Planescape, losing interest after Ravel. Possible spoilers

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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Thusly tonij67@hotmail.com Spake Unto All:
>
>> What a fantastic game, I can't believe I waited this long to play it.
>> Probably the most absorbing and creative storyline I have ever seen.
>
> And it's got great replayability value. Unless you were playing
> walkthrough in hand, I can pretty much guarantee you've missed 1/2 of
> the content. And at least four endings.

On the strength of the recent threads, I'm replaying it for about the 6th
time. I'm only just up to the Buried Village, and I'm still finding things I
missed previously (the Dread Lim-Lim scene with the trainee wizards in the
Alley of Dangerous Angles, for instance - I'd missed that building on
previous plays).

> I'm of course officially a PS:T fanboi, but I don't know any rpg with
> as much replayability as PS:T.
> The third time through I used a walkthrough, and uncovered TONS of
> stuff I'd not seen my first two passes.
>
> But it's never as great as the first time. I remember the nasty shock
> at my first arrival at Fortress of Regrets, and the righteous ire: so
> help me, the guy who'd done this was going DOWN, if it was the last
> thing I did!
>
> Which it, as it turned out, was.

That's what I love about this game - its ability to evoke really heartfelt
emotional responses even though you know it's 'only' a game. There's only a
handful of others that even come close in that respect (System Shock springs
to mind - single best game at making me take the villain really personally).

--
Mark.
 
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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> writes:

> Unless you farm UnderSigil and/or the Modron Cube for a while, it's
> unlikely you'll get to see those 9th level spell animations.

Not true. I never went farming and got the 9th level spells before
the end of the game. Granted, I only got them just before the final
encounter... The last time I played I stayed as a fighter until
I got the second "bonus" for level, then switched to mage late
and still got all the spell levels.

Another place to look for some experience and extra spells as a mage
is by talking to Dakkon if with enough wisdom and/or intelligence.

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Darin Johnson
My shoes are too tight, and I have forgotten how to dance -- Babylon 5
 
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tonij67@hotmail.com writes:

> I choose to raise Grace next, for buffs and
> healing but I soon found out that I had no chance against TTO, he
> wasted me in short order.

You can manage to raise all party members if you follow the
conversation tree the right way.

--
Darin Johnson
Laziness is the father of invention
 
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Darin Johnson <darin_@_usa_._net> wrote:
>tonij67@hotmail.com writes:
>
>> I choose to raise Grace next, for buffs and
>> healing but I soon found out that I had no chance against TTO, he
>> wasted me in short order.
>
>You can manage to raise all party members if you follow the
>conversation tree the right way.

You can also avoid fighting at all if your int or wis is high enough.
This is probably the "best" ending.

-David
 
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Thusly Darin Johnson <darin_@_usa_._net> Spake Unto All:

>> Unless you farm UnderSigil and/or the Modron Cube for a while, it's
>> unlikely you'll get to see those 9th level spell animations.
>
>Not true. I never went farming and got the 9th level spells before
>the end of the game. Granted, I only got them just before the final
>encounter... The last time I played I stayed as a fighter until
>I got the second "bonus" for level, then switched to mage late
>and still got all the spell levels.

Well, you obviously played more as wizard than I do. I *DO* farm
UnderSigil and Modron Cube, and I've still only seen e.g. Infernal
Fury or Celestial Host cut-scenes when I've really concentrated on the
wizard aspect.

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Thusly David Bilek <dtbilek@comcast.net> Spake Unto All:

>What you're calling different endings are really variants on #2,
>correct?

Yes; I originally wrote "...depending on what one mean by 'different
ending'", but decided to shorten the text a bit.

To nitpick, however, there are two more endings (spoilers)...


..




..





..





..



....you can provoke Bones-of-the-Night into attacking you, and you can
accept to become the Silent King.

Well, sortof, anyway. The game certainly ends if you do either.

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with european opposition to the war in Iraq. 2003.
 
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David Bilek <dtbilek@comcast.net> writes:

> You can also avoid fighting at all if your int or wis is high enough.
> This is probably the "best" ending.

There are two ways to avoid fighting, giving two different cut-scenes.

--
Darin Johnson
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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>... and you can accept to become the Silent King.

If you ingore the fact that you miss out on half the game if you go that
route, I think actually that's the best of the endings.

Ross Ridge


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rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge) wrote:
>Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>... and you can accept to become the Silent King.
>
>If you ingore the fact that you miss out on half the game if you go that
>route, I think actually that's the best of the endings.
>

I never accepted. Do you get a cool cutscene?

-David
 
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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>... and you can accept to become the Silent King.

rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge) wrote:
>If you ingore the fact that you miss out on half the game if you go that
>route, I think actually that's the best of the endings.

David Bilek <dtbilek@comcast.net> wrote:
>I never accepted. Do you get a cool cutscene?

Nope.

Ross Ridge

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