 4k, it's mostly indy games that doesn't require lots of performance. We're realy in 1440p ballpark.
4) I realy don't mind mild DLSS.

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[Vikko151]

Hi everyone.

I'm thinking about small PC upgrade, so I can play games on medium+/high setting for next couple years (1440p)

My current RIG:
Asus Strix B450-f Gaming (mobo)
Ryzen 2700x (AM4)
32GB RAM 3200MHz
EVGA 3070
SATA SSD Crucial CX500 1TB

I'm wondering does staying with AM4 platform and changing CPU to Ryzen 5800X (and GPU to 7900XT or 9070 in future) make sense for next few years.
The question is: while this is obvious best bang for the buck, do you think it will stay relevant for next 3 years? Does AM5 and 9700X + NVMe + DDR 6000MHz swap is worth it?


Thanks for reading <3

My apologies if there are errors. It's been now some time I didn't build a PC.

I personally don't think you need to go on a new platform. You can still get something of decent with this.

First of all, what's your PSU? And where do you want to buy (there might be price differences depending on where you live)? That would be nice to know.

Spoiler: NOTE ABOUT MY ADVICES

If you're not from USA, then things might be different in your country.

Ryzen 5800X

I've checked CPUs in PCPartPicker and found the more powerful Ryzen 5 5800XT for cheaper. Here's the link if you want to see by yourself: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fN88TW/amd-ryzen-7-5800xt-38-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100001582box

According to TechPowerUp, the Ryzen 7 5800X (note that the Ryzen 7 5800XT has a very small difference) can largely run games in Ultra at ~144 FPS. So, in the next years, medium and high will just run well.

Ryzen 7 5800X is $31 more expensive than Ryzen 7 5800XT at the time of writing, so that's actually pretty worth it.

(and GPU to 7900XT or 9070 in future)

On that platform, that's not really a good idea. Your motherboard has PCIe 3.0, whereas 7900XT is already PCIe 4.0. Since it's one of the most powerful GPU of that generation, I'm worried about bottlenecks.

If you want to change your GPU, you are better advised to completely change your platform for optimal speed. RTX 3070 is just slow enough to run well on PCIe 3.0, but a 7900XT would be bottlenecked.

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I think it's pretty up to you to know if a RTX 3070 will be sufficent for you in the next years or if you really want something of very future-proof and go with a new platform. I can also help here.

 

[logainofhades]

As your GPU purchase will be later, I say make the move to AM5. You get an upgrade path that doesn't exist on AM4.

 

[Portalus]

I'm living west/central europe. I'm on Corsair 750W PSU. I appreciate links but I've got here pretty good shops and purchase channels to get stuff in decent prices.

While I was going through your responses I was certain, I'll stay on AM4, untill you've reminded me pcie 3.0... I completely forgot about it and i guess this is a deal breaker.

While 3070 is still just fine, I believe incomming AAA games (like GTA VI) will masacrate this gpu; I'm expecting 60fps on medium..

Thank you so much for you pov, now I think AM5 is inevitable.

 

[Portalus]

Wait a moment... There's pretty much info in the internet about marginal differences between pcie 3.0 and 4.0:

View: https://youtu.be/v2SuyiHs-O4?si=biMgNKYSuJdEAxU8


I guess AM4 have a chances to survive 🤭

 

[logainofhades]

Except the CPU's on AM4 are not going to get any faster, so as GPU's get faster, they won't be able to keep up, and you are going to have to change platforms anyway.

 

[Vikko151]

Wait a moment... There's pretty much info in the internet about marginal differences between pcie 3.0 and 4.0:

View: https://youtu.be/v2SuyiHs-O4?si=biMgNKYSuJdEAxU8


I guess AM4 have a chances to survive 🤭

What logain mostly means by that is that, for your need, you need to aim for one of the most powerful CPUs of your platform. The problem is that in the next years, games will become more exigent, you'll need a better GPU, and finally will have to deal with a lot of bottlenecks.

I mean, if you want to get a new GPU and get something that holds, I somewhat agree a platform change is worth it.

So I decided to build a PC without breaking the bank so you can see how you can get a build that will be able to hold way longer and that will prevent a platform change in the next few years.

Consider first that:

I'm living west/central europe.

So I took France as a reference for your region. It's in Euro, which is very likely your currency.

Second, yes, I know you can also get excellent deals with Intel (the Intel i5-12600K is incredible for it's price), but if you want something that will allow future CPUs, then AMD is the best bet.

Third, the case has two stock fans, so I greatly advise you to perhaps buy another fan.

And last but not least is that I greatly advise you to use your current cooler in that new platform and to use the Wraith Stealth stock cooler in your current build if you want to sell it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€201.90 @ TopAchat)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

The Ryzen 5 7600 is almost as powerful as the Ryzen 5 5800X, despite it has less cores. That also means that the single core performance is better -> better performances in indie games.

Motherboard: ASRock B850M Pro-A Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€149.88 @ Alternate)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

This motherboard has overclocking and good VRM, meaning you can plan an upgrade without too many issues. Also, it features PCIe 5.0 x16, overclocking and BIOS Flashback.

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory (€95.65 @ Amazon France)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

Corsair is one of the best memory vendor, and the faster memory will also make a difference from the Ryzen 5 5800X.

Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€69.98 @ Amazon France)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

Even if the WD_BLACK SN850X is a very good deal, you can aim for slightly cheaper with this NVME. If you are alright to spend an extra €20, then I strongly advise the WD_BLACK SN850X.

Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card (€443.98 @ Alternate)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

The RX 7700 XT is enough for 1440p. A RX 7800 XT or a RX 7900 XT cost more, so if your budget isn't too tight, you can go with one of the two.

Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case (€93.99 @ Amazon France)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

This case has an excellent quality-price ratio and is even advised by Tom's Hardware (https://www.tomshardware.com/review...tml#section-best-budget-back-connect-atx-case). Has 4 RGB fans directly with the case.

Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 Gold V2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€90.00) (PS: The price got modified manually, comes from Amazon)

Spoiler: Why did I choose this

The power supply is one of the most important part of a PC. This one is of an excellent quality and has even been reviewed by Tom's Hardware (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-v750-gold-v2-power-supply-review). It's also powerful enough for future builds.

Total: €1145.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker

Just telling you that changing to AM5 can do the matter if you want something that you'll be able to keep for years. If I was you and that I was looking to upgrade my GPU, I'd go with a new platform.