PG278Q or waiting for PG279Q ?

[PrisonerVN]

I'm gonna upgrade my 1080p 60hz to a 144hz , it's a ROG SWIFT PG278Q it's TN Panel 1ms 144hz 1440p , and some days ago , i heard something about the ROG SWIFT PG279Q is coming out , IPS Panel 4ms 144hz 1440p , what should i will go for ? , i'm just care about the color a little bit , i just need a best monitor for fps gaming 😀 , Does 4ms and 1ms got any different , any guys got PG278Q and ACER XB270HU to compare with this ?

 

[guanyu210379]

Get fast IPS panel if you can.
The difference between 4ms and 1 ms is tolerable, many might even be able to tell the differences.
IPS offers better viewing angle (a lot better) and a lot better picture reproduction quality.
I own XB270HU and it is awesome.
I do not own PG278Q but I looked at it in several stores, do not get me wrong, this monitor is awesome for gaming but the viewing angle is not as good as XB270HU, a lot worse in fact.
PG278Q's picture reproduction is awesome for TN (the best among any TN panels I have ever seen) but still not as good as an IPS monitor.
There are pros and cons on both TN and IPS panels but, personally, I will take only IPS ones.
I have been falling in love with IPS monitors since my U2412M, I do not want to miss the IPS viewing angle.


Warning: XB270HU has quite massive mass production issue, about 10% probability that you will get defective monitor. If you can get it on perfect conditions like my XB270HU, you will love it.
I think, you would be better take the GSync IPS from ASUS. ASUS should have better quality control.
---I know..I know ..I am also aware of ASUS' callback action on MG279Q---

 

[PrisonerVN]

Yeah i know the color and the beautiful of IPS but , i just care a little bit about it , i just want a best monitor First Person Shooter game , because i'm always play FPS game , just play another game a little bit . 4ms and 1ms got a big different ?

 

[guanyu210379]

Nope! Not a big difference. XB270HU is awesome for gaming, tested on BF3, Witcher 3, Skyrim, ME3, Sanctum 2, etc.
Yup! Color and picture reproduction is not important to me too but viewing angle is very important in my opinion.
The only thing I do not want to miss from IPS monitor is the viewing angle.

 

[Paincake]

Everyone is jumping the IPS bandwagon, but IPS is really for artists and movie enthousiasts. For gaming the RoG Swift owns Acer's screen in my opinion. The only downside of the Swift is the agressive anti-glare coating, wich if you find it annoying can be a deal breaker. IPS glow and backlight uniformity issues will likely be an issue on the new screen, just like Acer's. On my october Swift, it has 99% perfect black uniformity and colours look amazing. Viewing angles are on the worse side, but it doesn't bother me, I don't sit on the couch and watch popcorn on a pc gaming monitor.

The new IPS Swift will most likely not have better backlight strobing due to loss of responce time. Also loss of 3D Vision as a feature is likely as well. It feels like Asus jumped the IPS hype bandwagon due to people raging about Acer's screen. I would personally go for the original Swift, but thats me.

 

[LocutusEstBorg]

Unless you want 3D Vision support on the PG278Q, wait for the PG279Q. I can tell you the viewing angles are annoying on the PG278Q.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?s=fbd1fadb99e938a570047d42bea0d896&p=28114580&postcount=13

 

[Paincake]

Unless you want 3D Vision support on the PG278Q, wait for the PG279Q. I can tell you the viewing angles are annoying on the PG278Q.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?s=fbd1fadb99e938a570047d42bea0d896&p=28114580&postcount=13

I'd take lesser viewing angle over ips bleed, backlight bleed and panel uniformity issues. You shouldn't play tennis while watching movies on your Swift anyway. Its intended for PC games mainly with keyboard and mouse on a desk. Not console controller on the couch.
I hope I'm wrong, but Acer's panel allready demonstrated what a nightmare IPS can be.

 

[guanyu210379]

The ACER's XB270HU does in deed problems in production line.
Around 1 from every 10 monitors has problems like backlight bleeding, dead pixels, etc.
But, if you can get a working one perhaps after 1-2 RMAs..or if you are lucky, you will get a working one out of the first box...XB270HU is amazing.
The technology of having IPS panels to work almost as fast as TN panels is new, this ends up in production problem...plus..ACER's lack of quality control.
Even ASUS's recalled/called back MG279Q, which has similar panel technology.

 

[PrisonerVN]

okay guys , tks for your help . i will go for PG278Q 😀

 

[guanyu210379]

PG278Q is also amazing, it is a TN panel but somehow can go near to IPS.
PG278Q's viewing angle and color accuracy are the best among all other TN panels, which I have ever seen, still below IPS tho'.
The nVidia 3D stuffs, I tend to ignore it but if you like it why not.
PG278Q is the best TN panel monitor available in the market today in my opinion.

 

[CROOKID]

I know you selected that poster as your best answer, but please don't just go with an answer because it is favorable to your wants. (not talking about selecting within Toms, but letting it determine your purchasing decision).

