[SOLVED] Please critique my build

[ADisturbedMink]

I am just getting into PC building and this is my first shot at it. My goal is to have a pretty decent gaming computer. I feel like I have looked everything over enough and I feel like it should work; however, I'm not positive. I would love some feedback and advice from people who know way more about this stuff than I do. Thank you in advance!
Here is my build list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dfj6F8

PS- Ideally, I would to keep the overall price where it is, but I am somewhat flexible.

 

[ADisturbedMink]

The 650w psu you chose will run an RTX 3060 Ti just fine. I'd give serious thought though to @Master Djoza recommendation of the 10700F cpu. That chip not only runs cool and uses less power, it kicks a$$ in gaming (FPS) not to mention that CM 212 Black Edition cpu cooler you chose will work just fine for it. Pair that up with a Z590 board and you're off to the races.

I will most likely upgrade my MB, and I've been talked into changing the cpu . I also want to thank all of you for helping me learn some new things and get a better idea of these things.

 

[Dj0gany]

If you are wondering, there is no performance difference between the 10700 and 10700F.
i7 10700 just has integrated graphics, the 10700F doesnt.

 

[Why_Me]

What are the benefits of that board over the one I picked. Not trying to be rude, just learn

The Z590 has PCIe 4 and it has more PCI lanes. The board you chose has onboard Wi Fi but unless you need Wi Fi no reason to pay more for it.

 

[ADisturbedMink]

Well look, if we are talking about real world situation's, something will for sure either die or malfuction in your pc. (happens to all of us)
For example, you graphics card.
It dies and you dont have any other GPU to test if the GPU is the problem or something else, and you just need to see if it will post.
So for trouble shooting, paying 30$ more for the 10700 is not a bad investment if you think about it.

That makes sense, I'll do that.

 

[ADisturbedMink]

It does, but its Z490 chipset.
He choose a different chipset.

What exactly does a chipset do?

 

[Dj0gany]

What exactly does a chipset do?

I think it will be easier if i just link you this.
If you have any question about chipset's after reading it, feel free to ask : )

 

[Dj0gany]

The Z590 will support the new 11th Gen Intel CPU coming out soon. The Z490 does not.

Doesn't Z490 support 11th Gen?
I mean like just processor/motherboard running support.
Im sure they do, dont they?

 

[Why_Me]

Doesn't Z490 support 11th Gen?
I mean like just processor/motherboard running support.
Im sure they do, dont they?

Most do with a bios update. Better off imo just going with a Z590 for about the same price.

 

[Nemesia]

Doesn't Z490 support 11th Gen?
I mean like just processor/motherboard running support.
Im sure they do, dont they?

Yep they do. I totally made a mistake. I thought it was a new socket for the new 11th gen. I'm stupid and tired

Deleting my idiotic post.

"all Z490 motherboards featuring PCIe 4.0 will support Intel's 11th Gen "Rocket Lake-S" CPUs."

 

[Dj0gany]

Yep they do. I totally made a mistake. I thought it was a new socket for the new 11th gen. I'm stupid and tired

Deleting my idiotic post.

"all Z490 motherboards featuring PCIe 4.0 will support Intel's 11th Gen "Rocket Lake-S" CPUs."

No worries xD
I just got confused since tech news is coming in every few hours and idk something's might've changed that i didnt notice.

 

[Why_Me]

OK what did we all miss in the OP's build ... he chose a VA panel over an IPS. Shame on all of us (including myself) for missing that.

 

[punkncat]

Honestly, IMO OP, if I were going to buy a 10th gen Intel it would be the 10850K. Value, performance, price all comes together there as far as I am concerned. The 10900 (non K) would also be a good choice to me if the price was right.
With that said, I have a Microcenter nearby and can pick that for $350.

 

[Dj0gany]

OK what did we all miss on the OP's build ... he chose a VA panel over an IPS. Shame on all of us for missing that (including myself).

I didnt even know that there are Asus high end gaming monitor's that use VA anymore.
Prices are so similar between VA and IPS that i tend to forget VA even existed. ( typing this from my 12 year old BenQ 2400WA dont mind me pls xD )

Edit:
By high end i mean gaming monitors.

 

[Why_Me]

Honestly, IMO OP, if I were going to buy a 10th gen Intel it would be the 10850K. Value, performance, price all comes together there as far as I am concerned. The 10900 (non K) would also be a good choice to me if the price was right.
With that said, I have a Microcenter nearby and can pick that for $350.

The i9's tmk aren't all that great at gaming from the reviews I've read. Unless the OP plans on doing a lot of video editing I don't see the advantage of that cpu.

 

[ADisturbedMink]

I didnt even know that there are Asus high end gaming monitor's that use VA anymore.
Prices are so similar between VA and IPS that i tend to forget VA even existed. ( typing this from my 12 year old BenQ 2400WA dont mind me pls xD )

Edit:
By high end i mean gaming monitors.

What does this mean? Is there something not compatible? Or is there something I should just swap out?

 

[punkncat]

The i9's tmk aren't all that great at gaming from the reviews I've read. Unless the OP plans on doing a lot of video editing I don't see the advantage of that cpu.

Not disagreeing, per se...but be careful of the "I saw a benchmark" type of performance standard for picking a proc. Chances are good that if you built two systems that were completely identical aside from an i5/i7/i9, turned off the frame counter, and you played a game you likely wouldn't be able to tell what CPU was in there. On the flip side of that. If you do any work editing, compressing photo, etc. and/or wait a few years there is a going to be a HUGE difference in a 12 thread and 20 thread CPU.

