[SOLVED] Please help me build a new supercomputer

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I just finally got my hands on a 3080 graphics card and I want to buy other parts to compliment it. I have built a computer before and feel confident in the process, but I'm pretty out of the loop regarding components these days. Can someone please recommend some other high end parts for me so my computer can dominate the universe? I can handle the simple things like case hard drive fans etc... I just need to know the right mobo CPU and ram to get.

Thanks!
 
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I just finally got my hands on a 3080 graphics card and I want to buy other parts to compliment it. I have built a computer before and feel confident in the process, but I'm pretty out of the loop regarding components these days. Can someone please recommend some other high end parts for me so my computer can dominate the universe? I can handle the simple things like case hard drive fans etc... I just need to know the right mobo CPU and ram to get.

Thanks!
What's the primary use of your intended PC, what country are you located and what's your budget?
 
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-06 16:02 EDT-0400
 
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Country is also good to know seeing how Europeans have a bad habit of saying "Europe' when asked where they are located. Someone needs to learn them that Europe isn't a country. Different prices and hardware that's in stock in those places.
ah you are getting that totally wrong. Europe is currently in the transitionperiod. To become some sort of "United states of europe". No local Identity anymore. But thats politics.. off topic.
 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-06 16:02 EDT-0400

Thank you, but this actually looks like it's a bit LESS than what I wanted to spend. I did have one real life friend suggest I get a 5900 Ryzen or 5950. Is the 5800 pretty comparable?

Anyway, I really wanted top of the line parts. I did minimal research just now and saw that intel just released a new chipset that's supposed to be top tier. Should I not be getting one of those instead?
 

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use and budget please

Use will be gaming mainly, and I'd like it to last me as long as possible. I usually get a new PC every 5-7 years and just get a really advanced one so it's still viable for a while.

Budget I am willing to spend another $2000 if needed to get the dream computer I want.
 
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Country is also good to know seeing how Europeans have a bad habit of saying "Europe' when asked where they are located. Someone needs to learn them that Europe isn't a country. Different prices and hardware that's in stock in those places.

Yes I am sorry I should have included this. I am in the USA!
 

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Thank you, but this actually looks like it's a bit LESS than what I wanted to spend. I did have one real life friend suggest I get a 5900 Ryzen or 5950. Is the 5800 pretty comparable?

Anyway, I really wanted top of the line parts. I did minimal research just now and saw that intel just released a new chipset that's supposed to be top tier. Should I not be getting one of those instead?

For gaming, there isn't much difference, but given how long you intend to keep this rig, a 5900x makes sense, if you can get one.
 

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Thank you, but this actually looks like it's a bit LESS than what I wanted to spend. I did have one real life friend suggest I get a 5900 Ryzen or 5950. Is the 5800 pretty comparable?

Anyway, I really wanted top of the line parts. I did minimal research just now and saw that intel just released a new chipset that's supposed to be top tier. Should I not be getting one of those instead?
The new chipset is stupid weak as opposed to the previous gen.
If you look into gaming, Intel is the (ever so slightly) better choice right now (because it apparently handles the gpu slightly better or games /benchmarks are optimized for it for marketing purposes, there have been quite some successful lawsuits against Intel on this regard) . But if it comes to longevity by raw processing power you can't beat the ryzen. Especially in workstation sector. I expect the ryzen to age way better. And it's more the multitalent with insane performance.

Done let yourself be fooled less cores with more performance is better. The ryzen cores are pretty much of equal performance. And if I think back, the argument was: intels 4 cores are better because programs don't support 4 cores anyways. Well guess what. An 8 core ryzen would have fared much much better lately because programs do support that now. Asides you might want to use more that one program at a time ;)

I have a 5950x and rtx 3090 myself. Can't really do much wrong with it.

Ryzen supports faster ram.
For the 5900 vs 5950 there should not be much of a difference..

Can find my benchmark with parts here for reference. It was taken stock, without overclocking at all with a noctua nhd14 air cooler in silent setting.
https://www.3dmark.com/pcm10b/1136474

Make sure to invest im good cooling. Modern cpus overclock / clock down according to temperature. A massive air cooler should be totally fine but make sure it fits the case by size. Fans and case have that in the specs.

Im a big fan of noctua, they are just super quiet abs i think they look really great /industrial. You can also get black fans from them. But in all honesty, that's just my choice. Other great options are available..
 
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I did minimal research just now and saw that intel just released a new chipset that's supposed to be top tier.
Top tier for a year until they decide to add 49 dummy ground pins to the socket and toss the entire platform into the bin, I mean it's ok if you have a wallet thick enough to afford replacing your mobo and CPU every a couple of years.

