Question please help with my new build

[unseenhawk]

Hello,

I've a rig since 2012, it's been working nice and I've only upgraded the GPU from 550ti to 1650 not super that what was available during corona, anyways this my old system :
Asrock z77 extrem4
Procceor i5 3570k
Memory 16gb
SSD 64gb for system and 500 for storage
PSU cooler master 550w MWE V2

I did some searching and this is what I decided to buy, I'm out of the loop so please advice me what I should buy, keep in mind that I will not research after your advice and I'll buy immediately, I'm not a gamer nor a programmer just use it to watch streams, videos, browsing, if something is overkill for me please say so if it's a bad choice and need upgrade also please tell me, somewhat future proof too please.

This is what I'm intending to buy :

Motherboard :
Asrock B760, if not good please suggest Asrock as I want o stick with Asrock also should I take B or H series also I would like a DDR5.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B760 Pro RS/index.asp

Processor :
Not sure what I should get i5 13600kf or 14600kf you decide or any other suggestion on i5s

RAM/Memory :
Corsair Vengance 32gb
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...mhz-c40-memory-kit-a-black-cmk32gx5m2a4800c40

PSU :
Corsair RMe750w I'm not really happy about the wattage I think I need 550w no ? nor the price 125$, Seasonic unavailable in my country and the cost of shipping from the U.S more than the cost of the PSU, I'm not sure, please suggest something unless you think this thing worth it, keep in mind this is the new thing ATX 3.0 and 12VHPWR not sure what it means but there is a hype about it.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

SSD :
Kingstone NV2 250gb M.2 2280 NVMEe 3000 MB/s
for windows and system
and Kingstone NV2 500gb for storage
https://shop.kingston.com/products/nv2-nvme-pcie-ssd?variant=43142421872832

This is 3000 MB/s for a user like me, should I get the Samsung one with 7000 MB/s or I'll not notice a difference, please advice.

GPU :
Now I've the hated 1650 normal one not the super, should I stick with it or get this, I like MSI Gamingx fans, please advice because it's not a cheap buy, because I'm still on the fence to buy or not to buy RTX 3050, so please advice stick with 1650 buy 3050 or buy another one !
MSI RTX 3050 Gamingx 6GB
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3050-GAMING-X-6G
MSI RTX 3050 Gamingx 8G
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3050-GAMING-X-8G
The price difference is 62$ tell me, please

Case :
Silverstone Seta Q1 Silent found it for 150$, I wish the Fractal Design Define 7 but the shipping cost twice the price of the case, what do you think about this case ? i like black boxes no rpg or fish tanks with led lights

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/SETAQ1/

CPU cooler :
I've been working on stock all these 12 years but I see people always say throw the stock cooler and get a decent one, so I decided to get one.
be quite! Pure Rock 2 Slim for 30$
https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/2248
I see some people suggest Thermalright Phantom Spirit and Thermalright Peerless Assassin, they cost 50-60$ if worth it, I buy it you just tell me.

I guess that's it, I hope I didn't forget a component, thanks in advance for the help.

​

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($134.33 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.00 @ MSI)
Total: $841.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-18 15:05 EDT-0400

 

[Eximo]

Quite a few things. I agree, overspending on the CPU, you should be putting that money into the GPU for gaming.

K series CPUs don't come with coolers. Pure Rock Slim is a little light for 13600kf/14600kf, 12400F suggested above will come with an adequate cooler. Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit are fine choices though.

If you are doing DDR5, you really want to stick to the CAS Latency of 36 or less, and speeds like 5600-6400 for best results. Otherwise with Intel you can save a decent chunk by using DDR4 3200/3600 and getting a DDR4 motherboard.

Your motherboard pick is okay for a mid-range build.

Storage drives are quite small, 1TB is the minimum SSD size I would purchase. As for speed, PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 and the end speed isn't that important. Having a dram cache is a nice to have, but as long as you can get your games on there, the read speeds will still be sufficient for everything you would want to do.

RM750e is enough for a mid-range GPU (These days that is quite a lot) RTX 3050 6GB doesn't even require external power and is a very light GPU. RTX 3050 8GB is also not great.

That chassis is okay, but it has pretty restricted airflow. I wouldn't put a power hungry CPU or GPU in such a chassis.

 

[Eximo]

Without knowing part availability, currency, and the budget, hard to make a recommendation. The parts you have selected equate to around a $1000 build.

