Powerful rig(?) performing like it's not.

[gamer.ceej]

Hello everyone,

First time posting here and I am literally not a very pc/tech guy. I don't know what's good and what's awesome when it comes to PC parts. I also don't play with my settings because I'm pretty sure I don't know how to fix it.

So here's my my laptop details
Model: ASUS GL502VM
Processor: i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80Ghz
Ram: 8192 MB or 8GB
GPU: Geforce GTX1060
OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

I bought this laptop October last year. As you can tell, I bought it specifically for gaming. And please correct me if I'm wrong. This is mid-high range rig, isn't it? I'm supposed to be able to play games at high settings.

Now, I have the following issues. It's not performing well lately.
1.) My start up from a coldboot takes 5-10mins which it didn't do before (which only takes a few minutes). Bios booting takes just a few seconds but start up takes a while. Please do take note that I have disable all programs that has the "Run on Start up" option.

2.) My temps go high as 90 degrees celsius. I mean even just for Dota2 with high settings. So now, I only put my settings to mid-low. I mean how could this be when I have a freaking GTX1060 for just Dota2. I'm using Dota2 as reference since it's one of the old games that I'm sure that this kind of rig can easily play in high settings. That being said, my temps for other games is also as high. Please take note that I usually don't play with Vsync and anti-aliasing for almost all games.

Even playing Darksiders Warmastered would give me 70 degrees celsius.

3.) I don't understand why my memory would go so high on simple games. I mean 8gb RAM is decent for games that don't run on high settings. Please do take note that I said this because I can't play on high settings because of my temps. AND THAT BEING SAID, why the hell is it using 61% or above memory usage???

Recently, I tried playing Dauntless and the minimum requirements for the game is:
CPU: i5 SandyBridge
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 4 GB
OS: Windows 7 DX11 Support
VIDEO CARD: 660Ti (DX11)

I can't play this game because it's crashing with a message saying that I don't have enough memory.

4.) Would you recommend for me to reformat my laptop and get windows7 if the OS is the issue?

Please let me know if you need any more information (also please let me know how to get the information you need from me).

 

[jacobweaver800]

Hello everyone,

First time posting here and I am literally not a very pc/tech guy. I don't know what's good and what's awesome when it comes to PC parts. I also don't play with my settings because I'm pretty sure I don't know how to fix it.

So here's my my laptop details
Model: ASUS GL502VM
Processor: i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80Ghz
Ram: 8192 MB or 8GB
GPU: Geforce GTX1060
OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

I bought this laptop October last year. As you can tell, I bought it specifically for gaming. And please correct me if I'm wrong. This is mid-high range rig, isn't it? I'm supposed to be able to play games at high settings.

Now, I have the following issues. It's not performing well lately.
1.) My start up from a coldboot takes 5-10mins which it didn't do before (which only takes a few minutes). Bios booting takes just a few seconds but start up takes a while. Please do take note that I have disable all programs that has the "Run on Start up" option.

2.) My temps go high as 90 degrees celsius. I mean even just for Dota2 with high settings. So now, I only put my settings to mid-low. I mean how could this be when I have a freaking GTX1060 for just Dota2. I'm using Dota2 as reference since it's one of the old games that I'm sure that this kind of rig can easily play in high settings. That being said, my temps for other games is also as high. Please take note that I usually don't play with Vsync and anti-aliasing for almost all games.

Even playing Darksiders Warmastered would give me 70 degrees celsius.

3.) I don't understand why my memory would go so high on simple games. I mean 8gb RAM is decent for games that don't run on high settings. Please do take note that I said this because I can't play on high settings because of my temps. AND THAT BEING SAID, why the hell is it using 61% or above memory usage???

Recently, I tried playing Dauntless and the minimum requirements for the game is:
CPU: i5 SandyBridge
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 4 GB
OS: Windows 7 DX11 Support
VIDEO CARD: 660Ti (DX11)

I can't play this game because it's crashing with a message saying that I don't have enough memory.

4.) Would you recommend for me to reformat my laptop and get windows7 if the OS is the issue?

Please let me know if you need any more information (also please let me know how to get the information you need from me).

Well, as for temps, its a laptop, it will hit what ever temp limit you set, they just run hot because you can't fit as much cooling in a laptop without making it super thick and heavy.

