Prescott vs Northwood

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The Pentium 4 Northwood reached a maximum of 4 GHz with a modicum of stability. Above this, signs of failure appeared in the form of Windows errors.

We used two conventional 3.2-GHz processors that can be bought at retail channels for this test. They thus reflect performance results that can be achieved with commercially available processors.

The following table shows the all configurations we benchmarked and tested:
CPU Clock FSB Clock CPU Voltage
P4 Northwood 3,207 MHz 200.5 MHz 1.55 V
P4 Northwood 3,535 MHz 220.9 MHz 1.55 V
P4 Northwood 3,695 MHz 230.9 MHz 1.55 V
P4 Northwood 3,866 MHz 241.7 MHz 1.575 V
P4 Northwood 4,009 MHz 250.6 MHz 1.625 V

P4 Prescott 3,207 MHz 200.5 MHz 1.375 V
P4 Prescott 3,535 MHz 220.9 MHz 1.375 V
P4 Prescott 3,695 MHz 230.9 MHz 1.375 V
P4 Prescott 3,866 MHz 241.7 MHz 1.40 V
P4 Prescott 4,009 MHz 250.6 MHz 1.425 V
P4 Prescott 4,149 MHz 259.4 MHz 1.50 V
In order for the processors to remain stable at 3.8-GHz and higher clock speeds, a compressor cooling system was required. The processor cores' voltages, which increased drastically at 4 GHz, produced a clear rise in thermal power - without the VapoChill the processor could not have handled the thermal power of well over 100 watts.
The P4 Prescott gained an edge over the Northwood with a somewhat higher maximum speed: 4.175 MHz, which indicates its potential.

Either way, they are still neck and neck.


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ok and we know that the Northwood is faster at the same clock speed, so there you go, thanks for proving my points further
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ok why in the world are you guys arguing over overclocking at all? are you avoiding the point that he wont be doing any overclocking at all?! you want to debate northwood vs prescott in general thats fine, but for this thread ti was about him, in his situation, it seme sliek youve forgotten about that...

he wont miss anyhting by going northwood and he will get a performance edge at astock speeds, which is what he will be using it at. later on when lg755 comes down, then he can make the move to prescott.
 
As a general rule, I recommend never being an early adopter of anything drastic, both for stability and cost.

Thus, the Prescott core is something I would never recommend now seeing as how it brings so many big changes with it, not even counting the processor itself.

DDR2 and PCI-Express are both not worth having at this moment. DDR and AGP8X are plenty good as benchmarks have shown.

So, for a less stable, hotter processor, you get to pay more for technology that is basically untested in the real world by a large public and has seen no significant performance gains.

Wait a half a year or so and then adopt the new technology, when it will be cheaper and better. Then I am sure Prescott will have matured into something not seen as a premature bust.

Honestly, when you buy into brand spanking new technology, you are basically a public beta tester, using a product the company intends to make cheaper and better in just a few short months, so why one would pay for the honor of doing so is a bit odd.

Go Northwood. It will see you through the next couple years, or at least until upgrading to a new level of technology is worth it.
 
Easy answer, read what petertoy wrote, then do the opposite. He has yet to make a usefull post. He has been nominated for moron of the month, and may yet make it to Village idiot.
 
ROFL I couldn't agree more.

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Hey, thanks for the all the responses guys... wow haha I didn't realize it would be so heated.

OK so I definetly want a Northwood (sorry all you Prescott fans), but here's the thing... I can't seem to find any online from pricewatch for a decent price anymore!! I think they're disappearing... so, a RETAIL prescott is like $220 and an OEM Northwood around $260... AHHHH!!! Someone help!

I'm actually leaving for Fry's Electronics in an hour, so PLEASE before I go if someone knows an online store where I can get the retail boxed Northwood chip for $230-ish or less PLEASE post it! I owe you!! :)

Thanks so much for all the help,

Dan
 
Apparently, the recent price drops Intel made does not seem to apply for the older Northwood cores. Seems these indeed are still priced in the $260 and up range for those that carry it. Newegg wants $290 for the Retail version, while only $245 for the Retail Prescott.


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Well I went down to Fry's and ended up getting the Northwood Pentium 4c 3.2GHz RETAIL box for $260. I got the Abit AI7 mobo ($120) since they were out of stock on the IS7. Looking at ABIT's website it looks like the AI7 is basically the IS7 with uGuru tech. Anyone have reservations on this mobo or setup (other than the Prescott fans, I know I know... sorry!)

Thanks again,

Dan
 
No, it should work fine. Enjoy!

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well if the prescott is cheaper, might as well go for it ..

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pretty much


plus they probably make more prescotts now

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oh , i dint know that

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you better be sorry, damnit

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The best board for the money is one of the oldest boards, the IS7. All the latest boards do nothing to make it look outdated. There just hasn't been that much going on in board tech, boards are just getting cheaper now, not better.

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Abit rearranged the AI7 to make it cheaper to produce. The only negatives I can see is that it doesn't have as many soundports and they moved the AGP slot down 1 position (I like it up high to keep it away from my PCI cards for cooling).

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What I've heard is that they run hotter and the sound is poorer than the IS7. That does little to tempt me into recommending it.


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