RX6600, RTX3060, RX6650XT should all be doable.

 

[unseenhawk]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($134.33 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.00 @ MSI)
Total: $841.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-18 15:05 EDT-0400

Thank you very much for your suggestions, I really appreciate it.

 

[Bob.B]

Hello,

I've a rig since 2012, it's been working nice and I've only upgraded the GPU from 550ti to 1650 not super that what was available during corona, anyways this my old system :
Asrock z77 extrem4
Procceor i5 3570k
Memory 16gb
SSD 64gb for system and 500 for storage
PSU cooler master 550w MWE V2

I did some searching and this is what I decided to buy, I'm out of the loop so please advice me what I should buy, keep in mind that I will not research after your advice and I'll buy immediately, I'm not a gamer nor a programmer just use it to watch streams, videos, browsing, if something is overkill for me please say so if it's a bad choice and need upgrade also please tell me, somewhat future proof too please.

This is what I'm intending to buy :

Motherboard :
Asrock B760, if not good please suggest Asrock as I want o stick with Asrock also should I take B or H series also I would like a DDR5.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B760 Pro RS/index.asp

Processor :
Not sure what I should get i5 13600kf or 14600kf you decide or any other suggestion on i5s

RAM/Memory :
Corsair Vengance 32gb
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...mhz-c40-memory-kit-a-black-cmk32gx5m2a4800c40

PSU :
Corsair RMe750w I'm not really happy about the wattage I think I need 550w no ? nor the price 125$, Seasonic unavailable in my country and the cost of shipping from the U.S more than the cost of the PSU, I'm not sure, please suggest something unless you think this thing worth it, keep in mind this is the new thing ATX 3.0 and 12VHPWR not sure what it means but there is a hype about it.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

SSD :
Kingstone NV2 250gb M.2 2280 NVMEe 3000 MB/s
for windows and system
and Kingstone NV2 500gb for storage
https://shop.kingston.com/products/nv2-nvme-pcie-ssd?variant=43142421872832

This is 3000 MB/s for a user like me, should I get the Samsung one with 7000 MB/s or I'll not notice a difference, please advice.

GPU :
Now I've the hated 1650 normal one not the super, should I stick with it or get this, I like MSI Gamingx fans, please advice because it's not a cheap buy, because I'm still on the fence to buy or not to buy RTX 3050, so please advice stick with 1650 buy 3050 or buy another one !
MSI RTX 3050 Gamingx 6GB
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3050-GAMING-X-6G
MSI RTX 3050 Gamingx 8G
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3050-GAMING-X-8G
The price difference is 62$ tell me, please

Case :
Silverstone Seta Q1 Silent found it for 150$, I wish the Fractal Design Define 7 but the shipping cost twice the price of the case, what do you think about this case ? i like black boxes no rpg or fish tanks with led lights

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/SETAQ1/

CPU cooler :
I've been working on stock all these 12 years but I see people always say throw the stock cooler and get a decent one, so I decided to get one.
be quite! Pure Rock 2 Slim for 30$
https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/2248
I see some people suggest Thermalright Phantom Spirit and Thermalright Peerless Assassin, they cost 50-60$ if worth it, I buy it you just tell me.

I guess that's it, I hope I didn't forget a component, thanks in advance for the help.

​

If your not a gamer why would you build a gaming rig?

 

[geofelt]

My thoughts:

Motherboard seems fine to me.

On the processor, I would try very hard to not buy the F suffix versions and save a few pennies.
If your discrete card fails, you are dead until it gets resolved.

I5-13600K and i5-14600K are comparable in performance with the 14600K perhaps a tad better.
Nobody overclocks any more. gamers depend on turbo boost instead.
You can't overclock on the B760 chipset anyway.
Take a look at the non K versions like the i5-14500 or 13600 which are almost as fast and come with a good stock cooler. Check out the passmark performance numbers.
For most games, it is the single thread performance that matters most.
Run the cpu-Z bench on your I5-3570K.
You should get a score of about 383.
The i5-14500 for example scores 795:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/unqm4d

Your ram selection is fine.
Intel does not depend on fast ram for performance.

If your games are more fast action type, look for a strong gpu upgrade.
I think 3050 upgrade is not large enough.
You may be disappointed if you do not see magical results.

