Question Please Help Noob Understand Monitors for FPS

[savdawg]

Hi everyone,

I almost exclusively play FPS like Warzone, BO6, Apex and am thinking about switching from my 1440p monitor to a 1080p with a higher refresh rate. I currently have a Gigabyte M27QA with a max refresh rate of 180hz. My GPU is a 5070 TI. Hoping to clarify a couple things:


- If I'm getting anywhere from 240 - 300 FPS at 1440p on 27 inch monitor, how many FPS could I expect to get on a 1080 24inch monitor?

- Is there any reason why a display port 1.4 connection would have lower FPS than using an HDMI 2.1? I've used both and it seems that I get slightly lower FPS with the display port. My monitor is not 2.1 compatible so I figured it should not make any difference (+ this way I can take advantage of higher refresh rate via display port)

- Similarly, if I had an hdmi 2.1 monitor, (+ cable and GPU), would my FPS go up? Or does this simply impact highest possible monitor refresh rate?

Ultimately while I like the 1440p resolution, I don't care as much about high picture quality as I do about maxing out FPS (within reason). I feel like my GPU and CPU are pretty new and capable and am wondering what monitor set up would let me take advantage of that

Appreciate all your help

 

[Darkbreeze]

Considering the focus of your question it would be very helpful to know your full hardware specifications.

 

[TerryLaze]

- If I'm getting anywhere from 240 - 300 FPS at 1440p on 27 inch monitor, how many FPS could I expect to get on a 1080 24inch monitor?

Without any other info....
from 240-300 FPS...

Try reducing your resolution in the games (as well as the quality as low as you would be ok with) and see if you get more FPS, some games have a hard limit, like 300FPS, and others you might already get as many FPS as your hardware (cpu/gpu) allows.

 

[savdawg]

Considering the focus of your question it would be very helpful to know your full hardware specifications.

Yeah of course, no problem -

CPU - Ryzen 7 9700x
GPU - GeForce 5070 TI
RAM - 64 gb Corsair Vengeance 6000mt/CL30
SSD - 2tb NVME
PSU - 1000w Corsair
Thermalright dual air cooler

As mentioned current monitor is the Gigabyte M27QA

Let me know if i can share anything else

 

[savdawg]

Without any other info....
from 240-300 FPS...

Try reducing your resolution in the games (as well as the quality as low as you would be ok with) and see if you get more FPS, some games have a hard limit, like 300FPS, and others you might already get as many FPS as your hardware (cpu/gpu) allows.

I was under the impression that playing games at higher resolutions generally tend to decrease your FPS, all else equal, given the GPU has to work harder because it's rendering more pixels -- is that not the case?

That's also why I was contemplating a lower resolution -- if my GPU can't produce 300+ FPS then no point in getting a 300hz+ monitor

 

[Glenwing]

I was under the impression that playing games at higher resolutions generally tend to decrease your FPS, all else equal, given the GPU has to work harder because it's rendering more pixels -- is that not the case?

That's also why I was contemplating a lower resolution -- if my GPU can't produce 300+ FPS then no point in getting a 300hz+ monitor

If the GPU is the limiting factor then yes, but that's not always the case.

You can just set your resolution to 1080p and find out what you get, you don't need to have a 1080p monitor.

 

[thestryker]

The difference in frame rate between DP/HDMI in your case may be because DP 1.4 can run the monitor's full refresh rate and HDMI 2.0 cannot. So it might be as simple as some minor overhead difference with the actual display output. There should be zero difference in performance between the two connectors when everything is identical.

With regards to maximum frame rates your CPU determines what that will be not your GPU. You can always adjust settings to lower the load on your GPU if you're GPU limited, but whatever the CPU is capable of is the maximum possible. That's why the above posters suggested dropping resolution/going to low settings. This will show you best case scenario with your system what you can gain.

 

[ak47jar3d]

Hi everyone,

I almost exclusively play FPS like Warzone, BO6, Apex and am thinking about switching from my 1440p monitor to a 1080p with a higher refresh rate. I currently have a Gigabyte M27QA with a max refresh rate of 180hz. My GPU is a 5070 TI. Hoping to clarify a couple things:


- If I'm getting anywhere from 240 - 300 FPS at 1440p on 27 inch monitor, how many FPS could I expect to get on a 1080 24inch monitor?

Won't matter past the refresh rate of your monitor. If your gpu renders 300 but your monitor is 180hz, you cant see the rest of the frames past 180.

- Is there any reason why a display port 1.4 connection would have lower FPS than using an HDMI 2.1? I've used both and it seems that I get slightly lower FPS with the display port. My monitor is not 2.1 compatible so I figured it should not make any difference (+ this way I can take advantage of higher refresh rate via display port)

It doesn't.

- Similarly, if I had an hdmi 2.1 monitor, (+ cable and GPU), would my FPS go up? Or does this simply impact highest possible monitor refresh rate?

Cable doesn't matter much. Get the best monitor possible and get the cable that monitor requires for the best performance.

Ultimately while I like the 1440p resolution, I don't care as much about high picture quality as I do about maxing out FPS (within reason). I feel like my GPU and CPU are pretty new and capable and am wondering what monitor set up would let me take advantage of that

High refresh rate 1080 is very cpu demanding. If you need the most frames, your cpu will be the bottleneck.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

I'm having CounterStrike flashbacks to where FPS (and ping) were the only two things ever discussed.

Higher FPS doesnt magically make you better nor does it improve gaming for 98% of people and out of those 2% it's eSports.

A 5070 just to run 1080 is an absolute waste of money.

 

[savdawg]

Got it. Thanks for your (+ everyone's help).

I was playing around and found a couple things:

- FPS doesn't really change when I lower the resolution to 1080

I'm having CounterStrike flashbacks to where FPS (and ping) were the only two things ever discussed.

Higher FPS doesnt magically make you better nor does it improve gaming for 98% of people and out of those 2% it's eSports.

A 5070 just to run 1080 is an absolute waste of money.

honestly, well put. i agree.

i think i'll look for a well priced 1440p 240hz monitor with new hdmi/display ports

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Got it. Thanks for your (+ everyone's help).

I was playing around and found a couple things:

- FPS doesn't really change when I lower the resolution to 1080

honestly, well put. i agree.

i think i'll look for a well priced 1440p 240hz monitor with new hdmi/display ports

And just to clarify, I wasnt trying to be "Robert" saying that. A better statement would have been FPS only matters to an extent where then it's diminishing returns and resolution should be the aim.

1440p 240hz is a good mid-ground bridging the two and sounds like it will meet your needs. Good choice and should achieve excellent results.

 

[Darkbreeze]

If you "need" 240 fps, you are REALLY splitting hairs. Because above around 120 fps, humans can literally not tell the difference anyhow. Yes, some people say they can, but science says they are full of crap. And yes, I'm including Hz and FPS in the same category. Because for gaming purposes, the refresh rate and the FPS are literally linked to the same ideal.