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Do you think it's fair that Microsoft should have to give Windows users a choice when it comes to browsers but Apple does not? Let us know in the comments below!
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Do you understand that Apple doesn't have a 90% marketshare when it comes to just about everything short of servers, therefore it doesn't matter much that they bundle their browser with their OS?
 
[citation][nom]WheelsOfConfusion[/nom]Do you understand that Apple doesn't have a 90% marketshare when it comes to just about everything short of servers, therefore it doesn't matter much that they bundle their browser with their OS?[/citation]

Do you understand that the next step is for MS to have to offer OSX and Linux as alternatives to the Windows entirely? (of course i'm exaggerating slightly, Apple will never make OSX work on all PCs, only their PCs)

Windows 8 installer:
Option screen 1)
Option A - Ubuntu
Option B - OSX
Option C - Windows 8
 
Also, the entire idea of this selection screen is monopolistic: only those who have significant market share (or are popular because there made by the giant Google) go in the list. The selection screen itself stifles the market from growing.
 
I am not a fanboy of Microsoft like people would assume and yes Microsoft has a pretty dominate monopoly on things but ABSOLUTELY NOT I do not agree with Microsoft being forced make customers choose other products vs it's own when its bundled with THEIR software. Perhaps I wouldn't be so angry if it wasn't for Opera being the one behind it with under 2% of the world wide market share that got its way. I choose Opera because I like it and wanted a change as other customers have the right to do if what they are using doesn't work for them, its called competition. This raises the bar for other less known browsers like Avant (which I also like and used before Opera) to get their way.

Of all the anti-trust cases filed against Microsoft this one just seems like a kick 'em in the balls while they are down move and if anything I sympathize with Microsoft whom is fighting an uphill battle even being on top, because they ARE on top and everyone seems to want them to fall.

I am an Opera 10.10 user and been on since version 9 and I have disagreed with this tactic since the beginning. Most users are still going to choose IE even with the option because that is all they know so I don't really see this solving a thing except for people who like to install there operating system and not have to manually find the one they want online. The Netscape wars was another story that had some justification behind it, but this one I feel does not.
 
Since you can now select your own browser, shouldn't you have the option to install an alternative media player from Windows media player? Or at least have the option of not installing WMP? I think so...
 
Since you can now select your own browser, shouldn't you have the option to install an alternative media player from Windows media player? Or at least have the option of not installing WMP? I think so...
 
Microsoft should discontinue production immediately. Oh wait, they can't. They put themselves in this position. Microsoft is a vital part of our digital ecosystem and without it heads would roll.
 
I feel it's a double standard and not the right thing to do,but also I do not feel Microsoft is fulfilling it's commitment to providing an OS. They bilked the public for millions with VISTA and when they finally got VISTA fixed they turn around and charge us more for 7. Microsoft has a bad habit of producing incomplete programs that run marginally namely VISTA.
 
I personally don't like or use the IE, but I think that those complains are as ridiculous as the complains of a FAT American against McDonalds
 
I find it hilarious that the 2nd picture an IE window is open.

This really is just showing who has money and is making a browser, come on chrome has a tiny market share opera has a tiny market share but it's mostly European market share so it makes sense.

oh you redicious EU this is the problem with people banning together for common good they tend to go band together for the common ignorance.

take stem cells in the US for some reason people think it has to do with abortion and dead fetuses, when in actuality it comes from fertility clinics the left over fertilized eggs that were not implanted into the woman uterus.
Guess what happens if they don't go into stem cell research they are thrown into a furnace. T_T oh how ignorance plagues all.
 
I think it is a bunch of bull. I have windows 7 and i use firefox. I chose for myself anyways. Can I use internet explorer on a MAC????
 
When the main complaint were raised against how Microsoft handled the inclusion of IE in Windows the OS were far more dependent upon the browser than W7 is today.

It's unreasonable to ask Microsoft to include third party software with their Windows distributions, no other software vendor has to after all, as long as IE isn't required to be used, or even installed, to have full functionality of the OS.

W7 does better than previous versions of Windows as far as modularization goes, I'd ask that uninstallation means exactly that instead of keeping a compressed image of the complete OS on disk in addition to the components used but that's more a user complaint than a mandate from the EU commission.
 
[citation][nom]asldkj[/nom]i need a ballot screen for notepad app, calculator app, paint app, defrag app, ......[/citation]

If they do it with the browser, then they should do it with all the other apps in windows... I mean, what's the point of letting you choose your browser... then don't use windows at all if you don't like the apps in it...

Linux rulz
 
What about mspainter, calculator, notepad,cd burner... any program that comes with windows??
 
[citation][nom]sot010174[/nom]I still don't agree with MSFT marketing third party apps. As someone said before, maybe during the installation of the OS they should advertize Mac OS X and Ubuntu.[/citation]
Exactly and this is a direct comparison to this browser bs. In this respect MS is having it's rights violated and is being forced to do something that no other company would ever have to do. Imagine going to a Chevrolet dealership and they are required to give you the option of Ford or Toyota engine instead of the Chevrolet engine...that would never happen.

When a company does well and makes lots of $$ everyone else tries to get in there and take part of it because they feel they deserve a share of it when they don't. If these non IE browsers want more customers then that is their responsibility to get their customers not MS's. You need a browser to access the internet so it only makes sense that MS would naturally include it's own browser with it's operating systems.

If I were MS I would just ship Win7 to EU with no browser at all and see how fast this mess gets dropped.
 
I am so glad I live in Australia.

Last I checked Microsoft doesn't make any money at all from IE. It is there simply as a convenience for its customers of windows.
 
wow... this discussion lost its sense. Why browser choice is so important? "Because your choice affect my choice."
Why browser is so important. Because browser is used to access internet. Some sites only works in IE, and why? Because of this thinking: "If my site works for the most popular browser, why should I care about standards, etc!?" Conclusion, if everybody JUST use a default browser, internet will not free. Internet will be IE only for example.

And that's why notepad, calculator, paint, defrag don't matter!
 
cwize1... yes, Microsoft make money from IE. All products from Microsoft are directly (like Bing) or indirectly related with internet. IE is very important part of this. A Web application is done by two parts: the browser and the site. With IE, Microsoft try gain advantages in first part (or 50% percentage of all web applications).
 
stige -> I work for the EU and must admit you are completely right. Not only it is a money grabbing hypocrites as you would say but also highly incompetent leeches with no working habits nor skills. Speak and fart a lot, but that is more or less all.

Also do not forget who stood helping the European Commission in the Microsoft case. The so called ECIS. Take a look at their members 🙂 http://www.ecis.eu/about/membership.html . I think it is quite clear.

I am also for healthy competition, but this one is really too much. It is like you are a very successful producer e.g. of milk and the Commission will tell you to offer different types of packagings for your clients. From competitors as well. 🙂

The European Commission fine is peanuts for Microsoft anyway. Microsoft will get this money from all the licenses used inside the Commission only. 🙂 24K members working for the Commission each having Windows and Office package, Sharepoint is used extensively, Exchange servers, ...
 
May be MS should put browsers 6-12 on first page to please crooked EU officials and make their EU populus more upset at them for making MS doing it 😉
 
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