750w corsair rme is fine. If you can manage 850w, even better.
The 14500 is strong enough to run games aat higher resolutions and you may need 850w to power such a future graphics card upgrade.
A psu draws only the power demanded of it regardless of the max capability.

On the SSD, at least buy a single 1tb ssd. It will cost you less than 250+500,
250gb may not be enough for windows.
Do not chase those fast sequential benchmarks. You will not be able to tell any difference.
Those benchmarks are unrealistic. They are run on new drives at high queue depths .
Most activity is small random I/o.

Your parts are not overly hot so your selected case will be ok.

 

[unseenhawk]

Quite a few things. I agree, overspending on the CPU, you should be putting that money into the GPU for gaming.

K series CPUs don't come with coolers. Pure Rock Slim is a little light for 13600kf/14600kf, 12400F suggested above will come with an adequate cooler. Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit are fine choices though.

If you are doing DDR5, you really want to stick to the CAS Latency of 36 or less, and speeds like 5600-6400 for best results. Otherwise with Intel you can save a decent chunk by using DDR4 3200/3600 and getting a DDR4 motherboard.

Your motherboard pick is okay for a mid-range build.

Storage drives are quite small, 1TB is the minimum SSD size I would purchase. As for speed, PCIe 3.0 or 4.0 and the end speed isn't that important. Having a dram cache is a nice to have, but as long as you can get your games on there, the read speeds will still be sufficient for everything you would want to do.

RM750e is enough for a mid-range GPU (These days that is quite a lot) RTX 3050 6GB doesn't even require external power and is a very light GPU. RTX 3050 8GB is also not great.

That chassis is okay, but it has pretty restricted airflow. I wouldn't put a power hungry CPU or GPU in such a chassis.

Thank you very much for taking the time to help in depth, cool stuff !

I buy my things from newegg, Amazon Global Store both free shipping, my budget is just I'm not going to buy things that I'm not going to use, I'm not a gamer but I'd like to have a decent PC that will lasts me some years.

I'm not sure yet about Processor/CPU still open for suggestions.

You recommended to replace the fan, I changed the CPU Cooler to :
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120, though not sure what's the difference between the 2 since both available and have almost same price :

Phantom Spirit 120 – Thermalright

www.thermalright.com

Phantom Spirit 120 SE – Thermalright

www.thermalright.com

Based on your suggestion I changed my basket from the previous one to :
G.SKILL Trident Z5 Series 32GB DDR5 6400 CAS Latency 32
https://www.gskill.com/product/165/371/1642064625/F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5K-F5-6400J3239G16GA2-TZ5K

For storage drivers, I'll review my choice again because I don't download anything or store but I'll compare prices and see if there is a difference.

I'll stick with the PSU since no objection but don't you think 750w is too much, the price too 125$.

I respect your thought on the case, but I really like those silent black boxes, I'll check it again.

Thanks again.

 

[unseenhawk]

Without knowing part availability, currency, and the budget, hard to make a recommendation. The parts you have selected equate to around a $1000 build.

RX6600, RTX3060, RX6650XT should all be doable.

I really like this suggestion, I found the RX6600 in a decent price even cheaper than the RTX3050, this is the one I found :

Asrock RX6600

ASRock Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8GB

<b>Clock: GPU / Memory</b>, Boost Clock: Up to 2491 MHz / 14 Gbps, Game Clock: Up to 2044 MHz / 14 Gbps, Base Clock: 1626 MHz / 14 Gbps<br /><b>Key Specification</b>, 7nm AMD Radeon™ RX 6600, 8GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 2 Architecture, DirectX 12 Ultimate, PCI Express 4.0 Support, 1 x 8-pin Power...

www.asrock.com

Thanks again man.

 

[unseenhawk]

If your not a gamer why would you build a gaming rig?

Hello Bob.B thanks for your input, what I should build I'm really open for suggestion, I just want a decent PC not a skin and bone and that somewhat future proof and lasts me some years.

 

[RaidHobbit]

Hello,

I've a rig since 2012, it's been working nice and I've only upgraded the GPU from 550ti to 1650 not super that what was available during corona, anyways this my old system :
Asrock z77 extrem4
Procceor i5 3570k
Memory 16gb
SSD 64gb for system and 500 for storage
PSU cooler master 550w MWE V2

I did some searching and this is what I decided to buy, I'm out of the loop so please advice me what I should buy, keep in mind that I will not research after your advice and I'll buy immediately, I'm not a gamer nor a programmer just use it to watch streams, videos, browsing, if something is overkill for me please say so if it's a bad choice and need upgrade also please tell me, somewhat future proof too please.

