Question Possibly power related gpu issue/ or to old of system for support?

[white.a.drew]

Hi all, I have a really interesting predicament.... I have honestly never seen a issue like this before in my life time, so some explanation would be appreciated.

Recently looking at psu requirements was looking for a new gpu to replace an accent 770ti. The 770ti looking around and gathering info is recommended at 600w min psu, where as a 1660s comes in at a 450w recommended, okay no problem the psu in the system is 750w.

With the 770ti in the system it was running just fine never had a problem. However when I went to install the 1660s I also fully reset the pc. There was a fresh formated hdd known working put into the system.

After the hdd was put in no info on it I removed the old 770ti before powering on the system and put the new 1660s in. After installing windows 10 no problems happen I connected to the wifi and immediately was hit with your PC encountered a problem and will restart in one minute. And was a constant everything the pc would restart that message would reappear thinking ok the usb installer I have finally crashed

I made a new usb installer reinstalled windows 10 in offline mode. With the GeForce drivers pre downloaded... went through full setup no problem... again offline the moment the pc connects to wifi however again starts the restart cycle saying windows has encounter a drastic problem will restart in one minute.... what in the world is happening anyone have any clues?

Ps side note right now not a 100% on system specs right now.... all I know is this is an asus mobo thermaltake psu and intel cpu but no clue their models right now I do know the mobo iss ddr3 not 4

 

[piechockidocent9]

When does the crash occur, when you connect to wi-fi during the windows installation or afterwards?

 

[white.a.drew]

When does the crash occur, when you connect to wi-fi during the windows installation or afterwards?

It happens after windows setup like I said I can get all the way through installing GeForce drivers offline no problem. Use the pc for hours no wifi but I connect to wifi and bam instant basically windows has encountered a problem will restart in one minute

 

[white.a.drew]

When does the crash occur, when you connect to wi-fi during the windows installation or afterwards?

windows 10 has encountered a drastic problem will restart in 1 minute - Google Suche

I basically get greated with thus message the moment the pc connects to wifi, I never set up windows using internet because it forces you to use emails and xxxx I don't want to set up.... so set it up offline.... connected it to wifi after walking away for awhile and got that so figuring the usb installer crashed made a new one this time also having the GeForce drivers pre loaded incase that was the issue since upgrading gpus... installed windows made account no problems installed GeForce driver no problem computer restarted after words booted sat there for a hr no problem connected to wifi again and bam same message and the PC just constantly restarts.... same message the moment it boots....

Side note the pc worked fine for years no problems ever...... decided it was time for the new gpu, got from a buddy know working he literally pulled it from his pc same day I got it from him he put his 4090 in tested worked great and I walked out with the 1660s in a static bag and box. No damage ever came to it.... I like I said pulled my 770ti and old hdd put in a completly fresh formatted known good hdd and now this problem has shown up...
Also to not my cmos battery from this system has been dead for years never cared to replace is the system has always ran at stalk setting now base adjustments minus xmp which in don't mind reinstating the very few times this server ever gets unplugged.

 

[piechockidocent9]

Quite a pickle indeed. I'd scratch the psu or the new gpu fault, doesn't rly look like it. Also doubt it's the usb windows installer as you mentioned trying multiple times and created new installer too.

Looks like a old component driver issue, judging by the 770ti you mentioned the config is probably 10 years or older. New build of windows you are installing probably has something built in now that heavily clashes with the old wi-fi adapter drivers.

I had 2 similar cases though not so extreme to cause crashes. Speakers in an old laptop and motherboard built in wi-fi in old pc just wouldn't work if I tried installing windows newer than 7 on them.

I can think of couple of things you could try but probably fastest, easiest way would be to buy pci wifi card or a usb dongle card and use it as a wifi device while disabling the old, built in wifi adapter in device manager. Their not that expensive and most likely would perform better then the grandpa.

