Question Poor performance of GPU, flickering, stuttering and screen tearing

[gusttavin]

Good evening everyone, I hope you can help me.

3 years ago my config was an asus prime h510m-e, 1x8 ddr4 2400mhz, sata ssd, rx 550, i3-10100f and a generic thrones 500w source, this config being simple was much smoother some games, fixed fps without dropping.

The problem started after I decided to upgrade. I bought a rtx 3060 eagle gigabyte and a 600w gamemax gs source. From then on I started to notice that the games were no longer the same. I felt a lot of stuttering and flickering on the screen, even outside of games the pc screen would become distorted or shake, fps would drop, high frametime. I thought it could be a bottleneck so I upgraded the pc more, bought an nvme ssd and it didn't solve it. Then I changed to a b760m aorus elite, 1x16 ddr4 3600mhz and i5-12400f and even so the game was horrible and with shaking on the screen.

I've done everything; formatted the PC, ran antivirus, cleaned the PC, turned off and on vsync or gsync on the monitor and nothing. The PC basically only got good rarely. Out of nowhere the GPU performance was great but always with the problem. Then I saw reports that the GS600W Gamemax power supply was bad so I went there and changed it to an ASock Challenger 650W Bronze. The first 2 days with this power supply were wonderful, without any FPS drop and now the problem came back again and the last piece that really needs to be changed is the GPU.

Oh and the temperatures of the entire PC are normal, especially the CPU and GPU, I honestly don't know what to do anymore, one thing that always happens on the PC, even though I've formatted it several times is that the PC screen gets bugged when I minimize any program on the PC, as if it takes a long time to appear on the screen. I don't know how to explain it. I'll leave prints here of the quick stress test, my GPU is with power limitation, minimum clock under stress should reach around 1875+ and the GPU Voltage should reach its minimum 1,200v.

Drivers completely updated, I've even changed the power cable and monitor and nothing has solved it, when I enter games the GPU clock drops to 210MHz to 350MHz, when the FPS drops the memory clock also drops a lot, I've already changed the thermal paste and thermal pads of the GPU.

Current PC Config
RTX 3060 Eagle Gigabyte 12GB
i5-12400F
B760M Aorus Elite
1x16 DDR4 3600MHz Redragon
NVME SSD
ASRock Challenger 650W Bronze Power Supply

 

[Lutfij]

I bought a rtx 3060
The RTX 3000 series had an issue with high transient load spikes, people who got an RTX3090 were asked to overprovision on their PSU's with something like a 1.2KW unit. In your instance, you should've looked into an 850W unit. Now wattage isn't the only thing you should be looking for in a PSU. You're advised to invest in a reliably built unit.

This might be of use to you;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRyyCsuHFQ


None of those units mentioned above are reliably built, let alone with enough wattage. My guestimate is that your PSU is the primary issue.

To add,
formatted the PC
What OS are you working with and did you recreate your bootable USB installer to rule out a corruption?

Lastly,
B760M Aorus Elite
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-AORUS-ELITE-rev-1x/sp#spyou're working with one stick how are you working with DDR4 ram when the board has DDR5 slots? Or are you working with this board;
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-AORUS-ELITE-DDR4-rev-1x
? If so, you should clarify what the board's make and model is. As for the ram, you should've looked into a 2x16GB kit, to get the most out of your platform. What BIOS version are you on for your motherboard?

IMHO, you didn't perform much of an upgrade yet you seemed to have emptied out your wallet. No offence meant.

 

[gusttavin]

I bought a rtx 3060
The RTX 3000 series had an issue with high transient load spikes, people who got an RTX3090 were asked to overprovision on their PSU's with something like a 1.2KW unit. In your instance, you should've looked into an 850W unit. Now wattage isn't the only thing you should be looking for in a PSU. You're advised to invest in a reliably built unit.

This might be of use to you;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRyyCsuHFQ


None of those units mentioned above are reliably built, let alone with enough wattage. My guestimate is that your PSU is the primary issue.

To add,
formatted the PC
What OS are you working with and did you recreate your bootable USB installer to rule out a corruption?

Lastly,
B760M Aorus Elite
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-AORUS-ELITE-rev-1x/sp#spyou're working with one stick how are you working with DDR4 ram when the board has DDR5 slots? Or are you working with this board;
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760M-AORUS-ELITE-DDR4-rev-1x
? If so, you should clarify what the board's make and model is. As for the ram, you should've looked into a 2x16GB kit, to get the most out of your platform. What BIOS version are you on for your motherboard?

IMHO, you didn't perform much of an upgrade yet you seemed to have emptied out your wallet. No offence meant.

Hello, how are you? So, I don't see any point in putting an 800W+ power supply in a configuration that needs at least a 600W power supply. I tested this new power supply on another PC with a 3060 but with 8GB and it worked really well there, games ran very smoothly. I also tested it with the other 2 8GB DDR4 memory sticks each to use dual channel and I still have the same problems on my PC.

