[SOLVED] possible to run a 1660 super with a 450W bronze PSU?

[Dinkydink]

Looking to upgrade my graphics card, new to this stuff thankyou!

 

[Barty1884]

Going to depend on the balance of your specs & the quality of the 450W PSU... but generally, yes.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

Looking to upgrade my graphics card, new to this stuff thankyou!

What CPU and chipset are you going to use?

If its not something crazy like a Ryzen 9 or OC Ryzen 7, you should be fine. R5 3600 is 88W, 1660S is 125W, usual motherboards are at max 110-150. Add another 50 for headroom and ram and storage and stuff and you land at about 400 at 100% load (unrealistic situation) . I would recommend a 550W if possible just keeping the future in mind (like a CX550, don't get the M, it's really bad) but a 450W Bronze should work just fine

 

[Dinkydink]

What CPU and chipset are you going to use?

If its not something crazy like a Ryzen 9 or OC Ryzen 7, you should be fine. R5 3600 is 88W, 1660S is 125W, usual motherboards are at max 110-150. Add another 50 for headroom and ram and storage and stuff and you land at about 400 at 100% load (unrealistic situation) . I would recommend a 550W if possible just keeping the future in mind (like a CX550, don't get the M, it's really bad) but a 450W Bronze should work just fine

The CPU I currently have is a Intel Core i5-8400

 

[Prad_Bitt]

The CPU I currently have is a Intel Core i5-8400

You should be fine with 450 if you already have it, but if you're buying a new psu then I'd say definitely go for a 550 for future headroom. What 450w psu model is it?

 

[Dinkydink]

You should be fine with 450 if you already have it, but if you're buying a new psu then I'd say definitely go for a 550 for future headroom. What 450w psu model is it?

The PSU is an acbel 80 plus bronze 450w and the chipset is Intel Z370 (Kaby Lake), thanks for the help!

 

[King_V]

I wouldn't trust an AcBel in general.

Click on the first link in my sig. That is a MUST read with regard to good quality PSUs vs ones that are unreliable or even dangerous to use.

 

[Barty1884]

The PSU is an acbel 80 plus bronze 450w and the chipset is Intel Z370 (Kaby Lake), thanks for the help!

Some AcBel units aren't terrible - I think the ones they were putting in a lot of Dells around Skylake era were solid...... but that was ~5 years ago , so it's really going to depend on the specific model number.

It'll almost certainly 'run' a 1660 + i5-8400 combo, at least initially.... Long term/reliability/quality is uncertain at this stage.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

The PSU is an acbel 80 plus bronze 450w and the chipset is Intel Z370 (Kaby Lake), thanks for the help!

Well I agree with King _v, I wouldn't trust acbel either, it would've been fine if it was something like corsair. Definitely go for something like corsair next time, preferably 550. I would suggest not to run that gpu on that acbel psu

 

[Dinkydink]

Well I agree with King _v, I wouldn't trust acbel either, it would've been fine if it was something like corsair. Definitely go for something like corsair next time, preferably 550. I would suggest not to run that gpu on that acbel psu

So I currently have a 1050ti what would be the next best GPU to upgrade to with the current PSU

 

[Dinkydink]

Some AcBel units aren't terrible - I think the ones they were putting in a lot of Dells around Skylake era were solid...... but that was ~5 years ago , so it's really going to depend on the specific model number.

It'll almost certainly 'run' a 1660 + i5-8400 combo, at least initially.... Long term/reliability/quality is uncertain at this stage.

Should i grab the model number for you?

 

[Barty1884]

Should i grab the model number for you?

It might allow some more research, yes.

 

[Dinkydink]

It might allow some more research, yes.

I think this is the model number: PC7033, I also have a P/N which is SP50A36160

 

[Barty1884]

Looks to be out of a Lenovo Legion Desktop?
Being out of a pre-built, there's very little in terms of reviews.

Ultimately, pre-built PSUs are 'good enough' for the hardware they ship with, and for the period the system is warranted. Anything beyond that is a crapshoot. Some are decent, some are terrible, this one likely sits somewhere in between.

