pci graphics card

[therealchrist]

OK my rig really sucks and only has pci slots in it so as i am running on onboard graphics i thought i might get a gpu.

What is the best graphics card on pci?

all help is mich appreaciated,cheers
chris

 

[cleeve]

The best graphics card available on PCI is the 5700 LE.

The 5200 and 9200/9100 aren't far behind though, and are easier to find.

 

[therealchrist]

There are different speeds of original pci isnt there?would that card require the fastest speed pci?

 

[cleeve]

Shouldn't make a difference.

 

[carpcmelee]

HI man i wasa in the same position a couple of months ago. I got the pny verto 5500 pci. man, im so happy. any 1-2 yr old game runs at at least medium on 1024x768. I oc'ed it to 345/515 from 270/350 on stock cooling. wow!

 

[therealchrist]

Cool thanks what about an fx 5500? is that any good?

 

[therealchrist]

HI man i wasa in the same position a couple of months ago. I got the pny verto 5500 pci. man, im so happy. any 1-2 yr old game runs at at least medium on 1024x768. I oc'ed it to 345/515 from 270/350 on stock cooling. wow!

Yeah but i wont be able to overclock it.I have a dell pc.

 

[carpcmelee]

its called coolbits smart one *hears his gfx card flaming*

 

[carpcmelee]

and btw i have a sony so im in the same situation. i can only oc the gfx card, and maybe use clockgen to oc cpu. i doubt the cpu part cuz my 2.66 northwood runs at 51c idle.*hears his room flaming*

 

[therealchrist]

HI man i wasa in the same position a couple of months ago. I got the pny verto 5500 pci. man, im so happy. any 1-2 yr old game runs at at least medium on 1024x768. I oc'ed it to 345/515 from 270/350 on stock cooling. wow!

I presume the 5200 is better then the 5500?

 

[therealchrist]

what about a radeon 9250 se?

 

[carpcmelee]

ok, look. the 5500 is the 5200 with higher clocks. so basically, u pay the same price for a 20mhz upgrade. and the 9250se is just horrible, i doubt it will even play games on miniclip 8)

 

[linux_0]

I would suggest upgrading to an AGP or PCI-Express motherboard if possible because 32bit 33MHz PCI is limited to 132MB/sec of SHARED bandwidth - that is a major bottleneck and there is nothing you can do to fix it short of upgrading the motherboard.

If you could post your full specs we could suggest the best upgrade path at the lowest cost.

You can pickup AGP boards for $40-$50 bucks for Intel and AMD. Maybe even less if you get it on ebay - sometimes you can find good deals and sometimes not.

If it is not possible to upgrade motherboards I would agree that the 5700LE PCI is probably your best bet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609642&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ATTR1=&ATTR2=&ATTR3=&ATTR4=&ATTR5=&ATTR6=&ATTR7=&ATTR8=&ATTR9=&ATTR10=2010380048+1069609642&ATTR11=&ATTR12=&ATTR13=&ATTR14=&ATTR15=&ATTR16=&ATTR17=&ATTR18=

Good Luck 😀

 

[teh_squaterer]

http://www.chumbo.com/info.aspx?id=322418&ptr=fg

This is the best graphics card for a PCI slot. 256 MB Geforce 6200 OC.

 

[linux_0]

At that price ( $150 ) you can purchase a motherboard and a plain 6600 PCI-Express or almost a 6600GT PCI-Express.

This 6600GT is $94.99 after rebate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127147

😀

 

[therealchrist]

I would suggest upgrading to an AGP or PCI-Express motherboard if possible because 32bit 33MHz PCI is limited to 132MB/sec of SHARED bandwidth - that is a major bottleneck and there is nothing you can do to fix it short of upgrading the motherboard.

If you could post your full specs we could suggest the best upgrade path at the lowest cost.

You can pickup AGP boards for $40-$50 bucks for Intel and AMD. Maybe even less if you get it on ebay - sometimes you can find good deals and sometimes not.

