Proposed watercooling layout - your thoughts?

[grebgonebad]

Hi all!

Okay, so long story short I'm going to be building a PC soon with custom watercooling, and I have come up with a proposed layout (Pictured below). As I'm new to watercooling I'd like your advice as to whether this is good or not.

Some things to keep in mind:

- I want all my tubing runs to be straight, i.e. no curves
- Due to the fact I will be using dual 850watt PSU's there is limited space at the basement for tubing
- I want to use the 480mm plus a 240mm rad for the GPU loop, with the remaining 2 x 240mm rads being used for the CPU

With that in mind, here are a few pictures I threw together in powerpoint (Sorry, but my professional photographer-slash-Photoshop expert was out =P), the first picture depicts the GPU Loop, the second the CPU loop, and the third is there to show you exactly where the two pumps/reservoirs/basement rads are positioned.

Forgot to mention I put the front 240mm rad behind the reservoirs in this pic for illustration purposes, it will in fact be positioned forward of the pumps and reservoirs in relation to this picture...

Your thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated guys!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

What equipment requires 1700 watts ?

How are the GFX cards plumbed .... series or parallel ? Looks like serial which will make GPU 1 run significantly hotter and may affect GPU overclocking ... pic of parallel loop at bottom

The two bottom rads are blowing into each other .

Push, pull or push / pull ?

Is this an X99 or Z97 w/ PLX build ? MoBo Block ?

What pump ya using ?

Separate loops double chance of system going down

Case ventilation looks problematic.....normally rad fans take outside cold air into case which is exhausted by exhaust fans or grilles.... looks like all your grilles are used....any chance of 144mm wide rads to reduce number of rads required ?

Suggest top feeding reservoirs

Piping would be simpler using the bottom 2 res's in same loop (CPU)

Parallel Plumbing example

 

[grebgonebad]

@ JackNaylorPE - Thanks for your reply!

As far as the wattage goes I'm going to be running the 3 GPU's on their own supply. I calculated how many watts this rig was going to pull anyway and it was in excess of 1300watts so I decided to opt for the dual PSU solution.

I was planning on series, never thought about parallel (I'm new to custom watercooling you see), so now that you mention it I may well plumb them in parallel. With this in mind what are those circular pieces to the right of the GPU's and what are they for?

The rads in the basement will be configured as follows:

So there will be no restriction in airflow.

It will be X99, Asus Rampage V Extreme X99, Intel Core i7-5960x. No motherboard or memory waterblock, just the CPU and GPU's, however I am including more rads than I need so I may upgrade to mobo and RAM blocks in the future.

I'll be using Swiftech MCP 655 pumps, complete with mod kits.

I plan on installing monitoring equipment into both loops such as flow meters and temperature sensors to ensure I catch any problem long before it causes any damage. =)

The rear of the case shall have a 140mm exhaust fan installed, and if it is needed I can fit an additional 120mm exhaust in the front.

I have made sure I have planned out my loops so that the reservoirs are gravity fed into the pump. =) They will be positioned above the pumps themselves, much in the same way the ones are in this image:

I assume you mean the bottom 2 radiators? I planned on using one of the bottom rads per pump, with the pump feeding directly into the rad and then that rad would feed into either the CPU or the GPU, depending on which loop it was. I'm trying to keep the layout as clean as possible which I'm sure you can understand. =)

Thanks for the image, it was good to see the parallel system you mentioned!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I can't get to 1300 without using 290x's

(3) 980's = 600 watts
(1) 5960x = 230 watts
(1) MoBo = 20 watts
(2) Pumps = 45 watts
(2) HDs = 20 watts
(2) SSDs = 10 watts
(2) Misc = 20 watts
(20) Fans = 36 watts

Just under 1,000 .... This puts you in range of the Seasonic X-1250 which is prolly still the best PSU around.

If you plumb in series .... you have 3 restrictions in a row. Have you calculated your restrictions ?