 

[Dinkydink]

Looks to be out of a Lenovo Legion Desktop?
Being out of a pre-built, there's very little in terms of reviews.

Ultimately, pre-built PSUs are 'good enough' for the hardware they ship with, and for the period the system is warranted. Anything beyond that is a crapshoot. Some are decent, some are terrible, this one likely sits somewhere in between.

Do you think it would have any chance with a 1660 super, or would you not chance it at all. thankyou for the help I appreciate it!

 

[Prad_Bitt]

Do you think it would have any chance with a 1660 super, or would you not chance it at all. thankyou for the help I appreciate it!

It has a "chance" but I'd be surprised if you're willing to take that chance man, it is risky

So I currently have a 1050ti what would be the next best GPU to upgrade to with the current PSU

Well with that PSU probably a 1650S/1660. I would definitely suggest getting the 1660S with a better PSU tho, more longevity in both places

 

[Turtle Rig]

It has a "chance" but I'd be surprised if you're willing to take that chance man, it is risky


Well with that PSU probably a 1650S/1660. I would definitely suggest getting the 1660S with a better PSU tho, more longevity in both places

I must agree a big risk as you will drive close to 400watts easy and I don't know about the quality of the ampage on the 12v rail and what not. It would be a shame to destroy the video card. Def just buy a EVGA 550w Bronze 80+ or a Corsair CX series and youll be fine with that card and can overclock it as well. Just depends if you plan on upgrading in the future both CPU mobo and RAM and video card the EVGA 550w wont cut it. You would need at least a 650 to 750w PSU to match say a 4060 card in the future ya know. ✝🖐🎗✌😲💯

 

[Prad_Bitt]

I must agree a big risk as you will drive close to 400watts easy and I don't know about the quality of the ampage on the 12v rail and what not. It would be a shame to destroy the video card. Def just buy a EVGA 550w Bronze 80+ or a Corsair CX series and youll be fine with that card and can overclock it as well. Just depends if you plan on upgrading in the future both CPU mobo and RAM and video card the EVGA 550w wont cut it. You would need at least a 650 to 750w PSU to match say a 4060 card in the future ya know. ✝🖐🎗✌😲💯

Actually 4060 might be fine on 550/650 because these are becoming more efficient, can't say for sure, but likely

 

[King_V]

So I currently have a 1050ti what would be the next best GPU to upgrade to with the current PSU

Well, there are two things to consider:

1 - The priority really should be reversed. If you want to get a more powerful graphics card, you should get a better PSU first. It's not that 450W isn't enough, it's that it's a low-quality 450W.

2 - I haven't seen any mention whatsoever of your monitor.

• What is your monitor's resolution?
• What is your monitor's refresh rate?
• Does your monitor have FreeSync, GSync, or neither?

 

[Barty1884]

Do you think it would have any chance with a 1660 super, or would you not chance it at all. thankyou for the help I appreciate it!

It certainly has a "chance" - you're only adding ~50W over your current system TDP (1050TI to 1660S)..... but it is risky. It might 'work', in fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't - at least initially. Quality/reliability is the concern though - If the PSU were to fail, you run the risk of damaging other components.

That PSU might 'work' and work indefinitely.... But equally, it might not.

Only you can decide if it's worth the risk to >$500 worth of for the sake of a quality <$70 PSU (typically)

as you will drive close to 400watts easy

I think that's a bit of a stretch. The config (i5-8400 + 1660S + balance of components) is unlikely to breach 300W unless you're running stress/burn-in tests on all components. Regardless, the wattage isn't the concern here, the quality is.

Def just buy a EVGA 550w Bronze 80+ or a Corsair CX series

You realize EVGA and Corsair (to a lesser extent) have some pretty junk units in their lineup too, right?

You would need at least a 650 to 750w PSU to match say a 4060 card in the future

While just like you, we'll need to wait for these cards & independent reviews at the time....
However, Nvidia have only ever have a 560TI in the x60 class cards with a TDP >200W (including first run Fermi!). With efficiency being more of a priority than ever, I highly doubt we'll see an x50 or x60 class GPU with TDP requirements >200W again.