My motherboard is the B760m Aorus Elite DDR4 Rev 1x.

I don't know what happens, every now and then the computer decides to be fine, without any apparent crashes, and after 2 or 3 days it goes back to normal.

It's very strange that screen tearing happens on Windows without even playing, so I don't understand. My system is Windows 10.

 

[gusttavin]

Good afternoon everyone, I come here to this topic to see if you can help me, let's go, I realize that my PC in games is not as good as it should be, even on the desktop, I simply notice an infinite bottleneck that does not stop chasing me even changing the PC parts, I moved house and also changed some peripherals, I always see one of the cores of my CPU reach 100% in simple browser games, about 4 years ago I had an i3-10100f, 1x8 ddr4, h510m-e asus prime, ssd nvme kingston, rx 550 4gb and a generic thrones 500w source, simply in this configuration my games and the PC itself were very fast without any kind of problem or bottlenecks, it was perfect, that's when I decided to buy a Gamemax 600w source and an rtx 3060, from then on the problem arose Slowness in games, stutters, etc. I did everything to try to identify the problem. I disconnected the USB ports from the front panel of the case, formatted Windows 10, ran an antivirus, cleaned the PC, changed the thermal paste on the GPU and CPU, monitored it, and ran several stress tests, but nothing. The PC seemed normal. It only lags when playing games or even when I'm on the desktop. So I decided to change the PC's parts, thinking it could solve the problem. I bought a B760M Aorus Elite, 2x8 DDR4 3200MHz, SSD NVME M.2, i5-12400F, water cooler, Asrock Challenger 650W Bronze. I just haven't changed the case yet, and the problem still haunts me. I left my old hardware to my wife. For a while, both her PC and mine had a screen shaking. I think it's called tearing. It still happens to me and her PC. Other than that, her game's FPS is much better and much smoother. That's when I thought that It could be a USB port on my PC. I uninstalled the drivers, formatted it again, and nothing. I did all of this and more. The problem seems to only haunt me, even after replacing all the hardware. What I have from my old PC is still the Kumara K552 keyboard, and the fans from my old PC are on my current one. I replaced the old mouse with a new one, thinking it might solve the problem, and it did for a short while. I even noticed the game was a little smoother. However, because this mouse is wireless, the cursor would freeze all the time on my PC, and I don't know why. My wife uses a wireless one too, and it works fine on hers. I tested my mouse on hers, and it was fine too. I downloaded the mouse driver, set it to 1000Hz, and nothing changed. It was only after formatting the PC that it returned to normal. Anyway, there's nothing else to do. I've done three hundred different tests, and nothing. It just haunts me. I'll leave a screenshot of the Task Manager here. Obviously, I didn't just use it to check the CPU; I've done it with others too.

I will also leave the link to the topic I created on the Nvidia forum. Someone tried to help me in many ways and nothing worked. I even did the test with 3DMark and the hwinfo log and hosted it on Google Drive for anyone who wants to analyze it. It's all in this forum: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...erformance-of-gpu-flickering-stuttering-and-/


here is the picture of the task manager: cores

Current PC configuration:

Rtx 3060 12gb
b760m aorus elite
2x8 ddr4 redragon
i5-12400f
water cooler 240mm
ssd nvme m.2 wdblue
asrock challenger 650w bronze
windows 10
180Hz monitor

 

[Third-Eye]

Do the fans on the RTX 3060 get loud when playing a game or starting a game? High fan speed with "normal" temperatures, usually under 75c with gaming loads, can indicate possible overheating for various reasons. It's usually thermal paste pump out.

I swear I'm starting to look like a broken record on repeat with how many 30 series graphics cards or just old graphics cards I've seen or heard are overheating this year, and I keep asking about fan rpm and GPU temperature. I've lost count.

 

[JayGau]

Whether or not this is the cause of your problems, get rid of the Gamemax PSU ASAP. This brand is rated as one the worst on every PSU Tier list. Replace immediately.

 

[gusttavin]

As ventoinhas da RTX 3060 fazem barulho ao jogar ou iniciar um jogo? Alta velocidade da ventoinha com temperaturas "normais", geralmente abaixo de 75 °C com cargas de jogo, pode indicar possível superaquecimento por vários motivos. Geralmente é a saída de pasta térmica.

Juro que estou começando a parecer um disco riscado de tantos gráficos da série 30 ou simplesmente antigos que vi ou ouvi falar que estão superaquecendo este ano, e continuo perguntando sobre a rotação do ventilador e a temperatura da GPU. Perdi a conta.