If you insist on getting the built in one working you could try either suffering through connecting to wifi during the windows installation allowing it to download possibly some windows chosen, different drivers or patches that could possibly fix it.

Other option I'd try is getting wifi driver from the motherboard manufacturer site (try getting all version available even older ones) copy them to the pc in question and see if installing any would help. If pc enters crash loop after the first one you'd have to probably perform another windows installation each time. Bothersome I know but that's the final possible solution i can think of if you do insist on trying to get the built in wifi working.

 

[white.a.drew]

Quite a pickle indeed. I'd scratch the psu or the new gpu fault, doesn't rly look like it. Also doubt it's the usb windows installer as you mentioned trying multiple times and created new installer too.

Looks like a old component driver issue, judging by the 770ti you mentioned the config is probably 10 years or older. New build of windows you are installing probably has something built in now that heavily clashes with the old wi-fi adapter drivers.

I had 2 similar cases though not so extreme to cause crashes. Speakers in an old laptop and motherboard built in wi-fi in old pc just wouldn't work if I tried installing windows newer than 7 on them.

I can think of couple of things you could try but probably fastest, easiest way would be to buy pci wifi card or a usb dongle card and use it as a wifi device while disabling the old, built in wifi adapter in device manager. Their not that expensive and most likely would perform better then the grandpa.

If you insist on getting the built in one working you could try either suffering through connecting to wifi during the windows installation allowing it to download possibly some windows chosen, different drivers or patches that could possibly fix it.

Other option I'd try is getting wifi driver from the motherboard manufacturer site (try getting all version available even older ones) copy them to the pc in question and see if installing any would help. If pc enters crash loop after the first one you'd have to probably perform another windows installation each time. Bothersome I know but that's the final possible solution i can think of if you do insist on trying to get the built in wifi working.

The system is older then 10 yrs tye newest part being the gpu everything else was bought at the same time the psu is what I would suspect at this point being as the pc never shutdown unless I'm on vacation for more then a week or I'm doing updates, other then this the pc is on 24/7 and with the psu being as old as it is thats where I'm leaning as well. However my confusion lays in the factor of the 770ti says it requires more power and works no problem it's only the 1660s that has the restart issue this morning my buddy and I tested it on his old system about the same age however the psu is a lot newer and the system works no problem.... however why is it the the higher power hungery card works in the system vs the lower powered card as for it being the wifi. I don't think this to be the case as the tp link t6e archer wifi card also worked in his older system with no problems

 

[thestryker]

It's not clear if you put the 770 Ti back in to see if it works or if it has the same crashes.

The below is assuming you haven't:

Okay given that you're only seeing the crash when connecting to wifi and you've said your CMOS battery is dead maybe start there. Make sure your BIOS is set to the correct date and time for your region or at least correct date with UTC/GMT. I'd suggest just replacing the CMOS battery period, but this is a place to start.

You may also want to uninstall any wifi drivers and use whatever the manufacturer provides though I doubt this is the issue.

 

[white.a.drew]

It's not clear if you put the 770 Ti back in to see if it works or if it has the same crashes.

The below is assuming you haven't:

Okay given that you're only seeing the crash when connecting to wifi and you've said your CMOS battery is dead maybe start there. Make sure your BIOS is set to the correct date and time for your region or at least correct date with UTC/GMT. I'd suggest just replacing the CMOS battery period, but this is a place to start.

You may also want to uninstall any wifi drivers and use whatever the manufacturer provides though I doubt this is the issue.

I have tried the 770ti back in the system, setup the whole system in offline and waited about 30mins and nothing, connected to wifi and no issues. However like I said the 1660s worked no problem in a similar old ddr3 system my buddy had who I got the card from.... my question now that it pops into mind due 1660s require uefi boot like a lot of the newer cards or can they use legacy boot aswell... I'll have to research that.

