Possibly looking to upgrade my system for Premiere Pro CC 2015

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Hopefully this is a good spot to ask this. I built a system with the help of someone else that is into games and I am now not sure if I should have done it his way as I am having slow rendering/ exporting issues and its getting very frustrating and I have not even messed with 4k which I plan on in the very near future. If I was into gaming Im sure Id love this rig, but I am not and all I really do on this rig is PP CC2015, After Effects, Photoshop, LR and some internet related stuff and that is it.

My current specs are as follows:

Windows 7 64bit Professional
MOBO - Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
CPU - AMD FX 9590 8 core 4.7GHZ
GPU ( I know this is a little weak ) Sapphire Dual-X R9 280X
RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 16GB (4x4GB) 1866
Cooling Corsair H110 water cooler
PSU - EVGA Supernova 850 G2
2x Crucial MX200 256Gb SSD's
1 WD Black 1TB SATA 64Mb

Plenty of fans to keep her cool.

I am looking to switch to Intel I7 if needed, new MOBO, more RAM, and much better GPU if I have too. I have a $1500 budget to make these upgrades and can come up with more if ABSOLUTELY needed.

Seems like most use Intel I7 CPUs, I just want a system that is going to run smooth and I dont have to render every single little adjustment I make to try and see what the adjustment did to the clip.

I do Real Estate Videography / Photography, 4k Drone video etc. So waiting longer than necessary is not an option for us. I understand I have to wait for things, but after watching clips of people editing and rendering 4x the speed I am I want that.

Also, my OS is on 1 of the SSDs, programs on the other one. And I store all my video clips on the WD 1TB drive.

Hope thats all the info needed, if not ask and Ill post what I missed. Thanks so much.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

for $1500 we can create a smoking fast system:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($384.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Mushkin ECO2 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: AMD FirePro W7100 8GB Video Card ($619.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill 600W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1595.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-08 15:24 EST-0500

the Haswell-E i7 is actually cheaper than a 6700K right now, comes with 6 cores/12 threads.
the Hyper TX is basically because the I7 doesn't come with its own cooler, it can't handle more than default cooling duties, no overclocking.
32 GB of RAM
a large, 512 MB SSD and a 2 TB HDD handles storage duty. you can reuse your existing ssd/hdds as well.
a massive 8 GB Workstation GPU handles any graphics rendering better than a gaming card

a simple case and adequate power supply round out the build

 

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Hello ScrewySqrl and thanks!

I have a case already, I have a water cooler already that will work with the 2011v3 socket, might upgrade SSD or just use what I already have unless they are an issue, and already have a very good PSU.

Im thinking the next step up from the CPU to the 5930 3.5
64Gbs RAM 2800
And still I am in limbo on MOBO and card. I thought NVidia would be better and from my research seems like the CUDA cores are whats important for the rendering. Hopefully what I read and watched is correct. Hard sometime to know who to believe on the net ya know! But, what your saying is the workstation card will outperform a card with higher CUDA levels? Im still trying to understand that so pardon my possible stupid question!

May I also ask, do you do video editing with PP CC 2015? Just trying to see what your experience is 1st hand. No offence of course, as I mentioned in the 1st post, I took the advice from a gamer not someone who did video editing, that was my mistake, he was very nice enough to help me a lot but he lacked the knowledge in what is truly needed for video editing with PP CC 2015. Again, I mean to not offend you, Im just wanting to make sure the advice I am getting is from someone who knows the needs of the equipment for editing, cause I sure as heck dont know exactly, but know a little to possibly make a decision! lol

 

[ScrewySqrl]

I don't know if the AMD FIrepro W7100 will out perform a similar Quattro M-series, but its $200 less expensive ($619 for W7100 8GB vs over $800 for the Quattro M4000 4 GB). I know it will out perform a *gaming* oriented card (like a GTX 980 or R9 390) at rendering. the 8GB of RAM will help a lot with 4K editing

I don't have direct experience with PP CC 2015, but I used to be a computer animator doing a lot of Autocad, 3D Studio Max, and Photoshop, so I know the importance of a genuine rendering card.

by dropping the cooler, case, 2 TB Drive and PSU, you could swap from the 512 GB SATA III SSD to a Samsung 512 GB M2 SSD, with 32 GB/s potential throughput (compared to 6 gb on SATA III) (An Extra $40 over the cost of th mushkin), and possibly a 1 TB SATA III SSD ($250), then use your existing drives with those.

 

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Thank you once again sir! Appreciate it very much. Here's what I am thinking with the GPU you suggested. Curious to see what you think. Im just not sure about the MOBO since it is not a "workstation" MOBO.

Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
ASUS ROG RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Gaming Motherboard
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (8 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2800 (PC4 22400) Desktop Memory Model CMK64GX4M8B2800C14
AMD FirePro W7100 100-505724 8GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Full height/full length single-slot Workstation Video ...

 

[ScrewySqrl]

yep, should work fine. the Asus has more bells & whistles than the ASRock one i suggested, but should work fine

 

[bambiboom]

1moreminute,

As Premiere ihas been multi-threaded since 2012 and can benefit from multiple cores, it makes sense to benefit from more cores at a reasonable speed than fewer cores at high speed. Here is an idea based on an 8-core Xeon CPU a fast X99 motherboard, 32GB DDR4 RAM, and a GTX that will boost rendering speed by the application of CUDA cores as co-processors.

Motherboard: SUPERMICRO C7X99-OCE-F ATX Server Motherboard LGA 2011 Intel X99 > $324

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182962

RAM: 32GB SAMSUNG 4X 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Server Memory Model M393A1G40DB0-CPB > $240 ($60 each)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=SAMSUNG++8GB+288-Pin+DDR4+SDRAM+ECC+Registered+DDR4+2133+%28PC4+17000%29+Server+Memory+Model+M393A1G40DB0-CPB+&N=-1&isNodeId=1

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 Haswell-EP 2.4 GHz 8 x 256KB L2 Cache 20MB L3 Cache LGA 2011-3 85W BX80644E52630V3 Server Processor > $629

http://ark.intel.com/products/83356

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=E52630V3BX

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 04G-P4-3975-KR 4GB SSC GAMING w/ACX 2.0+, Whisper Silent Cooling Graphics Card> $310

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487088&cm_re=gtx_870-_-14-487-088-_-Product

GPU ALT: GIGABYTE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB GDDR5 2DVI/HDMI/3DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card > $470
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Motherboard:__ $324
CPU:_________$629
RAM:_________$240
GPU:_________$310 or $470

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TOTAL ______$1503 or $1663 with GTX 980

If you are open to using a used CPU - this would be a 10- core E5-2600 series v2, this specification can be improved at the same cost.

If you are adventurous, you can buy and upgrade a system like the rendering system listed below for the $1500 total. This would allow you to continue work without interruption with the current system until the revised system was available and possibly a significant proportion of the cost of the new system can be recovered by the sale of the intact current system. The upgrade would prove 12 cores / 24 threads at up to 3.47 /3.73 GHz, 48GB of RAM, a fast RAID, and up to two 150W GPU's and the net cost might be $400-$500 while never being out of use. I've had 5 used Dell Precision over the last 6 years with 100% reliability.

This system was purchased for $190 including shipping:

Dell Precision T5500 (2011) (Original): Xeon E5620 quad core @ 2.4 / 2.6 GHz > 6GB DDR3 ECC Reg 1333 > Quadro FX 580 (512MB) > Dell PERC 6/i SAS /SATA controller > Seagate Cheetah 15K 146GB > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
[ Passmark system rating = Original / CPU = 4067 / 2D= 520 / 3D= 311 / Mem= 1473 / Disk= 1208]

Purchased:

2X Xeon X5680 : $230 and $170
RAM: 48GB DDR3- 1333 ECC Registered- $120
PERC H310 RAID controller $60
The Quadro K2200, Samsung 840, and WD RE4 were on the shelf after another upgrade- value about $450

Total = about $1,250.

Results were very good:

Dell Precision T5500 (2011)(Revised) > 2X Xeon X5680 (12-cores / 24 Threads @ 3.33 / 3.6GHz), 48GB DDR3 1333 ECC Reg. > Quadro K2200 (4GB ) > PERC H310 / Samsung 840 250GB / WD RE4 Enterprise 1TB > M-Audio 192 sound card > 875W PSU > Windows 7 Professional 64> HP 2711x (27", 1920 X 1080)
[ Passmark system rating = 3844 / CPU = 15047 / 2D= 662 / 3D= 3500 / Mem= 1785 / Disk= 2649] (12.30.15)


Cheers,

BambiBoom

3D Modeling:

1. HP z420 (2015) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) > 32GB DDR3 1866 ECC RAM > Quadro K4200 (4GB) > Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) > Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)>
[ Passmark Rating = 5064 > CPU= 13989 / 2D= 819 / 3D= 4596 / Mem= 2772 / Disk= 4555] [Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1014 OpenGL= 126.59 FPS] 7.8.15