[SOLVED] Phanteks Eclipse P600S what water cooling to pick?

[Neocro]

Hello
I made order on line for new PC with Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX case and
CPU cooler Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420, Water, 3x fan 140mm, (ACFRE00092A) . around 190 dollars ( so I'm looking something similar price range)
But i got contacted by store that cooling doesn't fit in that case.
Can you recommend me some cooling that fits this case for i7 12700k CPU and MB Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4?

Top
MAX. RADIATOR CLEARANCE

140mm Radiators: A:405mm B:146mm C:65mm
120mm Radiators: A:405mm B:126mm C:65mm*

Its kinda urgent since store where i bought everything waiting for my response.

Tnx in advance and sorry for my bad language its not my native language.

 

[Phaaze88]

The specs for the P600S list support for front mounted 420mm... I even found a couple pictures, so I wonder what makes them say that? You likely can't use HDD cages at the bottom, so maybe that's it..?

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Spoiler

Just step it down to a Liquid Freezer II 360?

 

[Neocro]

The specs for the P600S list support for front mounted 420mm... I even found a couple pictures, so I wonder what makes them say that? You likely can't use HDD cages at the bottom, so maybe that's it..?

images:

Spoiler

Just step it down to a Liquid Freezer II 360?

Tbh was thinking the same. But im not sure is it good?

 

[Phaaze88]

But im not sure is it good?

Is what good?

 

[Neocro]

Is what good?

Liquid Freezer II 360?
I want top mount so air flow stays good and GPU gets enough space

 

[Phaaze88]

Liquid Freezer II 360?
I want top mount so air flow stays good and GPU gets enough space

~OHH, I think I see why this happened in the first place.
You wanted the system integrator(s) to mount the Freezer 420 at the top. They tried, found it didn't work, and didn't try the front. It may have been against your wishes, but they still should've tried the front and offered the option anyway.


The Freezer 360 should be fine.

 

[Neocro]

~OHH, I think I see why this happened in the first place.
You wanted the system integrator(s) to mount the Freezer 420 at the top. They tried, found it didn't work, and didn't try the front. It may have been against your wishes, but they still should've tried the front and offered the option anyway.


The Freezer 360 should be fine.

They did offer to me but i refused. I want to find liquid cooler that can be mount on top

 

[Phaaze88]

I see... the Freezer 360 should work just as well.

 

[Neocro]

I see... the Freezer 360 should work just as well.

Ty gona check reviews
Im also opend for other sugestion aswell

 

[Phaaze88]

Im also opend for other sugestion aswell

There's not too much separating one AIO model from another:
-fans, the performance of which will vary between yours and others' personal settings anyway.
-aesthetics(subjective).
-pump design/location(affects radiator mounting options).
-optional/mandatory operational software(experience between users will vary).


Do you have a backup cooler planned for when the AIO fails?

 

[Neocro]

There's not too much separating one AIO model from another:
-fans, the performance of which will vary between yours and others' personal settings anyway.
-aesthetics(subjective).
-pump design/location(affects radiator mounting options).
-optional/mandatory operational software(experience between users will vary).


Do you have a backup cooler planned for when the AIO fails?

Not really
Why would it fali?

 

[Phaaze88]

Why would it fali?

Everything is finite.
Fans are cheap to replace.
Pumps are not - when they inevitably go, that's all she wrote. You'll need to swap in something, or just deal with the downtime while waiting for a replacement(or going to get one).
Keep the working fans, and toss out the rest; the vast majority of AIOs aren't user-serviceable.

 

[Neocro]

Everything is finite.
Fans are cheap to replace.
Pumps are not - when they inevitably go, that's all she wrote. You'll need to swap in something, or just deal with the downtime while waiting for a replacement(or going to get one).
Keep the working fans, and toss out the rest; the vast majority of AIOs aren't user-serviceable.

I have another PC, Laptop, PS4 i dont mind down time
It has warranty so shop is gona deal with it

 

[Phaaze88]

Okey-dokey!

It's an issue that gets overlooked by some DIY builders - when it happens, they're more or less stuck if there isn't something on hand. Prebuilt owners are even more screwed, as they may be required to send the entire PC back...

 

[geofelt]

The case is excellent for air cooling.
The 12700K is not an overly hot processor.
A Noctua NH-D15s should do the job nicely.
Noctua has a cpu suitability chart for their coolers.
Here is the chart for the i7-12700k:
https://ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/Intel-Core-i7-12700K-1579

Air will cost half as much, run quieter, be more reliable, and will not leak.
An AIO cooler does not last forever; it will eventually need to be replaced.
Air will eventually enter the tubes which can not be refilled.

If you have any sort of a strong graphics card, it will need to be cooled also.
With an aio, it is a catch 22 mounting issue.
If you mount the aio in front, the cpu will be cooled best, but the graphics card and motherboard vrm heatsink will get warmed air to work with.
OTOH. if you mount the radiator on top, the cpu gets warmed case air to work with and the cpu suffers.

 

[Karadjgne]

WTH. My NZXT Kraken X61 lasted 6 years being run 24/7 on a 3770k overclocked to 4.9GHz. And you know what finally gave out? The fans. Not the pump, not the cool ant. The fans.

12700k not overly hot? That cpu is fully capable of 220w+, getting mighty close to limits of a 250w NH-D15. It gets plenty hot, especially when set to performance modes or MCE equivalents.

Air will cost half as much, run quieter, be more reliable, and will not leak.
An AIO cooler does not last forever; it will eventually need to be replaced.
Air will eventually enter the tubes which can not be refilled.

Complete crock, and you know better. Aios don't make noise FANS do. And there's FANS on an aircooler too. So stop with the 'air is quieter', it's horse manure. That only applies to a specific few brands of coolers who specialize in ultra quiet fans. And you put 200w through a NH-D15, it's anything but quiet.

Eventually. You think the Op is going to still have that pc when he's old and a grandparent? The cpu, motherboard, even the psu will fail, EVENTUALLY.

Air absolutely does NOT enter the tubes. Ever. The coolant will EVENTUALLY start to break down into its chemical components, which does consist of oxygen molecules which EVENTUALLY will transverse the molecular structure of the tube. Same as a tire left out for years will eventually go flat.

I get you have a strong preference for aircooling, but keep it real.

 

[Neocro]

I have ordered today CPU cooler Arctic Liquid Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB
thank you all