The 5800 will do for games, but the 5950 will be overkill, the downside is that it's price was insanely inflated.
The mobo I chose is enough for that CPU, there are better of course but the price goes over the $500 mark.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($449.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($192.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3733 CL17 Memory ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($294.64 @ Amazon)
Total: $1327.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

For the case definitely look for something with a front mesh, avoid solid plastic fronts as those parts need airflow.
I'm not a big fan of RGB or having distracting lights on my computer, that's why I haven't added neither a case nor fans/gimmicks. I went with regular fans for my build, simple but noisy at 100%, I don't mind the noise though, my old PC was like a jet engine so I got used to it.
 
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True. The current lga 1200 socket apparently is end of life after just one year. I had the same experience in my apprenticeship with socket lga 1150.

That said, after some 6-7 years now, i think the am4 plattform will also go end of life soon
 
Use will be gaming mainly, and I'd like it to last me as long as possible. I usually get a new PC every 5-7 years and just get a really advanced one so it's still viable for a while.

Budget I am willing to spend another $2000 if needed to get the dream computer I want.
Both AMD and Intel will have a new line of cpu's, MB's and DDR5 by next year so I wouldn't dump too much money into a gaming build right now especially with the price of graphics cards atm. Save that money for a super overpriced video card.

I'd do something like this right now.

https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-ii-atx-desktop/p/2AM-000Z-00053
LIAN LI LANCOOL II BLACK Tempered Glass ATX Case $107.99

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005
Super Flower Leadex III 850W 80+ Gold, 10 Years Warranty, Three-Way ECO Mode Fanless, Silent & Cooling Mode, FDB Fan, Full Modular Power Supply, Dual Over Power Protection $129.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157976
ASRock B560 Steel Legend $129.99

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...8070110700f_core_i7_10700f_processor_16m.html
Intel Core i7-10700F $269.99

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PK-R1-Contact-Silencio/dp/B07H25DYM3/
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Air Cooler $39.99

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164176
Crucial Ballistix 3200 Desktop Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 $87.99

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-2tb/p/N82E16820226902
Mushkin Enhanced Pilot-E M.2 2280 2TB PCIe Gen3 x4 NVMe 1.3 3D TLC Internal SSD $214.99

https://www.ebay.com/p/8040744263?iid=233943756768
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA 10GB GDDR6X Graphics Card $2,299.00

Total: $3,281

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Optix-G273QF-Anti-Glare-Adjustment/dp/B08S999YC8/
MSI Optix G273QF 16:9 Aspect Ratio Anti-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms 2560 x 1440 (QHD) 165Hz Refresh Rate Tilt Adjustment Nvidia G-Sync Compatible 27" Rapid IPS Gaming Monitor $329.99

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsai...eed-keyswitches-black/6453148.p?skuId=6453148
CORSAIR - K65 RGB MINI $109.99

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfxuqjt38dA
 

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With 10th Gen Intel, you had the 10600k/10700k/10900k which went from very good/mediocre/great. With the 11th Gen Intel that changed, went to great/mediocre/miserable. It's so bad that even the 10900k surpasses the performance of the 11900k in everything production and goes head to head in gaming. You don't even get the standard 5% uplift in performance except in a few games. It's seriously sad considering the price differences and hype.

5800x stomps on a 11700k all day long, everywhere and either ties/beats/stomps the H. out of the 11900k in everything tested except 1 or 2 games. Even in some production apps where Intel previously dominated the results, All the 5 series are slaughtering Intels, even the lowly 5600x beating the pants off a 11900k, the 5900x doubling Intels best performance.

It's seriously a bad day to be Intel. It's like Intel releasing a FX8320 and Amd releasing the i7-4790k bad.

Intels best cpu currently is the 11600k. It's seriously not worth considering anything bigger other than the 10900k. Everything else in between to two cpus is garbage for the price.

Best cpu for the 3080 is a 5900x, if you can get one. A 5800x is right on its heals and performance wise can be a better value.
 

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With 10th Gen Intel, you had the 10600k/10700k/10900k which went from very good/mediocre/great. With the 11th Gen Intel that changed, went to great/mediocre/miserable. It's so bad that even the 10900k surpasses the performance of the 11900k in everything production and goes head to head in gaming. You don't even get the standard 5% uplift in performance except in a few games. It's seriously sad considering the price differences and hype.

5800x stomps on a 11700k all day long, everywhere and either ties/beats/stomps the H. out of the 11900k in everything tested except 1 or 2 games. Even in some production apps where Intel previously dominated the results, All the 5 series are slaughtering Intels, even the lowly 5600x beating the pants off a 11900k, the 5900x doubling Intels best performance.

