PC upgrade help- Gaming

[Charlie11123]

Recently my pc has been struggling with games with fps drops and stuttering and I was wondering for people's opinions about what I should upgrade next

The parts I have right now are:
i5 4460 3.2GhZ- I have essentially a default cooler (some crappy TITAN one)
MSI GTX 980 4GB TwinFrozr
8GB HyperX DDR3 1600Mhz
Corsair VS450 450 watt PSU
Asus H81M-PLUS-cannot OC and doesn't support DDR4, only Haswell chips or lower
120GB SSD
1TB HDD

any opinions that you have on my choice on what to upgrade next is greatly appreciated.


edit: I don't really want to be spending much more than £320/$414/€363

 

[Herc08]

Well what games are you playing? Why aren't you using the stock cooler that came with the i5? What settings and resolution are you playing at? What is your power delivery? You went cheap on the PSU to drive a powerful card.

What is your CPU and GPU usage and temps?

 

[Charlie11123]

Well what games are you playing? Why aren't you using the stock cooler that came with the i5? What settings and resolution are you playing at? What is your power delivery? You went cheap on the PSU to drive a powerful card.

What is your CPU and GPU usage and temps?

I generally play PUBG, Division, counter strike and battlefield 1. Almost always at 1080p. My pc came with that cooler and what do you mean by power delivery??
The usage of my gpu never goes above 70% on PUBG and my cpu generally stays at around 80-90%

 

[Herc08]

That could be some bottlenecking, but what are your temps for the cpu and gpu? and what is the ambient temp for the room?

 

[derutzki]

What settings are you playing pubg on and how much fps are you getting?

 

[Charlie11123]

That could be some bottlenecking, but what are your temps for the cpu and gpu? and what is the ambient temp for the room?

My temps for my gpu only ever get up to 70 on PUBG but on games like CS sometimes my GPU fans don't even bother to turn on. My CPU generally sits around 45-55 maybe 60 on intense games. The room is generally quite a cold one since it is a converted garage into a study.

 

[Charlie11123]

What settings are you playing pubg on and how much fps are you getting?

I run on everything very low with medium textures. My game is super inconsistent since sometimes I will have 90-120fps but sometimes I will get 30-50. Hopefully the month 3 update will stabilise this

 

[derutzki]

What settings are you playing pubg on and how much fps are you getting?

I run on everything very low with medium textures. My game is super inconsistent since sometimes I will have 90-120fps but sometimes I will get 30-50. Hopefully the month 3 update will stabilise this

Yeah that's just the game. I have a ryzen 1600 and gtx 950. I get about 70-80 fps average but sometimes drops to like 40.

 

[derutzki]

Recently my pc has been struggling with games with fps drops and stuttering and I was wondering for people's opinions about what I should upgrade next

The parts I have right now are:
i5 4460 3.2GhZ- I have essentially a default cooler (some crappy TITAN one)
MSI GTX 980 4GB TwinFrozr
8GB HyperX DDR3 1600Mhz
Corsair VS450 450 watt PSU
Asus H81M-PLUS-cannot OC and doesn't support DDR4, only Haswell chips or lower
120GB SSD
1TB HDD

any opinions that you have on my choice on what to upgrade next is greatly appreciated.


edit: I don't really want to be spending much more than £320/$414/€363

Personally I would upgrade a cpu. GPU's right now are very overpriced and hard to find a good one right now.

 

[Herc08]

What is your CPU frequency when playing the games?

 

[Charlie11123]

That could be some bottlenecking, but what are your temps for the cpu and gpu? and what is the ambient temp for the room?

What is your CPU frequency when playing the games?

It is 3.2Ghz and non overclockable so I'm gonna assume that it is 3.2Ghz

 

[Charlie11123]

Any recommendations for a cpu upgrade that would be worth the money

 

[derutzki]

Any recommendations for a cpu upgrade that would be worth the money

You can get an i5 7600 for around 240$ and if you get a mobo for that it will prob be a bit over 300$

 

[Charlie11123]

Any recommendations for a cpu upgrade that would be worth the money

You can get an i5 7600 for around 240$ and if you get a mobo for that it will prob be a bit over 300$

Will this also require me to get new RAM tho??

 

[Charlie11123]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zHybYJ

although this isn't a 7600 after looking at benchmarks it seems that this does the same job and can be overclocked. unfortunately I can't get it the same price as you lucky US guys. It's about $60 more in the uk but oh well. This build will also allow me to keep the RAM I currently have, just wondering if it will perform ok

edit:the mobo has no price listed but is around £91

 

[Kunra Zether]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K5 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $458.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-28 18:14 EDT-0400

 

[Kunra Zether]

Either that or drop in a 1080 or 1080ti

 

[Charlie11123]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K5 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $458.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-28 18:14 EDT-0400

Unfortunately in U.K. That is $600 so over my budget quite a bit. But thanks for your suggestion, not your fault it doesn't suit my needs

 

[derutzki]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming K5 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $458.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-28 18:14 EDT-0400

You can still get the ryzen 1600 but you can also get a cheaper mobo. You can get the msi b350 gaming pro micro atx for 80 dollars and u can get 8gb of ram instead of 16gb which would be around 60 dollars

 

[derutzki]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ this build comes up to 338$ The ryzen 1600 comes with a stock cooler. You don't get the 16gb of ram but you can always upgrade that in the future.

 

[Charlie11123]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ this build comes up to 338$ The ryzen 1600 comes with a stock cooler. You don't get the 16gb of ram but you can always upgrade that in the future.

Now I'm thinking my PC isn't getting enough power too, people seem to be getting so much better frames with the same components and I'm not really sure that my psu is up to scratch for it. I think I might just slowly do the upgrade over the next couple of months so that I can do it properly

 

[derutzki]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ this build comes up to 338$ The ryzen 1600 comes with a stock cooler. You don't get the 16gb of ram but you can always upgrade that in the future.

Now I'm thinking my PC isn't getting enough power too, people seem to be getting so much better frames with the same components and I'm not really sure that my psu is up to scratch for it. I think I might just slowly do the upgrade over the next couple of months so that I can do it properly

Yeah that's what I did. I did my psu first and then I got a new cpu and mobo with ram.

 

[Charlie11123]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ this build comes up to 338$ The ryzen 1600 comes with a stock cooler. You don't get the 16gb of ram but you can always upgrade that in the future.

Now I'm thinking my PC isn't getting enough power too, people seem to be getting so much better frames with the same components and I'm not really sure that my psu is up to scratch for it. I think I might just slowly do the upgrade over the next couple of months so that I can do it properly

Yeah that's what I did. I did my psu first and then I got a new cpu and mobo with ram.

Especially since I just did one of those wattage psu calculators and it says that mine is 490 watts when my really terrible VS450 only has 450 watts so realistically with the terrible efficiency of it, it's probably closer to 400. Am I right in thinking that this could be a reason for worse performance??