 

[white.a.drew]

I have tried the 770ti back in the system, setup the whole system in offline and waited about 30mins and nothing, connected to wifi and no issues. However like I said the 1660s worked no problem in a similar old ddr3 system my buddy had who I got the card from.... my question now that it pops into mind due 1660s require uefi boot like a lot of the newer cards or can they use legacy boot aswell... I'll have to research that.

It's not clear if you put the 770 Ti back in to see if it works or if it has the same crashes.

The below is assuming you haven't:

Okay given that you're only seeing the crash when connecting to wifi and you've said your CMOS battery is dead maybe start there. Make sure your BIOS is set to the correct date and time for your region or at least correct date with UTC/GMT. I'd suggest just replacing the CMOS battery period, but this is a place to start.

You may also want to uninstall any wifi drivers and use whatever the manufacturer provides though I doubt this is the issue.

Quite a pickle indeed. I'd scratch the psu or the new gpu fault, doesn't rly look like it. Also doubt it's the usb windows installer as you mentioned trying multiple times and created new installer too.

Looks like a old component driver issue, judging by the 770ti you mentioned the config is probably 10 years or older. New build of windows you are installing probably has something built in now that heavily clashes with the old wi-fi adapter drivers.

I had 2 similar cases though not so extreme to cause crashes. Speakers in an old laptop and motherboard built in wi-fi in old pc just wouldn't work if I tried installing windows newer than 7 on them.

I can think of couple of things you could try but probably fastest, easiest way would be to buy pci wifi card or a usb dongle card and use it as a wifi device while disabling the old, built in wifi adapter in device manager. Their not that expensive and most likely would perform better then the grandpa.

If you insist on getting the built in one working you could try either suffering through connecting to wifi during the windows installation allowing it to download possibly some windows chosen, different drivers or patches that could possibly fix it.

Other option I'd try is getting wifi driver from the motherboard manufacturer site (try getting all version available even older ones) copy them to the pc in question and see if installing any would help. If pc enters crash loop after the first one you'd have to probably perform another windows installation each time. Bothersome I know but that's the final possible solution i can think of if you do insist on trying to get the built in wifi working.

I'm starting to think it may the bios for the mobo doesn't support uefi boot I'll have to look around the bios and see if it has legacy and uefi or just legacy. The 1660s is another card that won't support legacy boot

 

[thestryker]

I have tried the 770ti back in the system, setup the whole system in offline and waited about 30mins and nothing, connected to wifi and no issues. However like I said the 1660s worked no problem in a similar old ddr3 system my buddy had who I got the card from.... my question now that it pops into mind due 1660s require uefi boot like a lot of the newer cards or can they use legacy boot aswell... I'll have to research that.

I meant just swapping it in after having set it up with the 1660S. Maybe try just plugging in the 1660S after setting things up with the 770 Ti and see what happens?

I'm starting to think it may the bios for the mobo doesn't support uefi boot I'll have to look around the bios and see if it has legacy and uefi or just legacy. The 1660s is another card that won't support legacy boot

1660S shouldn't care about boot choices. I gave a friend my 1660 Ti and he's using it in a Sandy Bridge box just fine having changed nothing with the card it replaced being a 660 Ti.

 

[white.a.drew]

I meant just swapping it in after having set it up with the 1660S. Maybe try just plugging in the 1660S after setting things up with the 770 Ti and see what happens?

1660S shouldn't care about boot choices. I gave a friend my 1660 Ti and he's using it in a Sandy Bridge box just fine having changed nothing with the card it replaced being a 660 Ti.

I don't know according to nvidia's website the model I have requires uefi boot I'm not sure if there's different versions with different compatibility options or if certain mobos are able to produce a mocked uefi system or if certain components will allow different from everything I'm gathering though it's just about time to fully retire this old server and possibly upgrade to a ddr4 system for streaming movies

 

[white.a.drew]

For anyone having a similar issue in the future, the issue has been found and is indeed uefi support. I can find a couple mobos that support ddr3 and uefi but not much the ones that due are basically the price of getting a start and a new system saddly the cpu I have is locked to ddr3....