Question Power supply sucks, need advice on getting a new one ?

[Mihari]

this is my prev post about stuff happening with my pc

Question - PC Functions Abnormal

First and foremost I'd like to tell you that i have no clue which category should this go to cuz it's my first time posting here lol, so admin please move this to appropriate category of possible lol. So my pc is acting funny, so here's the story, i was playing a AAA game one day and my pc just...

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My specs(same one as the above link)
- mobo: Asrock B550M pro4
- cpu: Ryzen 5 3600
- cpu cooler: deepcool gammaxx something
- ram: 16GB(2x8GB T-force delta) DDR4 3600
- GPU: MSI RTX 3060TI Gaming X(The dual fan one)
- PSU: DK 1stplayer 600W bronze 80+
-Case: Cube gaming Friel(3 prebuilt front fans)
-5 extra case fans
- Monitor: AOC 24G2E(the 24inch 144hz one)

okay so what I want is to future-proof the PSU for 2028-2030(maybe)
my plans are:
- when RTX 60 series i would grab the 50 series
- upgrade my CPU to match my GPU when I would upgrade to 50 series
- get 4x 8GB or 4x 16GB RAM for my work
- change to a new motherboard in case the CPU i would need in the future is something with AM5 pins(maybe not sure)
- i guess this upgrade will happen on 2026-2027 since 50 series r said to be launched on late 2024 or early 2025 which means 60 series would be launched on late 2026 or early 2027, which by then i would be grabbing a 50 series

QUESTION: is a 850W gold 80+ PSU too overkill for my plans?
I'm trying to follow this PSU guide (kudos to DSzymborski for giving me this list), I'll be editing the post with the PSUs that caught my interest as time goes on.


THE PSUs THAT CAUGHT MY INTEREST

 

[35below0]

- get 4x 8GB or 4x 16GB RAM for my work

I suggest a 2x16 or 2x32. With four sticks, the memory controller will reduce the RAM speed.
On the other hand, this is not a huge deal. A 4x kit may be easier to find or cheaper so feel free to buy it. Just letting you know 2x is optimal.


You say 50XX or 60XX series but you don't say which GPU you're targeting?

A 850w PSU is maybe a little bit overkill. We have no idea how much power the new GPUs will require. It may be less than today, or it may be more.
With an efficient PSU, you will not waste power, so an 850w is good.
If you were to buy a 4060 today, a 750w or even a 650w PSU would be enough. 750w would give you more room for a future GPU that is more demanding.

Overall, 850w is a sensible idea. Buy a PSU that comes with 10 years warranty. Read reviews, esp. on hwbusters.com if one is available. It may alert you to a reliable but noisy PSU. Little details like that.


What country are you buying in? It affects prices and availability, so it helps to know what to recommend or not recommend.

 

[Mihari]

- DeepCool 850W - PN850M 80+ Gold PCIe 5.1 - Full Modular ($105)​

- Super Flower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W - SF-850F14TG V2.0 Full Modular ($130)​

- Corsair RM850e ATX 3.0 (PCIe 5.0) Full Modular - Gold / PSU 850W ( $133)​

- MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular / PSU 850W ($112.5)​

- be quiet! PURE POWER 12 M 850W - Fully Modular - PCIe 5.0 - 80+ Gold ($140)​

- PSU Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850W - SF-850F14HG ($105.5)


Note: Each one of these are in stock and bracketed price are in $USD converted from IDRupiah​

 

[Mihari]

I suggest a 2x16 or 2x32. With four sticks, the memory controller will reduce the RAM speed.
On the other hand, this is not a huge deal. A 4x kit may be easier to find or cheaper so feel free to buy it. Just letting you know 2x is optimal.


You say 50XX or 60XX series but you don't say which GPU you're targeting?

A 850w PSU is maybe a little bit overkill. We have no idea how much power the new GPUs will require. It may be less than today, or it may be more.
With an efficient PSU, you will not waste power, so an 850w is good.
If you were to buy a 4060 today, a 750w or even a 650w PSU would be enough. 750w would give you more room for a future GPU that is more demanding.

