Either way, you stretch the truth no matter which side of the fence you're on.
Spare me how you always judged everyone and thought you were the right person. I could very well right now link you to what you said once in your "departing and sad thread", but I am a fair player and will leave that in the past for now, unless you provoke me to. And for someone who drops by once per millenia to post "correction" facts, you sure do have nerves to judge. I just love talking about you indeed, because it only reminds me of the wussy who couldn't stand fanboys, who preached Intel so much. Of course I like to get on your back. I'd gladly get off soon though, depending on how you are willing to react.
You actually have the guts to call me a fanatical Intel preacher, and yet you make comments like these? I mean, Even I myself would not go so far as to make a comment like that. It's as though you believe Prescott will be the best thing since sliced bread.
One quote of mine does not equal the myriad of quotes you did for Intel my good bud.
Additionally I say this with all due honesty, that Prescott is a great evolution with much better process technologies. Where is it not that much?
It will easily scale to 5GHZ, no doubt, it has even more future-proof features, improved HT and others.
It has new features and HAS new process advancements (the PHYSICAL claim I said). So, why am I being overenthusiastic? I know it has trouble lately, but I'll be damned if one extra stepping won't turn it into a real player.
Please, lest we forget, you were far worse. You were literally traumatized by AMD fanboys.
Do you fail to ignore the fact the Prescott will be more dense, have a smaller die, AND use a larger percentage of CPU resources than Northwood?
Smaller die? Any proof so far? It will after all have an extra 512KB L2, alone cache takes a great amount of space. THEN it has extra Trace Cache space, and possibly extra L1. Furthermore HT is refined, and new instructions are introduced. Frankly if its die is not that of NW or closely by, I'd be surprised.
I realize it will use a higher percentage. However being a 0.09m component at 1.2V, the process technologies should have alleviated most heat problems. I would assume it would churn out 70W at 3.4GHZ, not more. I didn't expect that a higher utilisation of ressources meant ~30W more. Heck, just WHAT ARE those extra resources? I know HT will be refined, but it still has 6 pipes, nothing more nothing less, it's a matter of using them more often. The cache as you explained, is not that heat expensive.
I used to strongly believe in both Intel and AMD. But recently AMD's doings have done nothing to show me they are willing to remain in the desktop game (I could care less about them later on if they do fail at desktop performance and no longer compete there but rather in servers, just like I could care less for Sun's achievements, as server CPUs don't matter to me, Opteron or SPARC or whatever). Opteron is doing great selling to supercomputer labs. I believe it is their lifeline really. Athlon 64, is simply NOT going to save them. No matter how much better it is, it won't. It is not future-proof in any way, both feature-wise and Physically-wise. And you of all, I'd expect to have learned that.
Nonetheless, that doesn't mean I am completely leaving out hope for AMD. Few weeks ago I stated it's their end for sure, after hearing about their losses. But reading about Opteron's recent acquisitions by supercomputer labs, and some possible speed limits broken, I have slightly more faith. Doesn't mean I think AMD will bash Intel out. What I believe in my heart is that AMD is not anymore as good as before, and while I will keep hope, I simply won't look at their products for future-proofness any soon. So that means Prescott or Tejas for me, very likely so. (not to mention the ridiculous 3 sockets introduced in one year for A64)
As a trick question, suppose that the planets aligned on Sept. 23rd, and Athlon 64's performance is monstruous, able to beat Prescott by 10% or more, would you buy the AMD system? In fact, suppose AMD's reign continued for a few more model grades. Would you?
Guess you see why I am more enthusiastic about Intel, all the while without being biased
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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Eden on 08/03/03 04:27 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
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