This is what I'm intending to buy :

Motherboard :
Asrock B760, if not good please suggest Asrock as I want o stick with Asrock also should I take B or H series also I would like a DDR5.
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B760 Pro RS/index.asp

Processor :
Not sure what I should get i5 13600kf or 14600kf you decide or any other suggestion on i5s

RAM/Memory :
Corsair Vengance 32gb
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...mhz-c40-memory-kit-a-black-cmk32gx5m2a4800c40

PSU :
Corsair RMe750w I'm not really happy about the wattage I think I need 550w no ? nor the price 125$, Seasonic unavailable in my country and the cost of shipping from the U.S more than the cost of the PSU, I'm not sure, please suggest something unless you think this thing worth it, keep in mind this is the new thing ATX 3.0 and 12VHPWR not sure what it means but there is a hype about it.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu...ular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

SSD :
Kingstone NV2 250gb M.2 2280 NVMEe 3000 MB/s
for windows and system
and Kingstone NV2 500gb for storage
https://shop.kingston.com/products/nv2-nvme-pcie-ssd?variant=43142421872832

This is 3000 MB/s for a user like me, should I get the Samsung one with 7000 MB/s or I'll not notice a difference, please advice.

GPU :
Now I've the hated 1650 normal one not the super, should I stick with it or get this, I like MSI Gamingx fans, please advice because it's not a cheap buy, because I'm still on the fence to buy or not to buy RTX 3050, so please advice stick with 1650 buy 3050 or buy another one !
MSI RTX 3050 Gamingx 6GB
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3050-GAMING-X-6G
MSI RTX 3050 Gamingx 8G
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3050-GAMING-X-8G
The price difference is 62$ tell me, please

Case :
Silverstone Seta Q1 Silent found it for 150$, I wish the Fractal Design Define 7 but the shipping cost twice the price of the case, what do you think about this case ? i like black boxes no rpg or fish tanks with led lights

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/SETAQ1/

CPU cooler :
I've been working on stock all these 12 years but I see people always say throw the stock cooler and get a decent one, so I decided to get one.
be quite! Pure Rock 2 Slim for 30$
https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/2248
I see some people suggest Thermalright Phantom Spirit and Thermalright Peerless Assassin, they cost 50-60$ if worth it, I buy it you just tell me.

I guess that's it, I hope I didn't forget a component, thanks in advance for the help.

​

If you are 100% certain you won`t be doing gaming then your proposed build is overkill. Its a gaming rig.

i3/N100: For the internet, watching films, light gaming, and running applications like word and excel.

i5: For gaming, light programming, light rendering, and light streaming.

i7+: You don`t need to know about these.

You are after an i3/N100 and should not spend more than £200 for your needs. Here are a couple of examples but there are many out there:

HP 14s - £179.00: https://www.hp.com/gb-en/shop/product.aspx?id=893D3EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
Windows S will limit you to buying apps through the Window Store, but it can be upgraded for free to the Home Edition. 4GB of RAM is enough for two or three internet pages open at once without you having a lag.

LarkBox - £151.77:

LarkBox X 2023 Intel N100

CHUWI LarkBox X mini-PC 2023-12th Gen Alderlake N100 3.4Ghz DDR5 M.2 2280 NVME Wifi 6 DP1.4 4K Triple Screen Output Desktop Mini PC

store.chuwi.com

This mini-pc will meet your needs perfectly well. You can have loads of internet pages open at the same time with its 12GB of RAM. This is a good option if you`ll have more than one large spreadsheet open at once otherwise the extra RAM is also overkill. There are no import fees to the UK, they might hit you for VAT, and shipping costs. In which case it will be about the same as the HP 14. But, usually for me, it slips through customs with no VAT being added and arrives in about a week.

To summarise this is ideal for you:

i3: From the 11th, 12th, 13th, or 14th gen will be great. The later the gen, the more years you`ll get out of it, but any will last a while.

8GB RAM: This is the sweat spot for you, to cover having a lot of browser pages open at once.

GPU: None, the integrated graphics will meet your needs.

Cost: I would buy a prebuilt model seeing as its going to be less than £200.

