News People don't buy AI PCs because of AI — report shows the need for upgrades drives AI PC adoption

[Admin]

The adoption of AI PCs, especially the Windows Copilot+ PCs, is largely driven by the need to purchase new computers or upgrade existing laptops—not because of their AI capabilities.

People don't buy AI PCs because of AI — report shows the need for upgrades drives AI PC adoption : Read more

 

[hotaru251]

i mean...duh?

"ai" (as in llm) was never wanted by majority % of ppl.

Its a very niche group that actually cares...and unlike crypto fad it lacks the profit.

 

[Sleepy_Hollowed]

LLMs are extremely useless, especially since they require massive amounts of data versus other types of machine learning.

Maybe they should drop it? My autocorrect was much better before LLMs for example.

 

[DS426]

Funny as I'm thinking more about how the article transitioned to being about tablets vs. PC's. The latter continues to grow, adapt, and evolve to remain extremely relevant all these decades later. Their general / all-purpose nature makes them indispensable; yes, some have replaced them with phones and tablets and more will yet, but I don't see that happening in droves.

It continues to be annoying on how surprisingly naive that Microsoft and some hardware manufacturers thought that slapping "AI" in the name would significantly ramp up purchasing rates. At best, they can charge a little more (and they are). MS wasn't going to let Apple get the jump on them this time, and I guess they succeeded.

 

[JRStern]

There's no common use case or app that utilizes the NPU so of course not.
However, just the hype may help motivate a few more upgrades, like me, and already under pressure, such as it is, from Windows 11 that won't run on my antique.
I might like to play with the NPU myself, maybe, but that's not a common thing that will sell a lot of chips.

 

[Eximo]

I said as much in a different thread. The NPU doesn't matter at all. If it comes with the latest and greatest CPU, that is what I would look at purchasing.

I've been sitting on a 4th gen laptop for a while now. Really needs to be replaced at some point. I don't use my laptop often, and I would probably put Linux on there anyway at this point.

 

[tom111111]

Wow, what stupid comments.

 

[USAFRet]

Wow, what stupid comments.

Refute the comments, don't just call them stupid.

 

[ThomasKinsley]

Co-Pilot Plus branding is giving AI a bad name. I'm having a blast with my offline LLM. It takes up 8.6GB of RAM and more often than not gives very good answers back. The only drawback I've found is due to my aging GPU, which means I need to wait before I get any responses back. But in today's world these are not extravagant specs anymore. If manufacturers wanted to get people excited for an AI future, then they should be making customizable, trainable, personal, offline AI models because not everyone needs or wants the same AI model. A med student will want a different model compared to a professor, a pilot, or a reporter. Imagine a world where your voice/chat assistant was not as dumb as a box of rocks nor was it a soulless corporate-approved entity. That's what I want, and I suspect most of the consumer base is the same. AI should reflect our interests, not Microsoft's.

 

[yoji]

Seems like most posting here are aligned with me.. as a "normal" user I am completely unimpressed with AI at the moment.. to be fair I have only tried it to help with PC technical questions and it has been totally USELESS (i.e. a normal google search is better)
my Brother in law likes it in his work (he marketing) as he says its great at producing marketing proofs in the style and context of his employer.. but for me (no real interest in AI enhanced photos of celebs... or art in general) its completely underwhelming right now (but I am trying to keep an open mind).
SO is it "bubble", like 3D films/TV? or will it become a real "must have"?
and will I be able to get a PCI card to introduce a NPU? or that WAY to slow.. and will it only be viable by a complete CPU/chip change?

 

[Mama Changa]

No people buy an AI PC because they need a PC not AI, but they have to buy something with a BS sticker on it.

 

[watzupken]

How is that even surprising? I buy a laptop because I need one, or I want the newer processor, and/or, GPU. I don't think people will even notice if you leave the TOP metric out of the specs. Most people will use LLM, but these don't run natively. And the dumbest part, even the supposedly natively process LLM use case marketed by Microsoft requires internet connection to work and likely also intrude on your privacy.

The NPU on these new processors are just a waste of die space that could have been used for more meaningful purpose, or removed to save power.

 

[8086]

I do not want AI inside my PC. But I do want the ability to connect and disconnect to AI over the web as I see fit.

 

[helfer.pesche]

While I am very interested in AI development and use AI frequently, I don't see the point of having it running locally on my PC:

• The various online LLMs are perfectly fine for me and probably perform better than any limited offline LLM
• My employer also offers an LLM on a server for queries involving sensitive data

 

[NatalieEGH]

Were I to purchase an AI machine, I would probably not bother ever using the AI functionality. I do not care for AI enhanced anything. For things I would research, I do not down enough data for a computer to sift through everything.

2nd I do not trust that having an AI processor would not make it even easier for online companies to track what I am interested in even more than they do already. Like I looked for a PART for my car and for months was bombarded with advertisements about new cars. I am retired and have zero interest in becoming indebted for a vehicle that I would use at most 4 times a year going to the nearest military commissary or about 250 miles per year.

 

[logainofhades]

I disabled copilot on my laptop. Frankly I am tired of the AI hype.