[SOLVED] Pentium Gold G6405 vs i5 3570

[shootingstar1986]

I am looking to upgrade my old desktop.

I wanted to know whether it would be better to go for a brand new Pentium Gold G6405. Or should I go for a refurbished i5 3570 ? Both would cost the same for me but I would get better warranty on the new one.

Would the performance match considering that Pentium Gold is 10th generation and the i5 is a 3rd generation.

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You're first task would be to inform us of your current system specs as well as the tasks you intend to tax the system with. Please parse the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:

Both might cost the same to you, but they use two different platforms, one is DDR3 based the other is DDR4 based.

 

[geofelt]

What is your intended use?
What will be the rest of the system?

From a performance point of view, they are comparable.
The G6405 is marginally faster in single thread performance.
I would go with the newer gen processor.
Warranty on intel processors means little; they very rarely fail.

And, I might suspect that you may have better choices.

 

[shootingstar1986]

Current config:
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor
Motherboard: Asus M4N68T-M-LE-V2
Ram: 8 gb DDR3
SSD/HDD: 160 Gb SATA HDD
GPU: none
PSU: 400 watt
Chassis: Tower
OS: Debian 9
Monitor: Dell 20 inch monitor

My current config runs slow when I use Chrome and doesn't support dual displays.

I will be installing Debian 11 or Ubuntu in it. I will use Chrome on it. I will install Virtualbox on it and run 2-3 virtual machines on it for learning Kubernetes, Docker, Jenkins, Elasticsearch, Kafka, etc. Although I won't be running all of them at the same time. I am a Linux admin and transitioning towards Devops.

 

[shootingstar1986]

What is your intended use?
What will be the rest of the system?

From a performance point of view, they are comparable.
The G6405 is marginally faster in single thread performance.
I would go with the newer gen processor.
Warranty on intel processors means little; they very rarely fail.

And, I might suspect that you may have better choices.

Intel processors rarely fail but I think that can't be said about motherboards. I think motherboards fail quite often especially refurbished ones

 

[shootingstar1986]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You're first task would be to inform us of your current system specs as well as the tasks you intend to tax the system with. Please parse the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:

Both might cost the same to you, but they use two different platforms, one is DDR3 based the other is DDR4 based.

Current config:
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor
Motherboard: Asus M4N68T-M-LE-V2
Ram: 8 gb DDR3
SSD/HDD: 160 Gb SATA HDD
GPU: none
PSU: 400 watt
Chassis: Tower
OS: Debian 9
Monitor: Dell 20 inch monitor

My current config runs slow when I use Chrome and doesn't support dual displays.

I will be installing Debian 11 or Ubuntu in it. I will use Chrome on it. I will install Virtualbox on it and run 2-3 virtual machines on it for learning Kubernetes, Docker, Jenkins, Elasticsearch, Kafka, etc. Although I won't be running all of them at the same time. I am a Linux admin and transitioning towards Devops.

 

[TerryLaze]

Intel processors rarely fail but I think that can't be said about motherboards. I think motherboards fail quite often especially refurbished ones

So you are talking about buying complete new systems based on those two CPUs and not just the CPUs?
Then you should list the specs of the systems you consider buying so that people can tell you which one they think is better.

 

[USAFRet]

CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor

You currently have an old AMD system.
Buying an also old Intel system is not the solution, unless you can get the whole thing for under $50.

What about the current system is lacking?
What is your actual budget for this whole change?

 

[shootingstar1986]

So you are talking about buying complete new systems based on those two CPUs and not just the CPUs?
Then you should list the specs of the systems you consider buying so that people can tell you which one they think is better.

You currently have an old AMD system.
Buying an also old Intel system is not the solution, unless you can get the whole thing for under $50.

What about the current system is lacking?
What is your actual budget for this whole change?

It lacks dual display. Sometimes it hangs when I am using Chrome. I live in India where these things are expensive compared to USA. My budget is around $130 to $200.

 

[USAFRet]

Ram: 8 gb DDR3

I will install Virtualbox on it and run 2-3 virtual machines on it for learning Kubernetes, Docker, Jenkins, Elasticsearch, Kafka, etc.

This is problematic.

Even with Linux host and guests, 8GB RAM is pretty small.

 

[shootingstar1986]

This is problematic.

Even with Linux host and guests, 8GB RAM is pretty small.