If you are a student and on benefits the £200 is refundable if you keep your receipt.

 

[unseenhawk]

My thoughts:

Motherboard seems fine to me.

On the processor, I would try very hard to not buy the F suffix versions and save a few pennies.
If your discrete card fails, you are dead until it gets resolved.

I5-13600K and i5-14600K are comparable in performance with the 14600K perhaps a tad better.
Nobody overclocks any more. gamers depend on turbo boost instead.
You can't overclock on the B760 chipset anyway.
Take a look at the non K versions like the i5-14500 or 13600 which are almost as fast and come with a good stock cooler. Check out the passmark performance numbers.
For most games, it is the single thread performance that matters most.
Run the cpu-Z bench on your I5-3570K.
You should get a score of about 383.
The i5-14500 for example scores 795:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/unqm4d

Your ram selection is fine.
Intel does not depend on fast ram for performance.

If your games are more fast action type, look for a strong gpu upgrade.
I think 3050 upgrade is not large enough.
You may be disappointed if you do not see magical results.

750w corsair rme is fine. If you can manage 850w, even better.
The 14500 is strong enough to run games aat higher resolutions and you may need 850w to power such a future graphics card upgrade.
A psu draws only the power demanded of it regardless of the max capability.

On the SSD, at least buy a single 1tb ssd. It will cost you less than 250+500,
250gb may not be enough for windows.
Do not chase those fast sequential benchmarks. You will not be able to tell any difference.
Those benchmarks are unrealistic. They are run on new drives at high queue depths .
Most activity is small random I/o.

Your parts are not overly hot so your selected case will be ok.

Thanks for your detailed reply and thoughts, I really appreciate it.

For CPU I added this to the basket i5 14500 :
never thought of this CPU, thanks man.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-24m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html

Since Intel doesn't depend on fast rams, I need to go back again and compare prices and see but yes I learned something.

For PSU I need to check again and get back to you guys.

I'll get bigger SSDs .. yes you guys have a point, and going to ignore those MB/s speeds .. I agree.

What do you think about the RX6600 ?

ASRock Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8GB

<b>Clock: GPU / Memory</b>, Boost Clock: Up to 2491 MHz / 14 Gbps, Game Clock: Up to 2044 MHz / 14 Gbps, Base Clock: 1626 MHz / 14 Gbps<br /><b>Key Specification</b>, 7nm AMD Radeon™ RX 6600, 8GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 2 Architecture, DirectX 12 Ultimate, PCI Express 4.0 Support, 1 x 8-pin Power...

www.asrock.com

Thanks man you have been amazing.

 

[RaidHobbit]

The i5 14500 is still utter overkill. Its 14 cores! That`s overkill for present day gaming, with a load of other things open at the same time.

If you are in the UK and want to be sure we are telling you the truth then how about email CCL Computers customer service, tell them your needs, and ask for a spec sheet to buy.

Serious, anything above £200 and you are in overkill land.

 

[Bob.B]

Hello Bob.B thanks for your input, what I should build I'm really open for suggestion, I just want a decent PC not a skin and bone and that somewhat future proof and lasts me some years.

Look through the amd G series cpu's they have a decent amount of cpu and video power for the stuff you want to run.

Save a buck.

 

[unseenhawk]

If you are 100% certain you won`t be doing gaming then your proposed build is overkill. Its a gaming rig.

i3/N100: For the internet, watching films, light gaming, and running applications like word and excel.

i5: For gaming, light programming, light rendering, and light streaming.

i7+: You don`t need to know about these.

You are after an i3/N100 and should not spend more than £200 for your needs. Here are a couple of examples but there are many out there:

HP 14s - £179.00: https://www.hp.com/gb-en/shop/product.aspx?id=893D3EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB
Windows S will limit you to buying apps through the Window Store, but it can be upgraded for free to the Home Edition. 4GB of RAM is enough for two or three internet pages open at once without you having a lag.

LarkBox - £151.77:

LarkBox X 2023 Intel N100

CHUWI LarkBox X mini-PC 2023-12th Gen Alderlake N100 3.4Ghz DDR5 M.2 2280 NVME Wifi 6 DP1.4 4K Triple Screen Output Desktop Mini PC

store.chuwi.com

This mini-pc will meet your needs perfectly well. You can have loads of internet pages open at the same time with its 12GB of RAM. This is a good option if you`ll have more than one large spreadsheet open at once otherwise the extra RAM is also overkill. There are no import fees to the UK, they might hit you for VAT, and shipping costs. In which case it will be about the same as the HP 14. But, usually for me, it slips through customs with no VAT being added and arrives in about a week.

