problems running games: exceed requirements, but still run bad

cjp1123

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Game running definition to me: smooth 20-30 fps no/little frame chopping


Here's an example of a game i can play on full fledged max.
recommended
CPU: 1.6 GHz Intel® Pentium® 4
GPU: 32 MB NVIDIA GeForce® 2 (support for Pixel Shader 3.0 recommended)
DX: DirectX® 9.0 or higher
OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP/Vista
Sound: DirectX® 9.0c-compatible sound card

Here's one i can play on medium high
recommended specs
Windows® 7 / Windows® 8 / Windows® 10 64-bit (latest service pack)
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 5600+ 2.8GHz
ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 or better
4 GB RAM

but this i cannot run on max... i can barely run it on medium
2 GHz Dual Core Processor (Intel Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon™ X2) or higher
2 GB RAM
Windows® XP
320 MB Video RAM, GPU w/ Shader Model 3.0 support, ATI Radeon™ HD30xx series or better

Here is my specs
2.0 ghz Amd APU-6 with Radeon HD 8400 (quad core w/ built in 512 mb vcard)
PCI based GPU 2GB Radeon HD 5450
6GB ram
Windows 8.1
Dx11
According to DxDiag - i have approximately 4052 MB Ram on the display tab (was 25xx with the 8400 due to Shared Ram)

drivers are up to date, according to AMD Auto detect,

So does anyone have any idea why i cant play this random game... on max?

-games for the curious

Audiosurf-max

DIablo 3-medium high

Red faction armageddon-problimatic
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Solution
Those were the minimum specs for red faction armageddon, that's why you can't run it at max.
These are the recommended specs, which also wouldn't guarantee the game run at max:
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7
Processor: Any Quad Core Processor(Intel® Core i5 or AMD Phenom™ II X4) or 3.0+ Dual Core CPU
Memory: 4GB System RAM or more
Graphics: 1GB Video RAM, GPU w/ Shader Model 4.0 support, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 400 series or better, ATI Radeon™ HD5000 series or better
DirectX®: 11
Hard Drive: 7.5 GB
Sound: 100% DirectX® 9.0C compliant sound card or equivalent onboard sound

You only barely meet the recommended settings, and your CPU is weaker than what it recommends.
The CPU it recommends is 100% better than yours...
Your biggest problem is your Radeon HD 5450, it's an incredibly weak graphics card, even when it first came out in 2009. If it's a PCI based card and not PCI-Express, that makes things even worse. Your integrated graphics chip is actually faster. Pull out the 5450, and run off integrated graphics, that will significantly improve performance.

 
you have a weak cpu and a weak gpu...... i dont know what you expect.
The recommended pc can be taken with a grain of salt too, you dont know what settings they use or what fps they deem acceptable on this "recommended pc".
And I agree, take out the 5450 as the integrated APU will likely be faster. It does not have a build in 512mb as you state, it uses system memory and can allocate as much as it needs.
 
when i put in the 5450 i was able to run stronger games with out a hitch like Beam NG Drive, i used to need it on minimal but now i can run it on medium as well, diablo 3 i needed minimal also, and according to the game itself the 5450 is in the recommended cards for the game, says series 5xxx or better, still not sure why id be better without it, it seems better than the 8400 that was built into my APU

though i definitely agree they should make the recommended based on full fledged settings, unfortunately my computer only has pci-e 2.0 and i didn't have $400 to spend on a gpu. ill just deal with it for now because i can play more games than i used to be able to, after i have the money ill just make a gaming rig
 
Those were the minimum specs for red faction armageddon, that's why you can't run it at max.
These are the recommended specs, which also wouldn't guarantee the game run at max:
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7
Processor: Any Quad Core Processor(Intel® Core i5 or AMD Phenom™ II X4) or 3.0+ Dual Core CPU
Memory: 4GB System RAM or more
Graphics: 1GB Video RAM, GPU w/ Shader Model 4.0 support, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 400 series or better, ATI Radeon™ HD5000 series or better
DirectX®: 11
Hard Drive: 7.5 GB
Sound: 100% DirectX® 9.0C compliant sound card or equivalent onboard sound

You only barely meet the recommended settings, and your CPU is weaker than what it recommends.
The CPU it recommends is 100% better than yours: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-A6-5200-APU/606vsm4574
 
Solution
NOtice again though my system specs...
Dx11
quad core (2.0)
6GB sysem ram
2 GB videocard (radeon hd 5450 (higher than the base 5000)

so the processor is a bit to slow for it, but i can run games that require more at a base? that makes no sense.

all the same i am attempting to save up money to build my own custom computer, ill turn this one into a family computer,

would anyone know if this would have any issues?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VRHyCJ

Note- it is supposed to have 2 of the video card for Crossfire /SLI whatever they call it might have to pick different ones later its just notes
any parts missing i already have (500W PSU for example)
 
dont crossfire low end cards, you will just end up with unexpected perfromance and for games that dont suppoort 2 cards, just the performance of a single card. Just get one decent card. Also, get an intel i5, and then you can go with a cheaper motherboard to make up the price difference of the cpu. It will perform better across more games. You will also need a power supply or it wont work at all.