My calcs are below ... GPU Block - 0.75 (0.75 gpm) ... in parallel that would have been 0.75 x (1.50 / 1.75)^2 or 3 PSI x 2 blocks = 6 psi

Let's say you only do 1.25 gpm .... that's about 2 psi. In series , that's 2 + 2 + 2 = 6 psi just from the blocks.

Your blocks may have less restriction but:

Let's say ya block has only 0.25 psi restriction at 0.5 gpm. Then:

In parallel with the pump at 1.5 gpm......total block restriction = 0.25 psi

In series with the pump at only 1.25 gpm ... total block restriction is 1.56 psi per card or 3 psi for all 4.68 psi.... that's a lot. The Swiftech 655 tops out at about 4.3 psi at 1.25 gpm and that's full tilt and loud....and what about the rads, fittings, res, tubing restrictions.... I don't see serial being doable.

=============================================
All numbers from Martins test and where missing used this but calculated the flow for 1.5 gpm
http://martinsliquidlab.org/pump-planning-guide/

Components :

360 radiator - 0.4 psi (from liquidlab - 1.5 gpm)
240 radiator - 0.3 (that's for 360) so we'll use 0.2 (1.5 gpm)
CPU Block - 1.35 (1.5 gpm)
GPU Block - 0.75 (0.75 gpm)
MoBo Block - 0.5 (1.5 gpm)

Subtotal Components = 3.3 psi


Tubing:

12" (1.00') @ 0.75 gpm = 0.0 psi
36" (3.00') @ 1.5 gpm - 0.3 psi

Subtotal Tube = 0.3 psi


Fittings are based upon K values (HL - K * V^2 / 2g where g = 32.2) (HL is in ft of water)
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/minor-loss-coefficients-pipes-d_626.html#.UpIiKOKQOfs

Velocity in parallel portion = 2.18 fps
Velocity in loop = 4.36 fps

K -values

(1) Reservoir Inlet - 0.5
(1) Reservoir Outlet - 1.0
90 degree fittings - 1.5
45 degree fittings - 0.4
Tee Run - 0.9
Tee Branch - 2.0
Flow meter - 0.5

For parallel portion .....

K = 2.0 (branch T) + 0.5 (flow meter) + 0.8 (two 45's) +4.5 (three 90s) + 0.9 (tee run) = 8.7

8.7 * (2.18)^2 / (2*32.2) = 0.64 Ft of water = 0.28 psi

For rest of loop .....

K = 24 (sixteen 90s) + 1.5 (reservoir) = 25.5

25.5 * (4.36)^2 / (2*32.2) = 0.64 Ft of water = 7.53 ft of water = 3.26 psi

Fittings subtotal = 0.28 + 3.26 = 3.54 psi

If I did all my math right (haven't had coffee yet) .....

Total Backpressure = 3.3 + 0.3 + 3.54 = 7.14 psi

Keep in mind that that's at a relatively high 1.5 gpm and that tubing is a lot smoother than metal pipe which is what the co-efficients and friction factors are taken from. BTW, that puts about 0.7 pounds of pressure trying to pull apart ya fittings

Looking here, my 35x2 will delver 1.5 gpm at about 7 psi at about 50% PWM
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/01/29/swiftech-mcp35x2-pump/6/
=================================================================================


In the arrangement indicated, your 2nd bottom rad will be have it's performance reduced by at least half. Cool ambient air comes in at say 23C and will exit the 1st rad at 28C (Delta T of 5C) .... so your 2nd rad will have "pre-heated" air as its cooling source thereby greatly impacting it's efficiency. If that's a GPU rad (600 watt loop) feeding that hot air into the CPU rad (only 230 watts) the impact will be greater.

Your GPU loop has 100 watts per 120mm of Rad
Your CPU loop has 57.5 watts per 120mm of Rad

Since the CPU loop is underloaded, the CPU loop can more easily shake off the preheating. The 2 x 240's will only have the equivalent performance of a 360 due to the preheating and that gets you to 76.7 watts per 120mm which is a good range...each 120mm @ 1250 rpm in P/P is good for about 125 watts of load. So not only is the piping using the bottom 2 in the same loop easier and much cleaner, it also mitigates the performance hit on those bottom rads.