To summarise this is ideal for you:

i3: From the 11th, 12th, 13th, or 14th gen will be great. The later the gen, the more years you`ll get out of it, but any will last a while.

8GB RAM: This is the sweat spot for you, to cover having a lot of browser pages open at once.

GPU: None, the integrated graphics will meet your needs.

Cost: I would buy a prebuilt model seeing as its going to be less than £200.

If you are a student and on benefits the £200 is refundable if you keep your receipt.

The i5 14500 is still utter overkill. Its 14 cores! That`s overkill for present day gaming, with a load of other things open at the same time.

If you are in the UK and want to be sure we are telling you the truth then how about email CCL Computers customer service, tell them your needs, and ask for a spec sheet to buy.

Serious, anything above £200 and you are in overkill land.

Mate, I really understand where you coming from and it never came to my mind that you're deceiving me or anything like that, I see you as a person who wants to help and I really appreciate that much, and I appreciate the time you took to advice a newbie like me and your enthusiasm for my sake .. I understand that.

I'm not in the UK, I want my PC to be a Desktop, I like to sit back relax on Lazyboy Recliner and watch some stuff rather than regular TV, I've a 4K LG monitor infront of me, I also want something to run smoothly and lasts me some years, and somewhat future proof, I'm not planing to game but may be I use someday not sure but it's not my aim.

Thanks, brother.

 

[RaidHobbit]

Mate, I really understand where you coming from and it never came to my mind that you're deceiving me or anything like that, I see you as a person who wants to help and I really appreciate that much, and I appreciate the time you took to advice a newbie like me and your enthusiasm for my sake .. I understand that.

I'm not in the UK, I want my PC to be a Desktop, I like to sit back relax on Lazyboy Recliner and watch some stuff rather than regular TV, I've a 4K LG monitor infront of me, I also want something to run smoothly and lasts me some years, and somewhat future proof, I'm not planing to game but may be I use someday not sure but it's not my aim.

Thanks, brother.

Still overkill, even with those needs.

If you were after a gaming rig right now, to last 10+ years, with everything set to ultra, I would be recommending to you a i5-13400. For 5 to 10 years a i5-12400.

Gaming is mostly quad core at the moment, a few will take advantage of 6, even less 8. The one you are set to buy has 14. Its absurd for gaming, never mind `I might game in the future`.

 

[geofelt]

RX6600 is in the same tier that you now have:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

I might defer on ANY gpu upgrade.
What you have now seems more than adequate unless you are a fast action gamer or have a 4k resolution monitor.
Or, if you want, look for something in the RTX4060 or RX7600 class.

 

[unseenhawk]

Still overkill, even with those needs.

If you were after a gaming rig right now, to last 10+ years, with everything set to ultra, I would be recommending to you a i5-13400. For 5 to 10 years a i5-12400.

Gaming is mostly quad core at the moment, a few will take advantage of 6, even less 8. The one you are set to buy has 14. Its absurd for gaming, never mind `I might game in the future`.

ok, I got it .. don't be mad at me I'll keep things down and minimal, thanks mate.

RX6600 is in the same tier that you now have:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

I might defer on ANY gpu upgrade.
What you have now seems more than adequate unless you are a fast action gamer or have a 4k resolution monitor.
Or, if you want, look for something in the RTX4060 or RX7600 class.

Thanks again, man .. I really appreciate it, I'll keep what I have till it's time I even heard rumors saying don't upgrade because there is a new GPU in 10 months or so something something like drivers or new technology.

 

[geofelt]

There is ALWAYS something better coming.
If you wait for it, you will wait forever.
Buy what you need when you need it.
A large higher resolution monitor is very nice for desktop work.
I would look for one.
Wait until you have it before you buy the graphics upgrade.
You will get a better idea of what you need.

 

[unseenhawk]

There is ALWAYS something better coming.
If you wait for it, you will wait forever.
Buy what you need when you need it.
A large higher resolution monitor is very nice for desktop work.
I would look for one.
Wait until you have it before you buy the graphics upgrade.
You will get a better idea of what you need.