It's seriously a bad day to be Intel. It's like Intel releasing a FX8320 and Amd releasing the i7-4790k bad.

Intels best cpu currently is the 11600k. It's seriously not worth considering anything bigger other than the 10900k. Everything else in between to two cpus is garbage for the price.

Best cpu for the 3080 is a 5900x, if you can get one. A 5800x is right on its heals and performance wise can be a better value.
Even the I5 Scratches on the Performance. It's not quite fully there but for a maximumly 20% performance increase (If all eight cores are running 100% load) is quite embarassing indeed.

But yeh, everybody is posting builds so, lets go on.
I post pretty much my current rig, except I have an mini itx setup and I will adapt the parts. Ill try to insert a cheaper alternative but you can just as well use the build as abase and exchange the parts yourself or askif they would fit .

I don't have a budget and you ask to dominate the universe, so I give parts to dominate the universe.
I do have some experience in Building Computers and expect all parts to fit together.

You said, LED not required, lets go on with the stealth look

first thigs first, the 3080 is set. (Would be nice to know the model for visually matching the parts)

Case:
I'm doing minni itx builds with custom casing so I dont know much about what the market has to offer here and it is such a question of taste after all. Insert any case here, just make sure, it supports fan height of at least 165 millimeters or choose a smaller cpu fan from noctuas compatibility list
Fractal Design Meshify C White (90$) (select the black version)

CPU: You want stomp? You get stomp. Though out of stock currently. Two choices:
Mainboard:
ASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Dual M.2, SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.2 Gen 2 (330 $)
Main reason I choose this mainboard is because of bios flashback without cpu. Cheaper options are available, but I highly recommend one with cpu less bios flash. This can save you tons of hurdle and frustration in the future.

CPU Cooler:
I am a BIG fan of noctua products.They are super silent, and look super cool (I think) Nothing LED Here, fully blacked out. Keep in mind that the modern CPU's boost faster when cooled better. Money is good invested here, Id rather save up on the mainboard:
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black, 140mm dual-tower CPU cooler (Black) (170$)

RAM:
G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3800 (230$)
Note, we use 2 bars of 32 GB dimms and not 4 * 16 - Its easier to handle for the controller and might be faster.
cheaper but only slightly slower option (and no led) would be:
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (180$)

Harddrive:
Corsair MP600 Pro M.2 2280 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 (400$)
Note we are going for an pcie 4 SSD. Brings ~6gb/s speed, I have it myself and am very happy with it. It comes with a cooler though. Your mainboard has a cooler as well which might look better. In order to use it, you have to remove the heat sink from the SSD. I did that myself and found it quite possible although a little terrifying at first when you have never done it. Otherwise you can just leave the cooler of the motherboard away. If you plan on picking a second ssd, they are often on the back of the mainboard, so pick a slower one because the heatsink might not fit and because of the cooling in the back of the mainboard...
possibly cheaper options include:
Western Digital WD BLACK SN850 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0 (200$)

PSU:
CORSAIR HX Series HX750 CP-9020137-NA 750W ATX12V v2.4 / EPS12V 2.92 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified (160 $)
I totally get it, it might sound sketchy. I would rather have gone with the 800W But that is out of stock.
It should still be enough considering the fact that I am pretty much running the same setup except for a 3090 in my rig with 750 Watts PSU (SFX because of mini itx casing not much choice. But you have plenty of choice. Litterally any other good quality 800 watts PSU Will do such as
https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005 ($130)
Super Flower Leadex III 850W 80+ Gold, 10 Years Warranty, Three-Way ECO Mode Fanless, Silent & Cooling Mode, FDB Fan, Full Modular Power Supply, Dual Over Power Protection

What are we looking at price-wise?
2140$ for the full Setup ( Excluding gpu) or 4440 with GPU.

Now. That is full overboard but who knows. Maybe there is someone like that out there :sneaky:
Are there some savings with no big Performance impacts? Absolutely:
1670$ for the more "reasonable" Setup ( Excluding gpu) or 3970 with GPU.

Keep in mind the mainboard has only 2 fan headers as far as I know.
Noctua NF-A14 140mm Fan (30$) 4 times
Noctua NF-F12 120 mm fan (36$) 1 time

Sample picture:
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Computer would look pretty simillar, just with black fans. Image is from google.

which performance is to be expected right out of the box?

expect performance probably in 1-max 10% top rankings stock without overclocking whilst beeing extremely silent.

Im running a simillar setup except for the GPU and its going to be mini itx pretty soon. Benchmark for reference and used parts here (stock settings):
https://www.3dmark.com/pcm10b/1136474

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