The doodads you are asking about are flow meters.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16903/ex-tub-1371/Bitspower_G14_Thread_Flow_Sensor_-_Matte_Black_BP-FS-CLBKMBK.html?tl=c101s457b145&id=Yx7WBBF3

For temp sensors I used these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10373/ex-tub-620/Bitspower_G_14_Temperature_Sensor_Stop_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-CT.html?tl=c101s457b145&id=Yx7WBBF3

And this for temp monitoring
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/25172/bus-393/Reeven_Six_Eyes_II_30W_6_Channel_Fan_Controller_Temp_Sensor_-_Black_RFC-02.html

Yes, I expected that they would be gravity fed, but you can have gravity feed and still use only bottom ports. Recognizing that your res outlet comes out of the bottom of the res which is above the pump, what I am talking about is filling the res thru the top rather than the bottom.

Coolant comes in the res from the top and goes out the bottom....simplifies piping, cleaner look and aids in air bubble removal as well as reducing turbulence at res outlet

 

[grebgonebad]

I can't get to 1300 without using 290x's

(3) 980's = 600 watts
(1) 5960x = 230 watts
(1) MoBo = 20 watts
(2) Pumps = 45 watts
(2) HDs = 20 watts
(2) SSDs = 10 watts
(2) Misc = 20 watts
(20) Fans = 36 watts

Just under 1,000 .... This puts you in range of the Seasonic X-1250 which is prolly still the best PSU around.

If you plumb in series .... you have 3 restrictions in a row. Have you calculated your restrictions ?

My calcs are below ... GPU Block - 0.75 (0.75 gpm) ... in parallel that would have been 0.75 x (1.50 / 1.75)^2 or 3 PSI x 2 blocks = 6 psi

Let's say you only do 1.25 gpm .... that's about 2 psi. In series , that's 2 + 2 + 2 = 6 psi just from the blocks.

Your blocks may have less restriction but:

Let's say ya block has only 0.25 psi restriction at 0.5 gpm. Then:

In parallel with the pump at 1.5 gpm......total block restriction = 0.25 psi

In series with the pump at only 1.25 gpm ... total block restriction is 1.56 psi per card or 3 psi for all 4.68 psi.... that's a lot. The Swiftech 655 tops out at about 4.3 psi at 1.25 gpm and that's full tilt and loud....and what about the rads, fittings, res, tubing restrictions.... I don't see serial being doable.

=============================================
All numbers from Martins test and where missing used this but calculated the flow for 1.5 gpm
http://martinsliquidlab.org/pump-planning-guide/

Components :

360 radiator - 0.4 psi (from liquidlab - 1.5 gpm)
240 radiator - 0.3 (that's for 360) so we'll use 0.2 (1.5 gpm)
CPU Block - 1.35 (1.5 gpm)
GPU Block - 0.75 (0.75 gpm)
MoBo Block - 0.5 (1.5 gpm)

Subtotal Components = 3.3 psi


Tubing:

12" (1.00') @ 0.75 gpm = 0.0 psi
36" (3.00') @ 1.5 gpm - 0.3 psi

Subtotal Tube = 0.3 psi


Fittings are based upon K values (HL - K * V^2 / 2g where g = 32.2) (HL is in ft of water)
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/minor-loss-coefficients-pipes-d_626.html#.UpIiKOKQOfs

Velocity in parallel portion = 2.18 fps
Velocity in loop = 4.36 fps

K -values

(1) Reservoir Inlet - 0.5
(1) Reservoir Outlet - 1.0
90 degree fittings - 1.5
45 degree fittings - 0.4
Tee Run - 0.9
Tee Branch - 2.0
Flow meter - 0.5

For parallel portion .....

K = 2.0 (branch T) + 0.5 (flow meter) + 0.8 (two 45's) +4.5 (three 90s) + 0.9 (tee run) = 8.7

8.7 * (2.18)^2 / (2*32.2) = 0.64 Ft of water = 0.28 psi

For rest of loop .....

