PNY Lists GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB For $1,000, RTX 2080 8GB, Specs

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A top end video card used to be around 200 bucks in 2002-2003. The price has gradually increased but there will be a point where it no longer makes sense for most to get the best of the best in which I know most dont anyway but even the middle of the road graphics cards today cost what a high end card cost back 5 -6 years ago.

What we really need is for AMD to get back in the game and take the crown to bring Nvidias pricing back into reality for the mainstream.
 
Hm. I currently got the MSI Gaming X GTX 1080 Ti (beutiful and silent with the right fan curve). Not sure the upgrade to RTX 2080 Ti would be worth it? Should I skip this generation?
 


People have bought Titans.... does that answer your question?
 


Bring "worth it" is subjective. Only when there are actual benchmarks can someone guage if it's worth it to them.
 


From the specs I would say you would be safe with a GTX 1080 Ti FTW3.

I don't see the RTX 2080 beating a GTX 1080 Ti from the specs.

The RTX 2080 Ti looks like a monster though.
 


Specs aren't the end all, be all. Architectural changes can make a huge difference. Historically, the flagship "ti" model is slightly eclipsed by the number 2 card. I wouldn't expect this to be any different. However, the 1070 actually beat the 980ti, so we will see how much of a performance boost they get this time.
 


Guess we'll have to wait for user benchmarks until the final verdict is given.
 

If the 2080Ti is going to be 11GB, then I'd hazard a guess that the Titan T will have 12GB.

Likely getting pretty deep into diminishing return territory in terms of visual quality if your games need that much VRAM to max out the GPU shaders.
 


These cards to me are just rebranded FTW3's and Titan V's, what's really an improvement here?
 
Basically, in the best scenario with lithography and CUDA core count, you can expect a 40% performance increase over last generation, which means a 2080 would be similar to a 1080 TI. Which makes sense.
 
My only hope is that Navi on 7nm become a game changer and disrupt the market with dissuasive pricing next year. If they can release a 200$ card matching 1080 GTX performance, that would be a game changer. No way in hell a 2060 can do that when the best to expect is 40% in performances.
 


Partners get the chips and start work on designs well ahead of launch.



Its going to be all about that RTX performance for this generation. With Microsoft DXR launching if games start to take advantage of that feature it will make games look fantastic. All DX12 GPUs can run it but only this generation can do it in hardware, from nVidia at least, while the 10 series and older will do it via software. So the 20 series will just blow the 10 series away, well except the Titan V since its Volta and has the Tensor cores.



Doubt it. If they hit 1080 performance they would either price equally or just under.

However AMD has to worry way more than nVidia about the crypto market. If it spikes again or their next GPU crushes performance there they get price hiked to the moon thanks to it. For a time the Vega 64 was more than a 1080Ti.



No it would take proper competition from AMD and of course no price fixing like they have been accused of both doing in the past. Without competition nVidia controls the market and sets the price.

it sucks that we can no longer get top of the line GPUS for $500-$600.
 
Way too rich for my blood for a card just for gaming. Hopefully their mid range is more appropriately priced, else it'll be yet another generation I'm skipping (mining inflation ruined the 10xx prices). Too bad Nvidia knows there are enough people willing to pay whatever price they want to charge: I'm looking at you Titan V.
 

AMD and Intel are no different. They are all for-profit publicly traded companies and it is their responsibility to the shareholders to maximize profit. AMD merely lacks a sufficiently powerful GPU to command larger premiums in the GPU/GPGPU market and is desperate to claw back market share in the HEDT/server markets so it needs to hit the right balance between volume and per-unit margins there.
 


I completely agree. Any smart company knows they can charge what their market will sustain. For me, gaming isn't that important to cost me 3x car payments. For some it might. It just surprising that there were some that actually spent over $3k for the Titan V just to game (pcpartpicker has some builds listed with them).
 
People usually pick a card based on budget, not performance. So a lot of people who would have bought a 1080 last generation will not necessarily be in the market for a 2080. The exception is crypto miners, so maybe Nvidia is raised MSRP because they are targeting crypto miners - not a great plan IMO since that fad is pretty much over for awhile.

With a new generation, I feel that they need to offer more performance for the same amount of money, because otherwise there are already "more performance for more money" options being rejected by the 99.9999999% of the market who aren't using overclocked Titans in SLI.
 


On the plus side, used 1080's and 1070s are going to be dirt cheap once miners upgrade to 2080s
 
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