Build Advice Personal Rig Upgrade Inquiry

[ka3fs]

Current Build

CPU: Intel i5-12400F
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Prime B660-PLUS D4
GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
STORAGE: Kingston NV1, 1TB, NVMe
PSU: SeaSonic FOCUS, 650 W
MONITOR: ASUS ROG Strix XG248Q, 1920 x 1080, 240 Hz

Looking to upgrade parts to reach ~240 1% lows (1080p) in online competitive first-person shooters (excluding battle royale/Battlefield-like/large-scale first-person shooters) like Halo, Call of Duty, CS:GO, Valorant, Overwatch, Quake Live, etc.

Budget ceiling is ~$2000 CAD but would rather spend ~$1000 CAD.

I am currently leaning towards the 13900K as it makes the most sense personally, but would love a second opinion.

If this isn't attainable given my budget or the limitation of the current hardware that is currently released, please let me know.

Thank you.

**edit

Here's a PCPARTPICKER list for my specs
Current Build

 

[Aeacus]

or the limitation of the current hardware that is currently released, please let me know.

This.

Even with the best: i9-13900K OCd to 5.6 Ghz + RTX 4090, you will not get ~240 FPS average on 1080p. Especially if you want the ~240 FPS to be 1% low.

With the best, you'd get ~212 FPS on 1080p.

While 1% low (99th percentile) would be ~147 FPS.

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-13900k-i5-13600k-cpu-review/5

So, why the high expectations? 🤔

 

[ka3fs]

This.

Even with the best: i9-13900K OCd to 5.6 Ghz + RTX 4090, you will not get ~240 FPS average on 1080p. Especially if you want the ~240 FPS to be 1% low.

With the best, you'd get ~212 FPS on 1080p.

While 1% low (99th percentile) would be ~147 FPS.

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-13900k-i5-13600k-cpu-review/5

So, why the high expectations? 🤔

I simply am not that well-versed in the current PC building world. So lets set my goal to half of what I originally wanted at 120 1% lows, do you think solely upgrading to the 13600K would be more impactful compared to solely upgrading to a 4070? Or would I have to upgrade to both to gain a meaningful upgrade?

 

[Why_Me]

I simply am not that well-versed in the current PC building world. So lets set my goal to half of what I originally wanted at 120 1% lows, do you think solely upgrading to the 13600K would be more impactful compared to solely upgrading to a 4070? Or would I have to upgrade to both to gain a meaningful upgrade?

That Asus Prime board will suffer from thermal throttling with the 13600K. I would add a 4070 for now and btw what are you using for a cpu cooler and what is your current RAM situation?

 

[ka3fs]

That Asus Prime board will suffer from thermal throttling with the 13600K. I would add a 4070 for now and btw what are you using for a cpu cooler?

Ah, I should have put that as well. I'm currently air cooling with a Deepcool AK400 single tower with a Noctua NF-P12, 1700 RPM strapped to it.

 

[USAFRet]

Looking to upgrade parts to reach ~240 1% lows (1080p) in online competitive first-person shooters (excluding battle royale/Battlefield-like/large-scale first-person shooters) like Halo, Call of Duty, CS:GO, Valorant, Overwatch, Quake Live, etc.

What do you get currently?

 

[ka3fs]

What do you get currently?

I am currently mostly playing Halo, and sometimes Call of Duty.

Last time I benchmarked Halo Infinite, it was around 160 1% lows but was in a controlled setting with bots, and only on one map. Anytime I benchmark the game, CPU usage is always 100% and GPU is ~95% so I assume it's pretty balanced but the game is poorly optimized and it's hard to gauge what it's actually doing (i.e., it will pull 100% of the GPU and CPU's resources even when it doesn't need it) Overall, the game feels really smooth using a 120 FPS cap (how I daily drive it) once I limit it to that so it's possibly around ~90 1% lows (this is a harsh estimate, 75% of the FPS cap) across all maps and modes but I don't have any statistical evidence or benchmarking data on that specifically.

For Call of Duty, I've just benchmarked it as it has it's own benchmarking utility built in.

Here's the image:

It seems like in fairly optimized games like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II, my GPU suffers greatly. But it's not as apparent at how closely this benchmark reflects the situation in Halo Infinite. That's why I'm at a crossroads, I don't have knowledge to come to conclusion on what to upgrade given Halo Infinite doesn't have any in-depth insight on how it using the resources like how Call of Duty does. I do know for sure, I would upgrade the GPU in a heartbeat if it was the only game I was playing.

 

[ka3fs]

That Asus Prime board will suffer from thermal throttling with the 13600K. I would add a 4070 for now and btw what are you using for a cpu cooler and what is your current RAM situation?

Forget to tell you about my RAM, it's Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) running in dual-channel at 3200 Mhz currently.

 

[Why_Me]

Forget to tell you about my RAM, it's Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) running in dual-channel at 3200 Mhz currently.

You could replace that with a set of 2x16GB DDR4 3600 along with the 4070 to eek out a few more fps. It would also make for smoother gameplay.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01

 

[ka3fs]

You could replace that with a set of 2x16GB DDR4 3600 along with the 4070 to eek out a few more fps. It would also make for smoother gameplay.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01

I mean I am going to have to say goodbye to my long-time friend, the 1080 Ti one day, so I guess I might have to bite the bullet soon enough. Jokes aside, it seems like I can't go wrong upgrading the GPU, or even the CPU for that matter but I hadn't even factored in the RAM/Motherboard. Thanks for the follow up!

 

[Why_Me]

This is what a total overhaul of your system would look like.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($379.00 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($94.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($140.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($804.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1659.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-04 21:59 EDT-0400

 

[ka3fs]

This is what a total overhaul of your system would look like.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($379.00 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler ($94.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($140.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card ($804.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1659.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-04 21:59 EDT-0400

Wow, great choices. Definitely saving a copy of this list. I can't even nitpick anything if I wanted to. You've been great help, I'm first going to upgrade the GPU as it's literally the oldest thing in my current rig.