Pentium 820 D

[mozzartusm]

I havent heard of this problem either. I havent seen any threads in the other forums that I visit.

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[endyen]

Wasn't there something funny about the way EM64T delt with memory addressing? I seem to remember reading that it would waste time switching to the 32 bit registers.

 

[HansGruber]

Intel DC RAM problem do exist, and you know it.


<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>

 

[Guest]

Pffft stop sspewing crap around.

Yes DC is sometimes more stressfull for the memory. I rember back in the early days of the 865/875, crashman use to recommand buying PC3500 because it would deal better with the added stress.
That was more a memory issue IMO.

Either post relevant thread/links or stop it. Single line of BS wont cut it!

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[Guest]

Yes I remeber, its something to do with using lesser precision/length...
Im pretty sure P4Man will enlighten us, I rember that he talked about this.
Its still no issue over 4gb or whatever Hans is talking about

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[HansGruber]

Pffft stop sspewing crap around.

FU !

Intel dual core CPU's won't work with most memory, not even Intel MB that they sent with the 840EE presskit.

Hard to believe that you people haven't seen those reviews where they (at worst) wasted days for trying to make it stable.

ps. believe what you want, i dont care, bye.

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>

 

[Guest]

Than why dont you post Links???

If these are facts, you should easily prove it.
Yet all you've done is post unfounded BS.

Do you at least realise that the processor wasnt even released when they sent some presskit, do you think this was a final product and nothing as changed in the last months?

If your next post doesnt contain any hard fact backed up with review/thread, you will officialy be labeled as a troll and a Fanboy.

Oh and btw replying FU pretty much shows you dont have any arguments...

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[HansGruber]

I couldn't find any links at first.
I was looking what i posted months ago to a different forum, but that forums is down..

Also very few sites have balls to mention those problems.
They after all get financial support from manufacturers.

But i found something.
<A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/hardware/1513_3.html" target="_new">From here</A>

<b>I must say in all fairness to AMD that the board they sent to us as their platform representative was much more user friendly than Intel's 955 board that gave us nothing but a hard time right out of the gate.
We spent a week of our time just getting the board to even recognize their own damn CPU, which was more than a mere headache as it sent us back on our schedule by days and wasted many precious man hours just fiddling with the board.
Then there were the constant heat issues, which plagued the Intel platform even more, leaving a bad taste in my mouth for the first time.
</b>

They wont say it's a memory problem, but some got it working by trying different RAM.

Also <A HREF="http://www.soneraplaza.fi/tietokoneet/artikkeli/0,2998,h-9103_a-286545,00.html" target="_new">Finnish review.</A>

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>

 

[Guest]

It is interesting but as I mentionned earlier, this was a pre-release press kit. Yes the AMD one was working ebtter from the start Kudos to them, but I know a lot of DC processor got sold by Intel and quite a few must have been 840EE and it would be silly to think that people buying it or even DELL has this kind of issues.

Also as you pointed out, it has nothing do to with DC issues, or slowing down whatever that you where pointing earlier... Even if different RAM did hellp that doesnt say that much!

And sorry I dont understand finnish!

***edit, referring DC as Dual Channel, thjink you meant DualCore sorry for the mis-understanding...

Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-4-4-8, MSI 6800Ultra stock, 2X30gig Raid0<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by labbbby on 08/17/05 11:35 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[noko]

Well I see I am not the only one being called a troll in my thread. Anyways I couldn't find memory problems for DC intel D nor AMD X2 lines. Looks like both of them will take you to 2gb and beyond if so desired.

 

[Guest]

Here I will contribut a little to your thread!
<A HREF="http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/08/17/dualcore/index.php" target="_new">Read it here!</A>

In total, Intel completed the Smithfield processor core in nine months, Douglas said. By Intel’s standards, that is an extremely aggressive goal for a major processor design, said Kevin Krewell, editor in chief of The Microprocessor Report in San Jose, California.

“Most designs take years,” Krewell said. “But it was very important for them to get back in the game and have a road map.

...

Despite the rush, Smithfield was good enough to get Intel into the dual-core era, Krewell said. “It’s not an optimal solution, but it’s a viable solution. It works, and it works reasonably well,” he said.

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[noko]

Thanks Labbby, interesting read. So AMD is setting the pace here and Intel responded, (about time) rather quickly I might add as well. Sounds like Intel's server chips will be rather strong and out this year! We will see. I also found the last paragraph interesting:

<font color=red><b>Future multicore designs will present additional challenges, Douglas said. Point-to-point buses and integrated memory controllers have been prominent features of other multicore designs, such as Opteron and the Cell processor. These designs help improve performance, but Intel isn’t necessarily sold on the concept because it requires a larger number of pins to deliver electricity into the processor and that can hurt yields, he said.

</font color=red></b>

Sounds like Intel is going to have another strategy with a very competitive AMD . If they are worrying about yields and keeping the memory controller external (sounds like it) then maybe Intel is going for the lower price, something that AMD was usually much better at except for the Dual core chips which are priced about the same as Intels except for the 820D. One then can argue that for most things, the AMD dual core comes out ahead so thus are still cheaper overall over Intel (except maybe our famed and framed 820D wonder :lol: ).

 

[Starfishy]

Why are those odd green double lines showing up in this thread. These things are annoying enough in THG we don't need them here in THGC too.

<b><font color=red>Go date P4man or something, bye!</font color=red><b>

 

[HansGruber]

Why are those odd green double lines showing up in this thread. These things are annoying enough in THG we don't need them here in THGC too.

I hate those, i often confuse legitimate links to those adlinks.

edit. <A HREF="http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t331025.html" target="_new">psst.</A> :lol:

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by HansGruber on 08/19/05 12:54 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[noko]

TomsHardware has turned into one big advertising campaign to an extent I've never seen before. Even people posts are linked to advertisements. Make advertisments funny, entertaining and people will probably not mind, but to be bush wack to death to mindless links to who knows where will probably turn people away from those trying to sell the junk to you. Someone needs to get a clue. (Allright I don't mean me ). <b>WTF!!! Even Adv.... camp has a LINK!!!!</b>

 

[HansGruber]

Use this <A HREF="http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t331025.html" target="_new">HOSTS file trick</A>, it works fine for me. :lol:

Someone needs to get a clue. (Allright I don't mean me)

:frown:

<font color=red>"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
- Albert Einstein</font color=red>

 

[noko]

:lol:

 

[noko]

All said and done this is what I got 😀

Opteron 165 OC to 2.41ghz
Asrock 939Dual SataII
2gb of OCZ dual channel
Kept XPpro SP2
2 WD SATAI drives in Raid 0
Kept A/C cooled case (no fogging still)
Kept AGP 6800GT

Opteron 165 ROCKS!!! I am limited by HTT speed with current bios, running at 270mhz, still don't know the limit of the Opteron 165 (dual core). Asrock also rocks for the price, with no voltage mods, running the OCZ ram at 220mhz, cpu at stock 1.35v I am where I am at. I am also am very lucky or the Opteron has a better memory controller since I am running with cmd of 1T and pushing over 6000mb/s memory speed. Maybe in 4 months I will get a Radeon X1900XT or XTX. Rendering 3d is just awesome and performance over my XP2500+ at greater then XP3200+ speeds is just jaw dropping. I can now render, surf, use paint program with no apparent slow downs.