K = 24 (sixteen 90s) + 1.5 (reservoir) = 25.5

25.5 * (4.36)^2 / (2*32.2) = 0.64 Ft of water = 7.53 ft of water = 3.26 psi

Fittings subtotal = 0.28 + 3.26 = 3.54 psi

If I did all my math right (haven't had coffee yet) .....

Total Backpressure = 3.3 + 0.3 + 3.54 = 7.14 psi

Keep in mind that that's at a relatively high 1.5 gpm and that tubing is a lot smoother than metal pipe which is what the co-efficients and friction factors are taken from. BTW, that puts about 0.7 pounds of pressure trying to pull apart ya fittings

Looking here, my 35x2 will delver 1.5 gpm at about 7 psi at about 50% PWM
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/01/29/swiftech-mcp35x2-pump/6/
=================================================================================


In the arrangement indicated, your 2nd bottom rad will be have it's performance reduced by at least half. Cool ambient air comes in at say 23C and will exit the 1st rad at 28C (Delta T of 5C) .... so your 2nd rad will have "pre-heated" air as its cooling source thereby greatly impacting it's efficiency. If that's a GPU rad (600 watt loop) feeding that hot air into the CPU rad (only 230 watts) the impact will be greater.

Your GPU loop has 100 watts per 120mm of Rad
Your CPU loop has 57.5 watts per 120mm of Rad

Since the CPU loop is underloaded, the CPU loop can more easily shake off the preheating. The 2 x 240's will only have the equivalent performance of a 360 due to the preheating and that gets you to 76.7 watts per 120mm which is a good range...each 120mm @ 1250 rpm in P/P is good for about 125 watts of load. So not only is the piping using the bottom 2 in the same loop easier and much cleaner, it also mitigates the performance hit on those bottom rads.

The doodads you are asking about are flow meters.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16903/ex-tub-1371/Bitspower_G14_Thread_Flow_Sensor_-_Matte_Black_BP-FS-CLBKMBK.html?tl=c101s457b145&id=Yx7WBBF3

For temp sensors I used these:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10373/ex-tub-620/Bitspower_G_14_Temperature_Sensor_Stop_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-CT.html?tl=c101s457b145&id=Yx7WBBF3

And this for temp monitoring
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/25172/bus-393/Reeven_Six_Eyes_II_30W_6_Channel_Fan_Controller_Temp_Sensor_-_Black_RFC-02.html

Yes, I expected that they would be gravity fed, but you can have gravity feed and still use only bottom ports. Recognizing that your res outlet comes out of the bottom of the res which is above the pump, what I am talking about is filling the res thru the top rather than the bottom.

Coolant comes in the res from the top and goes out the bottom....simplifies piping, cleaner look and aids in air bubble removal as well as reducing turbulence at res outlet

Apologies for my late reply, I've just started a new job and the hours are...awkward. XD

Thanks for your detailed reply, much appreciated!

As of this moment I am going to be utilising dual 850 watt PSU's, not that I don't know 1700 watts is WAY more than I need. I don't really want to just go for a single PSU as it would look wierd (I know, sounds stupid =P), and I want to try and keep everything looking as neat as possible. =)

I never actually thought about flow restrictions in this sense, so thanks for clarifying. I will in fact be plumbing the GPU's in parallel now, probably in a similar configuration to that shown in the picture in your previous reply. I shall also be utilising the Bitspower flow meters as you suggested, along with the display and temperature sensors. =)

About the bottom radiators, If I were to dedicate both to the CPU the fan configuration shouldn't matter as much should it? This would leave the top 480 and front 240 for the GPU's? I have attached pictures at the bottom of this post showing my new proposed layout, including the basement rad config. Your thoughts?

My apologies with regards to the res. I misunderstood what you were on about. =P Thanks for the advice, I think I will do what you suggested and have the res filled from the top. I assume that in order to eliminate any trickling noises you simply fill the entire system and then just make sure the res is filled right to the top? Also, would filling the res from the top create the 'vortex' effect I've read about online?


I have a couple other questions for you, if you have the time to take a look?