The only reason I say this is because while we are all excited, it is important to stay objective. Especially since he is completely wrong. IPS is not only "for artists and movie enthusiasts". Forgetting about the excellent viewing angles (which are more important than you think for gaming since most think they will be looking straight at the screen), but color representation ESPECIALLY the blacks is a HUGE factor.

There are two different color accuracies to look for and that is sRGB and Adobe RGB. Getting close to 100% Adobe RGB will likely cost more money because it is for professionals looking to ensure their work in PS will be accurate to their print. Perhaps that is what he is talking about but an IPS with 99-100% sRGB accuracy will far surpass any TN panel for ANY type of media. TRUST ME.

I know you posted this early in the month but I figured I'd give my two cents while you're likely within your return policy. Monitors and TVs are not like PC hardware. You should ALWAYS try to see the picture in person before making a decision. There is a reason why the current Asus solution has mixed reviews. My suggestion is to wait just one more month for the IPS of the very same monitor or you may regret it. In-fact, I'd bet quite a bit of money you'd regret it if you ever saw the IPS display in person.

Here is some additional information on IPS I suggest you read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPS_panel

Unless you want 3D Vision support on the PG278Q, wait for the PG279Q. I can tell you the viewing angles are annoying on the PG278Q.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?s=fbd1fadb99e938a570047d42bea0d896&p=28114580&postcount=13

I'd take lesser viewing angle over ips bleed, backlight bleed and panel uniformity issues. You shouldn't play tennis while watching movies on your Swift anyway. Its intended for PC games mainly with keyboard and mouse on a desk. Not console controller on the couch.
I hope I'm wrong, but Acer's panel allready demonstrated what a nightmare IPS can be.

Acer's production of it's IPS is not a reflection on the technology itself. Dell's Ultrasharp line was the best monitors for years due to their execution. IPS is not a new technology and hasn't been a "nightmare" on many other beautiful displays.

Also, while response time might be a little bit higher on IPS, it is more stable and offers clearer / sharper imagery.

 

[guanyu210379]

IPS technology is not new but IPS capable of 144Hz is new.
The production issues are in my opinion due to the new technology and the production is not yet stabilized.
Saying IPS is a nightmare is exaggerating, I have been using IPS since years e.g. my current 4 years old secondary monitor Dell U2412M.
Such statement is clearly something, which comes from someone who has never used IPS.

Backlight-bleeding, IPS bleed are a reasons for RMA, not a general behavior of IPS monitors.
Uniformity issue can happen also on TN panel, is still also included as reason to RMA.
Those defects are like dead pixels, basically something which should not happen on a fully working monitor.

 

[CROOKID]

IPS technology is not new but IPS capable of 144Hz is new.
The production issues are in my opinion due to the new technology and the production is not yet stabilized.
Saying IPS is a nightmare is exaggerating, I have been using IPS since years e.g. my current 4 years old secondary monitor Dell U2412M.
Such statement is clearly something, which comes from someone who has never used IPS.

Backlight-bleeding, IPS bleed are a reasons for RMA, not a general behavior of IPS monitors.
Uniformity issue can happen also on TN panel, is still also included as reason to RMA.
Those defects are like dead pixels, basically something which should not happen on a fully working monitor.

Completely agree.

You're right about the 144Hz being new. However, and I am sure you agree, I have just never met ANYONE who is well educated with monitors recommend a TN panel over an IPS that isn't recommending based on budget or what is available right now.

Simply put, given the original question, I feel he was guided in an unfortunate misdirection. Waiting for the same monitor basically becomes a TN vs IPS comparison. IPS always wins.

 

[Dr_Ripper]

It wasn't quite clear which i should get based on available information out there so I ended up buying both PG278Q and XB270HU to see for myself. It became crystal clear that the xb270hu had the (much) better of the two in displays but external of the asus swift won hands down. The IPS display in the acer is simply jaw-dropping. So much pop to colours and contrast ratio is fanfringingtastic. It's just like owning an apple retina display but with all the other goodies of TN, plus gsync, ulmb, etc.

I'm also an fps gamer who used 2d lightboost for the last 2 years for online competitive gaming (where my kdr literally trippled due to low persistence screen technology) and i have to say, the ulmb (successor/rebranding of 2d lightboost) on both of these monitors were equally as good as each other. I managed to pass a speed level of 25 in the PixPerAn blur tester readability test on both. Where as i could only go up to 17-18 on my older vg278h monitor. Nice improvement and overall brightness of lightboost increased too (slightly more on acer as well but only just).

FYI, xb270hu now works in 120hz for ulmb mode as well. For those who are interested in ulmb and was wondering....it performs equally as well as on the swift despite having slower response time.

However, the acer monitor external design sucks balls. I really wish it had the swift's external....it's bloody nice. Those looking out for a 1440p monitor may want to wait a little for the pg279q...the pg 278q IPS variant. I may in fact sell my acer for the asus version. Yes, the external is that good/nice.