As for low FPS, what FPS are you getting? If you said it I didn't see it. You have to remember it is still a 1060, and probably a 3gb not a 6gb, not too sure Asus's website is hard to navigate for me. The 1060, while a 10 series GPU, is still not as fast as I think your hoping it would be, it may be thermal limited as well, it is in a laptop and I bet your GPU is thermal limiting itself because it's getting too hot, you can try taking it apart and cleaning the cooling fans and fins.

As for memory, you may have been out of the loop for too long, 8gb's is pretty much the least you want to go for any gaming PC, 16gb's is the sweet spot for gaming PC's, you may not have enough spare memory for the game to run, most games will use 6+gb's for breakfast. Heck my modded Minecraft will use all 8 gig's of my memory easily.

 

[gamer.ceej]

Well, as for temps, its a laptop, it will hit what ever temp limit you set, they just run hot because you can't fit as much cooling in a laptop without making it super thick and heavy.

As for low FPS, what FPS are you getting? If you said it I didn't see it. You have to remember it is still a 1060, and probably a 3gb not a 6gb, not too sure Asus's website is hard to navigate for me. The 1060, while a 10 series GPU, is still not as fast as I think your hoping it would be, it may be thermal limited as well, it is in a laptop and I bet your GPU is thermal limiting itself because it's getting too hot, you can try taking it apart and cleaning the cooling fans and fins.

As for memory, you may have been out of the loop for too long, 8gb's is pretty much the least you want to go for any gaming PC, 16gb's is the sweet spot for gaming PC's, you may not have enough spare memory for the game to run, most games will use 6+gb's for breakfast. Heck my modded Minecraft will use all 8 gig's of my memory easily.

Thank you for the input, with my FPS i can easily get 90-120 without any problems. I'm just really bothered with my temps.

So I guess, upgrading my ram is the solution for question 3?

 

[Eximo]

For temps you can try re-applying thermal paste and replacing any pads with high end ones.

Seeking high refresh rate on a laptop is guaranteed to heat things up. If you want it to run cooler, run V-sync at 60hz. You won't get the high frame rates, but the CPU and GPU will run cooler if they don't have to work too hard.

Always a compromise, my computer is quite the space heater when I shoot for high refresh rates, and in the summer months that can get quite sweaty even with the A/C on.

 

[cryoburner]

If you get 90-120fps, I don't see what the problem is. Laptops will naturally run relatively hot compared to desktops, since as was previously pointed out, the available room to dedicate to cooling is limited. Is the CPU running hot, or just the GPU?

One thing that could help with temps is enabling v-sync, or some other form of frame limiter. If your laptop's screen is only 60Hz, then it only updates the image 60 times per second, so getting any higher frame rates than that will just be causing the components to do more work than they have to, and will in turn cause them to run hotter than necessary. With the frame rate limited to 60fps, the hardware won't be getting pushed to its limits as often, and you'll likely see cooler temperatures.

And unless you are running into performance issues, 8GB of RAM will probably be fine for the time being. Relatively few games will benefit from having more than that unless you leave things like web browsers and other tasks open in the background while gaming, and RAM is priced rather high right now. It shouldn't matter if RAM use gets high while gaming, so long as it doesn't get to the point where parts of the game are getting swapped to disk, causing stuttering. Is that "61%" memory usage right after booting the computer, or with other software/games running?

 

[gamer.ceej]

Genuinely appreciating the information guys. I never knew that Vsync will help cool my temps. Usually, it's just the CPU that gets 90c (max temp) and my gpu gets 74c (more or less).

on with chrome on my memory usage is at 60% on idle it's 50%. That 61% was during when I was playing dauntless.

 

[gamer.ceej]

Just crossreferencing here, someone mentioned to me that it might be the windows 10 causing problems for me cause currently I have an update that I can't install because the error message saying that my hardware is not compatible with the Windows 10 version 1803 update. He said that I should reformat and reinstall windows 10. Will that solve anything?

 

[jacobweaver800]

Just crossreferencing here, someone mentioned to me that it might be the windows 10 causing problems for me cause currently I have an update that I can't install because the error message saying that my hardware is not compatible with the Windows 10 version 1803 update. He said that I should reformat and reinstall windows 10. Will that solve anything?

yes, it would work, but I recommend backing up all your files and games first to an external drive or another PC since it may take awhile to reinstall them depending on how you reset Windows.