Question PC with only a 1 tb ssd.

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So I got this PC it came with a 12th gen i7 cpu and a 3070ti gpu but only came with a 1tb ssd you know the SATA kind.

My Mobo is an H610M-HVS (ASRock) basically I need another storage device because when mine is working my PC is bricked. what do I do and what do I need to buy?
 
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only came with a 1tb ssd you know the SATA kind.
1TB 2.5" SATA or a 1TB M.2 SATA based SSD?

basically I need another storage device because when mine is working my PC is bricked
Wait, which PC is bricked?

So I got this PC it came with a 12th gen i7 cpu and a 3070ti gpu but only came with a 1tb ssd you know the SATA kind.
I noticed you have specs listed in your sig space. Sig space specs can and will change over time. When that happens this thread and it's relevant suggestion will be rendered moot to the end user in the same boat as you're in now. We advise users to list their specs like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.

what do I do and what do I need to buy?
Where are you located, what is your budget for additional storage purchase and what is your preferred site for purchase?
 
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Rokinamerica said:
Chipset:
- 1 x PCIe 3.0 x1 Slot (PCIE1)*
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Man it hurts to think about how much that will cripple an NVMe SSD, but it won't cost any more than a 2.5 inch SATA drive, and double the speed is better than nothing. Certainly no point in getting anything other than the cheapest drive from a reliable brand with the desired capacity, and maybe one day it can be moved to another machine that can make better use of it.

It will need a PCIe x1 to NVMe adapter, of course. Don't know what capacity is needed.

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Compatible-Playstation-SP02KGBP44US7505/dp/B0CCD9LBPH
https://www.amazon.com/GLOTRENDS-Adapter-Installation-Bandwidth-PA09-X1/dp/B09P3HY3P3

Past that capacity you're looking at enough to buy a whole new PC. I love the listing details for that adapter. They actually give you the benefits and advantages of using their product. Oddly, they don't specify what PCIe generation it's designed for but the images and their own site say PCIe4.
 
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evermorex76 said:
Man it hurts to think about how much that will cripple an NVMe SSD, but it won't cost any more than a 2.5 inch SATA drive, and double the speed is better than nothing. Certainly no point in getting anything other than the cheapest drive from a reliable brand with the desired capacity, and maybe one day it can be moved to another machine that can make better use of it.

It will need a PCIe x1 to NVMe adapter, of course. Don't know what capacity is needed.

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Compatible-Playstation-SP02KGBP44US7505/dp/B0CCD9LBPH
https://www.amazon.com/GLOTRENDS-Adapter-Installation-Bandwidth-PA09-X1/dp/B09P3HY3P3

Past that capacity you're looking at enough to buy a whole new PC. I love the listing details for that adapter. They actually give you the benefits and advantages of using their product. Oddly, they don't specify what PCIe generation it's designed for but the images and their own site say PCIe4.
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For those PCIe to NVMe adapters you don't need to Know PCIe generation because they are compatible with all. There's not much in them, practically just contact to contact/wire to wire, socket to socket conversion. The one you referenced to has only one PCIe lane so any NVMe drive will work 1/4 the speed, about same as a SATA SSD, M.2 or 2.5".
I know that MB has only one PCIe x1 slot but it has 4 SATA3 slots so you might be better off getting 2.5" SSD.
 
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In general, I understand "bricked".

However, some additional explanation and detail about what is or is not happening would be helpful.

To start with, use Task Manager and Resource Monitor to observe system performance and note what all is happening when "bricking" occurs.

What resources are being used, to what extent, and what is using any given resource?

Details needed.
 
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H610 motherboards are built to be low budget.
What do you mean "bricked"? Is it a failure of some sort?
If you need more capacity, just buy another 2.5" sata ssd.
Do not be mesmerized by fast sequential benchmarks that m.2 devices advertise.
They are done on new drives at queue depths of 32.
First of all, Most of what we do is small random I/O and for that, response times are remarkably similar.
You might find this video amusing and instructive:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA
 
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CountMike said:
The one you referenced to has only one PCIe lane so any NVMe drive will work 1/4 the speed, about same as a SATA SSD, M.2 or 2.5".
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PCIe3x1 is still double the bandwidth of a SATA drive, and both 2.5 inch and M.2 SATA drives cost just as much as an NVMe drive. There's just no reason to get a 2.5 inch if you CAN use NVMe. And while the adapters SHOULD work with any generation, having it specifically stated by the company is nice, and it's possible for them to cut the quality just enough to make using it in a higher generation than rated to result in just enough reduction in things like signal quality to cause problems.

geofelt said:
Do not be mesmerized by fast sequential benchmarks that m.2 devices advertise.
They are done on new drives at queue depths of 32.
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I don't use queue depths of 32 when I benchmark my drives. I use 4 which is the default in ATTO, and I still get blazingly fast speeds. The absolute peak speeds in marketing obviously use the most optimized testing on the best boards possible, but even in less optimal testing NVMe is much faster than SATA. Benchmarks of course don't mean anything in the real world, they're just an indicator of what COULD happen. While most activity is small random I/O, NVMe does make systems boot faster than SATA, and anybody coming here probably does more than just loading MS Word and MS Edge and will have points where they are transferring a lot of data like games, and when the cost difference is tiny or non-existent, why would you NOT get the faster model that will at least improve performance noticeably sometimes?
 
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evermorex76 said:
PCIe3x1 is still double the bandwidth of a SATA drive, and both 2.5 inch and M.2 SATA drives cost just as much as an NVMe drive. There's just no reason to get a 2.5 inch if you CAN use NVMe. And while the adapters SHOULD work with any generation, having it specifically stated by the company is nice, and it's possible for them to cut the quality just enough to make using it in a higher generation than rated to result in just enough reduction in things like signal quality to cause problems.


I don't use queue depths of 32 when I benchmark my drives. I use 4 which is the default in ATTO, and I still get blazingly fast speeds. The absolute peak speeds in marketing obviously use the most optimized testing on the best boards possible, but even in less optimal testing NVMe is much faster than SATA. Benchmarks of course don't mean anything in the real world, they're just an indicator of what COULD happen. While most activity is small random I/O, NVMe does make systems boot faster than SATA, and anybody coming here probably does more than just loading MS Word and MS Edge and will have points where they are transferring a lot of data like games, and when the cost difference is tiny or non-existent, why would you NOT get the faster model that will at least improve performance noticeably sometimes?
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No, PCIe y3 x1 is barely faster than SATA at theoretical speed of 750 NB/s which us rarely attainable end makes no practical difference and in this case involves ab adapter. If MB had an M.2 slot it would be usable.
 
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CountMike said:
No, PCIe y3 x1 is barely faster than SATA at theoretical speed of 750 NB/s which us rarely attainable end makes no practical difference and in this case involves ab adapter. If MB had an M.2 slot it would be usable.
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Where are you getting 750MBps? 1GBps (or 985MBps technically) per direction is the max interface speed, and while obviously nothing ever actually reaches those speeds in the real world, the capability is there, and with a controller in the SSD that is capable of 7GBps it will be able to max out that single lane to the peak of the mainboard chipset's ability. SATA's theoretical peak is 600MBps but we all know about 560MBps is the real peak of any SSD. The adapter will introduce no bandwidth losses or latency, so it's no different from a mainboard M.2 slot with only one lane. The point still stands that even if the real world use shows only occasional performance benefits with an NVMe drive at x1, the price is essentially the same (the adapter adds 8 bucks but I consider it a wash), so why not get those occasional benefits and have a drive that has some potential use going forward with another system?
 
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