.02

And, it's easy for me to sit here and tell you how to spend your money. An i5 is a great chip, regardless of the "Ryzen fanboi" stuff you hear, and even my own opinion on the value window. If your main concern is only gaming the highest clock speed will be best for you. As an aside, the cooler you picked is a good value option. I have one in use myself, hard to beat. Just the same it is not going to give superb OC (thermal) overhead. It's a great choice to start, but if you get "serious" about OC this chip you WILL need a better cooler than that.

 

[Why_Me]

I didnt even know that there are Asus high end gaming monitor's that use VA anymore.
Prices are so similar between VA and IPS that i tend to forget VA even existed. ( typing this from my 12 year old BenQ 2400WA dont mind me pls xD )

Edit:
By high end i mean gaming monitors.

You're doing better than me atm. I'm down to a laptop after getting cleaned out in my divorce by the Belarussian. =/

@ the OP. IPS panels have a distinct advantage over TA panels in regards to pretty much everything including gaming.

Here's just one example of a decent priced 1080P IPS panel gaming monitor. The stand is cheap but that's an easy fix with a cheap vesa monitor desktop mount off of amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Pixio-Radeon-FreeSync-Esports-Monitor/dp/B08TYX8HN6/
Pixio PX248 Prime S 24 inch 165Hz IPS 1ms FHD 1080p AMD Radeon FreeSync Esports IPS Gaming Monitor $179.99

Here's two reviews of the older version of that monitor .. the 144Hz version.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pixio-px248-prime-24-inch-gaming-monitor

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-best-freesync-monitors-for-nvidia-gpus

2. Pixio PX248 Prime

 

[Dj0gany]

What does this mean? Is there something not compatible? Or is there something I should just swap out?

Its nothing to worry about.
Its not a incompatabilty.
Its a Display Type.
See there are 3 (most used) Display Types.
Each have their own advantages and dissadvantages
The difference's between the 3 can be found here.
Again, i could explain all of this to you, but i think its easier for both me and you if i just link you a correct page : ) .
If you have any question, just ask.

 

[ADisturbedMink]

Is the ASRock Z590 board compatible with SSDs?

 

[Dj0gany]

Is the ASRock Z590 board compatible with SSDs?

All of them, from SATA III to m.2 : )

 

[ADisturbedMink]

Not disagreeing, per se...but be careful of the "I saw a benchmark" type of performance standard for picking a proc. Chances are good that if you built two systems that were completely identical aside from an i5/i7/i9, turned off the frame counter, and you played a game you likely wouldn't be able to tell what CPU was in there. On the flip side of that. If you do any work editing, compressing photo, etc. and/or wait a few years there is a going to be a HUGE difference in a 12 thread and 20 thread CPU.

.02

And, it's easy for me to sit here and tell you how to spend your money. An i5 is a great chip, regardless of the "Ryzen fanboi" stuff you hear, and even my own opinion on the value window. If your main concern is only gaming the highest clock speed will be best for you. As an aside, the cooler you picked is a good value option. I have one in use myself, hard to beat. Just the same it is not going to give superb OC (thermal) overhead. It's a great choice to start, but if you get "serious" about OC this chip you WILL need a better cooler than that.

I will probably go ahead and upgrade the cooler, just to be on the safe side.

 

[carocuore]

Looks great except for the SSD but $110 for windows? and a home ed.? what a ripoff.

I'd go for another SSD brand like Crucial, WD or even Corsair if you want it to last more than a year without weird issues.
If you plan on playing games with that ditch wifi or the lag is gonna be a nightmare.

About Intel, well:

You won't be able to upgrade, 2 more years and it's a dead platform, IF they don't firmware lock the current mobos for the 11th gen CPUs

 

[punkncat]

The difference's between the 3 can be found here.

Very good article on the subject.

Something else just to complicate the issue. Consider whether you want G sync or "compatible" monitor. Actual G sync is expensive. There are some Free Sync monitors that are listed and have the nod from Nvidia as compatible, then there is Free Sync which is an AMD thing not (nodded) compatible which can be a real crap shoot in performance with Nvidia cards. Then there is V sync which is workable at the cost of quite a bit of possible performance.

 

[punkncat]

Looks great except for the SSD but $110 for windows? and a home ed.? what a ripoff.

I'd go for another SSD brand like Crucial, WD or even Corsair if you want it to last more than a year without weird issues.
If you plan on playing games with that ditch wifi or the lag is gonna be a nightmare.

About Intel, well:

You won't be able to upgrade, 2 more years and it's a dead platform, IF they don't firmware lock the current mobos for the 11th gen CPUs

Yes, but in the absence of available GPU, and sold out Ryzen iGPU you can have that better performance in a system you have no display on. At this current point in time (and without a box of extra GPU) Intel is in the cat bird seat. (I use a Ryzen by the way, not hating)

 

[Dj0gany]

Looks great except for the SSD but $110 for windows? and a home ed.? what a ripoff.

I'd go for another SSD brand like Crucial, WD or even Corsair if you want it to last more than a year without weird issues.
If you plan on playing games with that ditch wifi or the lag is gonna be a nightmare.

About Intel, well:

You won't be able to upgrade, 2 more years and it's a dead platform, IF they don't firmware lock the current mobos for the 11th gen CPUs

About the samsung ssd's, are you speaking from personal experience or?