If it is not possible to upgrade motherboards I would agree that the 5700LE PCI is probably your best bet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609642&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ATTR1=&ATTR2=&ATTR3=&ATTR4=&ATTR5=&ATTR6=&ATTR7=&ATTR8=&ATTR9=&ATTR10=2010380048+1069609642&ATTR11=&ATTR12=&ATTR13=&ATTR14=&ATTR15=&ATTR16=&ATTR17=&ATTR18=

Good Luck 😀

I have a dell dimension L800r

800mhz P3
320mb ram (64mb stick is 100mhz 256mb stick 133 mhz)
About 30gigs over two harddrives
soudblaster audio card
onboard graphics.

The 5700le is better even though it only has 124mb of ram?

 

[michaelahess]

You're throwing away money, just save up and get a new rig. Not a Dell.

 

[therealchrist]

Ive been saving really hard for two years but the money just keeps getting used for more important things.

 

[michaelahess]

Believe me I know the feeling, dam kids.......

 

[linux_0]

I agree with Michaelahess 😀


I do not mean to offend the OP or anything but the system is going to be the bottleneck.

To get the most out of a card like the 5700LE or something similar from ATI you would need an AMD K7 or K8 2500+ or better or a P4 2.8 or better with at least 512MB RAM.

You could pick up a new board for about $50, CPU for about $80, 1GB RAM for about $70 a new PSU for about $40 and a 6600GT PCI-Express for $94.99 after rebate from newegg.

Total = about $355 before S&H

 

[michaelahess]

Yeah, that sounds like a perfect upgrade, probably need a case too, $20!

I still use a couple old l and r series dells for chat servers and file servers, but they have no place as a daily machine.

 

[linux_0]

Yeah, that sounds like a perfect upgrade, probably need a case too, $20!

I still use a couple old l and r series dells for chat servers and file servers, but they have no place as a daily machine.

My domain is a Dell free zone.

100% built ( except for one laptop [non-Dell] )

 

[michaelahess]

I'm cheap and get them from companies that I upgrade for FREE!!!! It's just to hard to throw out anything computer related! (they are stable as hell though)

 

[linux_0]

I would suggest upgrading to an AGP or PCI-Express motherboard if possible because 32bit 33MHz PCI is limited to 132MB/sec of SHARED bandwidth - that is a major bottleneck and there is nothing you can do to fix it short of upgrading the motherboard.

If you could post your full specs we could suggest the best upgrade path at the lowest cost.

You can pickup AGP boards for $40-$50 bucks for Intel and AMD. Maybe even less if you get it on ebay - sometimes you can find good deals and sometimes not.

If it is not possible to upgrade motherboards I would agree that the 5700LE PCI is probably your best bet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048+1069609642&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ATTR1=&ATTR2=&ATTR3=&ATTR4=&ATTR5=&ATTR6=&ATTR7=&ATTR8=&ATTR9=&ATTR10=2010380048+1069609642&ATTR11=&ATTR12=&ATTR13=&ATTR14=&ATTR15=&ATTR16=&ATTR17=&ATTR18=

Good Luck 😀

I have a dell dimension L800r

800mhz P3
320mb ram (64mb stick is 100mhz 256mb stick 133 mhz)
About 30gigs over two harddrives
soudblaster audio card
onboard graphics.

The 5700le is better even though it only has 124mb of ram?

256MB RAM on a VGA card doesn't always make a difference.

On newer cards like the 7600/7800/7900 and comparable ATI cards it does help, on older cards it hardly makes a difference although it varies from architecture to architecture.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

and the 9250se is just horrible, i doubt it will even play games on miniclip 8)

The FX is equally horrible, and you should look at benchmarks, the PCI slot is the limiter, they won't perform that differently. So saying the 9250 sux means the FX5200/5500 sux, which we all already knew because PCI just plain SUX for gaming.

Like has been mentioned, upgrade the board, and the latest integrated chips like the X200 or GF6150 will likely perform better than those overpriced crappy PCI cards.

At least the GF6200 PCI offers you additional features for your slide-show performance.