1. I will be utilising a red colour scheme throughout now (It was originally white until I changed the motherboard for a ROG), is it best to use coloured coolant or coloured tubing? I am considering coloured tubing with clear coolant and then picking up a couple of reservoirs that had red LED lighting inside, which I think would look pretty cool?

2. Can you explain what all the different sizes mean with regards to fittings and accessories? For example the Bitspower flow meters state G1/4 thread, so I assume I am looking for G1/4 compression fittings, but when I took a look at Bitspower compression fittings and I can see G1/4 3/8 and G1/4 5/8. Is this referring to the inside diameter of the tubing?

3. What tubing would you recommend? I keep reading on how tubing is degrading?

4. What coolant would you recommend?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Flow restriction concerns was 1 of the 3 reasons I went with the 35x2 (redundancy, lower noise, and oomph).

2 x 120s is just about ideal for a CPU; 2 x 140s a bit better...... you'll have the equivalent of 3 x 120s, so with one in and one out you will have about 10% more cooling than 2 x 140.

I didn't fill my res as you can see in the pick.... there's an anti vortex thingamajiggey in the EK Res. Toy will need a multi-port top and fill tube

This was my res shoppinmg lisy

EK-MultiOption RES X3 250 - Liquid Cooling Reservoir - White Acetal (6 Total Ports) w/ (2) EK Extender Fittings http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21672/ex-res-677/EK-MultiOption_RES_X3_250_-_Liquid_Cooling_Reservoir_-_White_Acetal_6_Total_Ports.html?tl=g57c615s1940#blank

EK X3 Reservoir Multiport Replacement Top - White (EK-RES X3 - Multiport TOP WHITE)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18485/ex-res-481/EK_X3_Reservoir_Multiport_Replacement_Top_-_White_EK-RES_X3_-_Multiport_TOP_WHITE.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1254

Internal Tube 12/16 - 140mm (EK-RES-X3-TUBE-140
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_1165_1162&products_id=36312

2 x EK G1/4 Thread Fitting Extender - Nickel - 8mm (Fitting Extender G1/4 (Ni)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18760/scr-701/EK_G14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Nickel_-_8mm_Fitting_Extender_G14_Ni.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1256

If not using an EK Res, Bitspower has a similar fitting

1. Cleat Tubing, colored coolant

2. Threads all G-1/4...tubing is based upon whether metric or imperial. Bistpower is metric and works with 10mm IS /12mm OD tubing

3. I recommend 10/12 rigid acrylic tube. I use short lengths (< 3") of flexible tube (Tygon 2475) at pump connections for vibration isolation. Most folks recommend the Primochill LRT

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c99/s171/list/p1/b46/PrimoChill-Tubing-38_x_12_Tubing-Page1.html

4. What coolant would you recommend?

Mayhems pastel

For the CPU rad piping

In . . . . . . Out____In . . . . . . Out
|___________| . . . |___________|
| . Radiator .. | . . . | . Radiator .. |
| . Radiator .. | . . . | . Radiator .. |
| . Radiator .. | . . . | . Radiator .. |

 

[grebgonebad]

Flow restriction concerns was 1 of the 3 reasons I went with the 35x2 (redundancy, lower noise, and oomph).

2 x 120s is just about ideal for a CPU; 2 x 140s a bit better...... you'll have the equivalent of 3 x 120s, so with one in and one out you will have about 10% more cooling than 2 x 140.

I didn't fill my res as you can see in the pick.... there's an anti vortex thingamajiggey in the EK Res. Toy will need a multi-port top and fill tube

This was my res shoppinmg lisy

EK-MultiOption RES X3 250 - Liquid Cooling Reservoir - White Acetal (6 Total Ports) w/ (2) EK Extender Fittings http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21672/ex-res-677/EK-MultiOption_RES_X3_250_-_Liquid_Cooling_Reservoir_-_White_Acetal_6_Total_Ports.html?tl=g57c615s1940#blank

EK X3 Reservoir Multiport Replacement Top - White (EK-RES X3 - Multiport TOP WHITE)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18485/ex-res-481/EK_X3_Reservoir_Multiport_Replacement_Top_-_White_EK-RES_X3_-_Multiport_TOP_WHITE.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1254