Overall, 850w is a sensible idea. Buy a PSU that comes with 10 years warranty. Read reviews, esp. on hwbusters.com if one is available. It may alert you to a reliable but noisy PSU. Little details like that.


What country are you buying in? It affects prices and availability, so it helps to know what to recommend or not recommend.

Hi thanks for replying, okay if 2 sticks is more optimal ill be getting either 2x16 or 2x32, it shouldn't be hard to find cuz my current ram is 2x8,

about the GPU, i most likely will be going for the mid range of 50 series, like 5060 or 5070(this is if 50 series 60 is not like the 60 of 40 series lol, so in case that happens, then maybe 5070 or 5080)

I don't really mind the PSU being a "bit" noisy, I'm very sure my bike on normal throtle is still way more annoying LMAO,

As for Country, it's Indonesia, so price may be marked up from their MSRP, hence I tried my best to use the PSU guide as reference, and I will be editing my post above with the PSU that caught my interest.

 

[35below0]

ill be getting either 2x16 or 2x32

If you never use more than ~20Gb of RAM, but you buy 64Gb you will waste your money. I don't think you need 64Gb. I don't mean to be arrogant, just suggesting you take 32Gb instead. 32Gb will not only be cheaper it will be faster.


Look at this list for PSUs: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#J=1,3&A=800000000000,2050000000000&sort=price&page=1

This is for the US market, so they may not be available. These are all ATX v3.0 PSUs. You want ATX 3.0 for future GPUs.
For example, the Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850W is not a 3.0 PSU. It's nice and high quality, but doesn't support ATX 3.0

 

[Mihari]

If you never use more than ~20Gb of RAM, but you buy 64Gb you will waste your money. I don't think you need 64Gb. I don't mean to be arrogant, just suggesting you take 32Gb instead. 32Gb will not only be cheaper it will be faster.


Look at this list for PSUs: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#J=1,3&A=800000000000,2050000000000&sort=price&page=1

This is for the US market, so they may not be available. These are all ATX v3.0 PSUs. You want ATX 3.0 for future GPUs.
For example, the Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850W is not a 3.0 PSU. It's nice and high quality, but doesn't support ATX 3.0

im not sure about the ram actually lol, but i think i heard premiere pro n after effect taking up 80gigs and man thats kinda scary,

 

[Mihari]

okay so if i need to choose, which one should i go for? be quiet is also ATX3.0:

- Corsair RM850e ATX 3.0 (PCIe 5.0) Full Modular - Gold / PSU 850W ( $133)​

- be quiet! PURE POWER 12 M 850W - Fully Modular - PCIe 5.0 - 80+ Gold ($140)​

 

[dark_globe]

- DeepCool 850W - PN850M 80+ Gold PCIe 5.1 - Full Modular ($105)​

- Super Flower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W - SF-850F14TG V2.0 Full Modular ($130)​

- Corsair RM850e ATX 3.0 (PCIe 5.0) Full Modular - Gold / PSU 850W ( $133)​

- MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular / PSU 850W ($112.5)​

- be quiet! PURE POWER 12 M 850W - Fully Modular - PCIe 5.0 - 80+ Gold ($140)​

- PSU Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850W - SF-850F14HG ($105.5)​

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Note: Each one of these are in stock and bracketed price are in $USD converted from IDRupiah​

super flower leadex V is the best power supply out of this bunch but it is a bit outdated at this point .
can you get your hands on super flower leadex VII , or adata core reactor II (non VE version) ?

 

[Mihari]

super flower leadex V is the best power supply out of this bunch but it is a bit outdated at this point .
can you get your hands on super flower leadex VII , or adata core reactor II (non VE version) ?