True that .. true, I see in your signature you have a 27" 4k LG monitor, is it IPS or OLED, what you think about it ?

What do you think about those new OLED monitors, also should I go for 27" or 31-32" I think the 32" is big for me.

I'll list the parts of my new PC later.

Thank you.

 

[geofelt]

The 27" LG is a side monitor, rotated 90 degrees.
It holds static stuff like email and task manager.
It matches the vertical height of my main LG C2 48" monitor.
I have no issues with it.

On the main 48" I made a mistake and did not have a changing background image and got a little burn in. The 48" is a bit annoying in that it frequently wants to do a pixel refresh when I turn it on.
A possible negative to OLED. But, the payback is a stunning picture.

As to size, I like larger, particularly at 4k resolution.
Otherwise normal text can get too small.

 

[unseenhawk]

The 27" LG is a side monitor, rotated 90 degrees.
It holds static stuff like email and task manager.
It matches the vertical height of my main LG C2 48" monitor.
I have no issues with it.

On the main 48" I made a mistake and did not have a changing background image and got a little burn in. The 48" is a bit annoying in that it frequently wants to do a pixel refresh when I turn it on.
A possible negative to OLED. But, the payback is a stunning picture.

As to size, I like larger, particularly at 4k resolution.
Otherwise normal text can get too small.

Thank you, this is my final parts for your review and advice.

I had to go to LG show room to check OLED monitor and man it was a trip .. as you said the picture is stunning, I felt like I'm inside what's going on .. like inside things I can reach out and touch it .. I don't think I'll ever go back to non OLED after seeing this thing, they have a decent discount on them, a real discount so I think I'm going for it.

Monitor :
I've not decided yet, but I'm looking for 27- not more than 32" also checking this Nano IPS panel monitors.
for now this seems legit though I'm not really a fan of curved monitors :
Alienware 32 4k QD-OLED Monitor AW3225QF
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/ali...5qf/apd/210-blmq/monitors-monitor-accessories

PSU :
I went for 850w as your recommendation, and after research and checking with cultlist list site https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ I went for XPG/ADATA Core Reactor 850w Gold with 10 Years warranty, it's Tier A, has many excellent reviews and the price was more than good so I ordered it instead of ordering Corsair or Cooler Master, it's hefty for me now but yes you have a point, things always change.
XPG Core Reactor 850w Gold Fully Modular
https://www.xpg.com/us/xpg/641

CPU :
Intel i5 14500 already ordered, I didn't order an aftermarket cooler
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-24m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html

Motherboard :
Asrock B760 PRO RS already ordered
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B760 Pro RS/index.asp

SSD :
Kingston NV2 M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe 3500MB/s
1 - 250GB for System/Windows, already ordered
2- I took your advice and ordered 1 TB for Storage, already ordered
https://shop.kingston.com/products/nv2-nvme-pcie-ssd?variant=43142421872832

RAM :
G.Skill Trident Z5 16GBx2 DDR5 6000 CL 30 silver color, non RPG already ordered
https://www.gskill.com/product/165/371/1649667352/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-TZ5S-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-TZ5S

GPU :
I've not decided yet.

Case :
I really need help with this, I found many normal or weird cases but the silent ones that doesn't require crazy shipping costs and the price is good are those, they all equal on price with Silverstone being more expensive by around 25$ :
Fractal design R6

Define R6

Designed from the ground up, the Define R6 goes beyond iteration with a profound stride of innovation – a sizeable step forward from preceding models of the world-renowned Define Series.

www.fractal-design.com

Silverstone Seta Q1

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/SETAQ1/

Antec P10C
https://www.antec.com/product/case/p10c

Cheers.

 

[geofelt]

The cases are essentially the same.
See if you can find build reviews for each.
You may find some features or problems that might impact your decision.
For instance, the Antec can mount a dvd drive; most newer cases do not have that capability.

I kind of like the Antec P10C

 

[unseenhawk]

The cases are essentially the same.
See if you can find build reviews for each.
You may find some features or problems that might impact your decision.
For instance, the Antec can mount a dvd drive; most newer cases do not have that capability.

I kind of like the Antec P10C

I went for Antec P10C, this rest my case, thank you very much for answering my questions, they were objective and thoughtful not some cookie cutter answers .. it's really appreciated, man .. not to forget the rest who helped me Why_Me, Eximo, and RaidHobbit .. peace.