I can increase the RAM but I am confused between Pentium Gold G6405 (new) and i5-3570 (refurbished)

 

[USAFRet]

I can increase the RAM but I am confused between Pentium Gold G6405 (new) and i5-3570 (refurbished)

Both of which will also need a new motherboard.

Given buying a new CPU, more RAM, and a new CPU....buy something much much newer.
The Pentium G6405 will be lacking in your proposed VM realm.

 

[logainofhades]

With your budget, I would see if you can find a refurb office PC, like an older 3rd or 4th gen Dell Optiplex. Your other option, would be get a Phenom II X6, more storage, and a low end GPU, like a GT 710. That won't help the ram situation though.

CPU's compatible with your current board.

M4N68T-M LE V2 - Support

www.asus.com

 

[TerryLaze]

The Pentium G6405 will be lacking in your proposed VM realm.

Eh, it does support virtualization and the small linux distros don't need that much ram or cpu, if he runs one at a time and gives them 2Gb he would be ok.

Of course newer would be preferred but if it's expensive in his country this one will do the job.

 

[USAFRet]

Eh, it does support virtualization and the small linux distros don't need that much ram or cpu, if he runs one at a time and gives them 2Gb he would be ok.

Yeah, it does "support" virtualization.
Which does not necessarily mean "run well".

And it will "run" the Linux OSs on minimal RAM. But if you actually want to do anything real with them....8GB will be pretty slim.

 

[TerryLaze]

Yeah, it does "support" virtualization.
Which does not necessarily mean "run well".

It does mean that anything on the VM will run the same as if it would run on a g6405...that's the whole point of it.

 

[shootingstar1986]

Both of which will also need a new motherboard.

Given buying a new CPU, more RAM, and a new CPU....buy something much much newer.
The Pentium G6405 will be lacking in your proposed VM realm.

I won't get a new motherboard for the i5-3570. It will be an old Dell Optiplex with a Dell motherboard and I will get only 30 days warranty. But I will get a new motherboard for Pentium G6405 and both configurations cost the same.

 

[logainofhades]

You will need new ram, for the Pentium G also.

 

[USAFRet]

It does mean that anything on the VM will run the same as if it would run on a g6405...that's the whole point of it.

Well, after you take away the resources of running the host, sure.

Will it work at a basic level?
Sure.

Just don't expect any magical performance from it.

 

[shootingstar1986]

You will need new ram, for the Pentium G also.

Yes, even with new RAM for the Pentium G and refurbished RAM for i5-3570, it costs around the same.

 

[shootingstar1986]

It does mean that anything on the VM will run the same as if it would run on a g6405...that's the whole point of it.

If I used the same amount of RAM with G6405 and i5-3570, which one would perform better ?

 

[TerryLaze]

Well, after you take away the resources of running the host, sure.

Will it work at a basic level?
Sure.

Just don't expect any magical performance from it.

Running the host alone doesn't use up much resources, when idle it uses close to zero cpu and the ram you give to the VM it can use for itself.
When you run something heavy on the host sure it will impact performance a lot on the pentium but that's true for running anything alongside on a pentium not for VM specifically.

 

[USAFRet]

If I used the same amount of RAM with G6405 and i5-3570, which one would perform better ?

The Pentium has 2 cores, 4 threads.
The i5-3570 has 4 cores, 4 threads.

Probably not a lot of real difference betweeen the two. Especially at this budget level.

 

[logainofhades]

Neither option is very good, to be honest. I would almost argue that the Phenom II x6 route would be better, if not for the board limiting the ram to 8gb.

 

[Bob.B]

Current config:
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor
Motherboard: Asus M4N68T-M-LE-V2
Ram: 8 gb DDR3
SSD/HDD: 160 Gb SATA HDD
GPU: none
PSU: 400 watt
Chassis: Tower
OS: Debian 9
Monitor: Dell 20 inch monitor

My current config runs slow when I use Chrome and doesn't support dual displays.

I will be installing Debian 11 or Ubuntu in it. I will use Chrome on it. I will install Virtualbox on it and run 2-3 virtual machines on it for learning Kubernetes, Docker, Jenkins, Elasticsearch, Kafka, etc. Although I won't be running all of them at the same time. I am a Linux admin and transitioning towards Devops.

Just from the cpu end I wonder if you would be better off keeping your current setup and bumping the cpu up.

I'll let you chase that.