I recently started hearing noises in it and in the fan, I think it's called coil whine, and yesterday there were worse noises in the GPU even without doing anything on the PC, just leaving it there, the entire PC temperature is normal, even doing extreme benchmarks with several types of programs, I've already changed the thermal paste on the GPU and CPU to see if it would solve the problem and nothing, the brand of thermal paste is ts-cold and I've also changed its thermal pads.

 

[gusttavin]

Seja esta ou não a causa dos seus problemas, livre-se da sua fonte Gamemax o mais rápido possível. Esta marca é classificada como uma das piores em todas as listas de fontes de alimentação. Substitua-a imediatamente.

This is my old power supply. I replaced this GameMax one, thinking it might be the problem, so I bought an ASRock Challenger 650W. For the first three days, my PC worked wonderfully, but then the problem reappeared. 🙁

This problem has literally been haunting me for years. To give you an idea, I thought it might be my mouse causing these issues due to the polling rate. So I bought a Redragon M808-KS wireless, and as soon as I plugged the mouse into my PC, the cursor started freezing. I set the Hz to 1000Hz maximum, and it improved a lot, but I still notice some stuttering. And most impressively, after putting this new mouse on my PC, my microphone started having audio stutters. Out of nowhere, the sound stops working and comes back, sometimes with a hiss, but most of the time it just stops and the sound comes back.

 

[gusttavin]

I ran several tests and posted them at this link on the Nvidia forum, but I also posted the Firestrike test here. From what I've heard, it could be an issue with the PC's sensor readings, causing the boost on both to work incorrectly.
link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mF2hWbQ_xKmNk_QURidOKvwx1U1tOKbx?usp=sharing

link 2:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17zMTlWNBkdb4MHonmLdGz9AB_Wx3JuX3?usp=sharing

link3: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/137596758

 

[Third-Eye]

I recently started hearing noises in it and in the fan, I think it's called coil whine, and yesterday there were worse noises in the GPU even without doing anything on the PC, just leaving it there, the entire PC temperature is normal, even doing extreme benchmarks with several types of programs, I've already changed the thermal paste on the GPU and CPU to see if it would solve the problem and nothing, the brand of thermal paste is ts-cold and I've also changed its thermal pads.

Coil whine happens and doesn't or shouldn't affect the GPUs performance or operation. Thermal paste alone isn't really so much the issue with overheating as is what causes it, such has incorrect heatsink pressure on the GPU.

If you're hearing noise from the graphics card, it might be the fans grinding and either need to be lubed properly or fully replaced. Both options are not very expensive, but lubing the fans is a bit harder to do than just replacing fans.

I also had another look at the nvidia forum posts, and now I think you have some other kind of hardware issue, but I'm not totally convinced it's just USB related, but it's still possible. It might be software you keep installing or maybe if you're running a stripped down version of Windows, it could have some issue. Running a single ram module might be contributing to the problem of stutter.

 

[gusttavin]

Coil whine happens and doesn't or shouldn't affect the GPUs performance or operation. Thermal paste alone isn't really so much the issue with overheating as is what causes it, such has incorrect heatsink pressure on the GPU.

If you're hearing noise from the graphics card, it might be the fans grinding and either need to be lubed properly or fully replaced. Both options are not very expensive, but lubing the fans is a bit harder to do than just replacing fans.

I also had another look at the nvidia forum posts, and now I think you have some other kind of hardware issue, but I'm not totally convinced it's just USB related, but it's still possible. It might be software you keep installing or maybe if you're running a stripped down version of Windows, it could have some issue. Running a single ram module might be contributing to the problem of stutter.

Regarding the video card, these noises that started happening are really bad.

I'm almost 100% sure the GPU isn't the real problem with my PC, as you can see on the Nvidia forum. I tested my wife's GPU on my PC and installed the RX550 drivers, and it had the same problem. I also ran several tests and sent them to the guy on the Nvidia forum, and according to his analysis, it really isn't my GPU.

Usually, when I format Windows, I let all the drivers install through Windows Update, only the GPU one, which is available through the Nvidia website.

I always immediately install Chrome, WinRAR 64-bit 713br, and Discord, and download my motherboard's app to download chipset drivers, etc., but even before downloading the motherboard app, the problem persists.

The guy said it's some kind of CPU physics issue. It seems this problem only persists on me. My old PC, which had the same problem, disappeared when I passed it on to my wife, and I downloaded the same software my PC has.

I use Windows 10 22:02 19045.6093

Regarding RAM, I have two more x8 RAMs from my wife's PC that I tested on my PC in dual channel with and without XMP enabled, and it still has the same problem. I've already reset the motherboard BIOS to the latest version and also reverted to the older version to test, but the problem hasn't gone away.

So far, my mouse pointer still freezes on the PC screen and the microphone has audio issues. I also tested both on my wife's PC, and nothing, no problem there.

And thank you very much for your time in trying to help me