 

[idioticfrosty]

With efficiency being more of a priority than ever, I highly doubt we'll see an x50 or x60 class GPU with TDP requirements >200W again.

looks at 3000 series line up: >200W

heck maybe if they reveal a 3060 we'll have it

 

[Barty1884]

looks at 3000 series line up: >200W

heck maybe if they reveal a 3060 we'll have it

Looks at what I said?

I highly doubt we'll see an x50 or x60 class GPU with TDP requirements >200W again.

Logically:

The 3070 is ~220W, the 2070 was ~185W and the 2070 Super ~215W
3080 is ~320W vs the 2080 Super at ~250W

Or, if you compare efficiency vs performance (allegedly), the 3070 is ~220W, the 2080TI that it supposedly matches/betters was ~250W.

So comparable performance to existing cards appears to exist at lower TDPs. And the 'new' performance level draws more.

So, with similar TDPs for 70 class cards, I just don't see a 3060 sliding in with TDPs much above maybe 160-170W.

Then, with refinements, the guesstimate of a "4060" should match or lower than TDP.

Of course, this is all speculation on my part & I could be complete wrong. I just don't see how a >200W 3060 makes any sense.

FWIW, I don't think the 3060 'exists' beyond rumours & suspected AIB leaks.

 

[Barty1884]

Exactly, the 1060 was close to 200W, the 2060 and Super were down to 175. Most likely a 3060 would be around 175

2060s were 160W I think, the Super bumped it to 175W.

It's possible it'll be increased a bit over a 2060/Super, but >200W is very unlikely in the product stack.
3090 = 350W, 3080 = 320W, 3070 = 220W..... I don't see how a 3060 'fits' without a TDP <200W.

 

[Prad_Bitt]

2060s were 160W I think, the Super bumped it to 175W.

It's possible it'll be increased a bit over a 2060/Super, but >200W is very unlikely in the product stack.
3090 = 350W, 3080 = 320W, 3070 = 220W..... I don't see how a 3060 'fits' without a TDP <200W.

Well I did get my figure for the 1060 wrong. But anyway, 2070S drew max 225 in some benches I saw. But I think 3060 would 99% be 175 or less

 

[Turtle Rig]

It certainly has a "chance" - you're only adding ~50W over your current system TDP (1050TI to 1660S)..... but it is risky. It might 'work', in fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't - at least initially. Quality/reliability is the concern though - If the PSU were to fail, you run the risk of damaging other components.

That PSU might 'work' and work indefinitely.... But equally, it might not.

Only you can decide if it's worth the risk to >$500 worth of for the sake of a quality <$70 PSU (typically)



I think that's a bit of a stretch. The config (i5-8400 + 1660S + balance of components) is unlikely to breach 300W unless you're running stress/burn-in tests on all components. Regardless, the wattage isn't the concern here, the quality is.



You realize EVGA and Corsair (to a lesser extent) have some pretty junk units in their lineup too, right?



While just like you, we'll need to wait for these cards & independent reviews at the time....
However, Nvidia have only ever have a 560TI in the x60 class cards with a TDP >200W (including first run Fermi!). With efficiency being more of a priority than ever, I highly doubt we'll see an x50 or x60 class GPU with TDP requirements >200W again.

Well on idle that thing is 130w to 150w max. On normal desktop stuff it is say 180 to 220w. However for a video card and a CPU that is going to work at least 60 percent the wattage will go above 300watts trust me. Also the lower the wattage the better the chance it is a cheap PSU with components that are not quality and alto things can work out for you in the long run you may be doing damage to your video card or other components. You will get about 350w usage at mnimum sometimes dips to 320 back up near 400w like I said but worst case scenario. But if your using 200w on the desktop doing hardcore activity then once you add the video card wattage to that then it will go beyond 300w. Always good to have a 550w quality PSU now a days. Doesn't cost much like the EVGA or Corsair CXM series with bronze 80+ rating is enough for a 9900k or 10900k OCed to 5Ghz along with a 2080Ti however I would rather go 650w actually as you always want to go more then what you need to give some leeway and breathing room to the PSU ya know. ✌😲💯🤷‍♀️👈☮