Could THIS be the one you meant? pretty sure you can access the page, but if the page ask you to login, just do a inspect element

 

[35below0]

be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W PSU Review - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W PSU Review -

hwbusters.com

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000e-gen5-psu-review/ (this is the 1000w review, so it's similar but not exactly the same)

okay so if i need to choose, which one should i go for? be quiet is also ATX3.0:

- Corsair RM850e ATX 3.0 (PCIe 5.0) Full Modular - Gold / PSU 850W ( $133)​

- be quiet! PURE POWER 12 M 850W - Fully Modular - PCIe 5.0 - 80+ Gold ($140)​

 

[Mihari]

be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W PSU Review - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W PSU Review -

hwbusters.com

https://hwbusters.com/psus/corsair-rm1000e-gen5-psu-review/ (this is the 1000w review, so it's similar but not exactly the same)

im kinda leaning more to corsair / adata > be quiet right now, just because the Be quiet 12M is in "sp in the tier list", actually can u do a quick check on the link i sent above?
is it the same thing as user dark_globe mentioned above?
also what does"non VE version" means? after googling all I could find is vegetarian related stuff, is it a typo?

 

[35below0]

Only @dark_globe can anwser that.

The beQuiet is speculative because
- Be aware that strictly multi-rail units (without a possibility to switch to single-rail mode) can trip with very high power draw GPUs (>400W) and/or CPUs (unlocked Intel i7/i9) due to lower OCP tripping point. Read the manual and balance out the load if that happens.
- Potential ATX 3.0 units either not tested for compatibility (no Aris review), not received the certification (no entry in Intel’s DB), having problems with passing ATX 3.0 tests (failed Aris review), or without proper reviews in the first place to put them in the normal priority subtier.

 

[Mihari]

Only @dark_globe can anwser that.

The beQuiet is speculative because
- Be aware that strictly multi-rail units (without a possibility to switch to single-rail mode) can trip with very high power draw GPUs (>400W) and/or CPUs (unlocked Intel i7/i9) due to lower OCP tripping point. Read the manual and balance out the load if that happens.
- Potential ATX 3.0 units either not tested for compatibility (no Aris review), not received the certification (no entry in Intel’s DB), having problems with passing ATX 3.0 tests (failed Aris review), or without proper reviews in the first place to put them in the normal priority subtier.

hmmmm multi rails does sound really complex, but if i were to choose between adata and corsairs ones which one would you suggest?
I kinda don't wanna to take some chance with anything speculative ngl

 

[35below0]

Your PC will run it, so you should decide. Read reviews, that's what i recommend.

An ATX 3.0 Super Flower is probably the best you can buy, if you can find one.

 

[Mihari]

Your PC will run it, so you should decide. Read reviews, that's what i recommend.

An ATX 3.0 Super Flower is probably the best you can buy, if you can find one.

like the Superflower leadex VII?

 

[dark_globe]

Could THIS be the one you meant? pretty sure you can access the page, but if the page ask you to login, just do a inspect element

also what does"non VE version" means? after googling all I could find is vegetarian related stuff, is it a typo?

yes it is .
and no , it is not a typo ,
VE is an inferior budget version with lower tier parts and also inferior overall performance .
in my country the core reactor II is even cheaper at the moment compared to the VE version
which makes no sense but go figure .

part of the review:
"The XPG Core Reactor II VE 750W is the affordable version of the Core Reactor II. It has fewer cables, It also has less expensive capacitors and some other minor part changes. The change of caps on the secondary side greatly affected the unit’s transient response performance, and this is something you should consider since the transient response is among the most important performance factors."

 

[Mihari]

yes it is .
and no , it is not a typo ,
VE is an inferior budget version with lower tier parts and also inferior overall performance .
in my country the core reactor II is even cheaper at the moment compared to the VE version
which makes no sense but go figure .

part of the review:
"The XPG Core Reactor II VE 750W is the affordable version of the Core Reactor II. It has fewer cables, It also has less expensive capacitors and some other minor part changes. The change of caps on the secondary side greatly affected the unit’s transient response performance, and this is something you should consider since the transient response is among the most important performance factors."

oh so its like that corsair RMX and RME(the one that i originally planned to buy), with RME being the inferior counterpart of the RMX?

 

[dark_globe]

oh so its like that corsair RMX and RME(the one that i originally planned to buy), with RME being the inferior counterpart of the RMX?

yes RMe is not as good as RMx or RMi .

 

[Mihari]

yes RMe is not as good as RMx or RMi .

I see thanks for confirming! I ended up with a 1000W sunflower leadex 7