Internal Tube 12/16 - 140mm (EK-RES-X3-TUBE-140
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_1165_1162&products_id=36312

2 x EK G1/4 Thread Fitting Extender - Nickel - 8mm (Fitting Extender G1/4 (Ni)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18760/scr-701/EK_G14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Nickel_-_8mm_Fitting_Extender_G14_Ni.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1256

If not using an EK Res, Bitspower has a similar fitting

1. Cleat Tubing, colored coolant

2. Threads all G-1/4...tubing is based upon whether metric or imperial. Bistpower is metric and works with 10mm IS /12mm OD tubing

3. I recommend 10/12 rigid acrylic tube. I use short lengths (< 3") of flexible tube (Tygon 2475) at pump connections for vibration isolation. Most folks recommend the Primochill LRT

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c99/s171/list/p1/b46/PrimoChill-Tubing-38_x_12_Tubing-Page1.html

4. What coolant would you recommend?

Mayhems pastel

For the CPU rad piping

In . . . . . . Out____In . . . . . . Out
|___________| . . . |___________|
| . Radiator .. | . . . | . Radiator .. |
| . Radiator .. | . . . | . Radiator .. |
| . Radiator .. | . . . | . Radiator .. |

After doing some more research I've decided to get the following size radiators:

1 x 480mm (Top)
2 x 280mm (Basement)
1 x 360mm (Front)

I'n still awaiting confirmation from Corsair that I'll be able to fit all these in, but I'm pretty sure they can. I decided to step up the 240's in the basement to 280's because why not basically, bigger radiator = larger effective surface area right? Basic thermal dynamics. The same goes for the front 360. The only reason I didn't include a 360 originally is because I didn't think it would fit what with having radiators in the basement, but after studying a few pictures and videos it looks like there's room. =)

Thanks for the advice about using acrylic tubing, I am going to take it! =D I have heard it's a bit harder to install, is this true or is it still pretty simple?

I've decided to go with XSPC Photon 270 Tube Reservoir's which have an internal baffle, so the vortex effect shouldn't be an issue from what I've read.

I didn't realise that you could get small pipes that fit into your reservoir to eliminate the trickling noise. I'll definitely add a couple of those to my shopping list.

Can I ask why you suggest coloured coolant as opposed to distilled water? From what I read elsewhere coloured coolant only has one advantage, and that's the fact that it looks better than coloured tubing, and that it has the drawbacks of needing replacing and your system purging more often to reduce the risk of material build up, as well as staining tubing?

 

[JGFMK]

@JackNaylorPE What case was your build? Do you have a total part list - per something like partpicker - a system configuration tool? I'd also have loved to have seen a scanned drawing even if had written of how everything flows in your build. Also would like to PM you about other sites you've found useful.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

After doing some more research I've decided to get the following size radiators:

1 x 480mm (Top)
2 x 280mm (Basement)
1 x 360mm (Front)

I'n still awaiting confirmation from Corsair that I'll be able to fit all these in, but I'm pretty sure they can. I decided to step up the 240's in the basement to 280's because why not basically, bigger radiator = larger effective surface area right? Basic thermal dynamics. The same goes for the front 360. The only reason I didn't include a 360 originally is because I didn't think it would fit what with having radiators in the basement, but after studying a few pictures and videos it looks like there's room. =)

Thanks for the advice about using acrylic tubing, I am going to take it! =D I have heard it's a bit harder to install, is this true or is it still pretty simple?

I've decided to go with XSPC Photon 270 Tube Reservoir's which have an internal baffle, so the vortex effect shouldn't be an issue from what I've read.

I didn't realise that you could get small pipes that fit into your reservoir to eliminate the trickling noise. I'll definitely add a couple of those to my shopping list.

Can I ask why you suggest coloured coolant as opposed to distilled water? From what I read elsewhere coloured coolant only has one advantage, and that's the fact that it looks better than coloured tubing, and that it has the drawbacks of needing replacing and your system purging more often to reduce the risk of material build up, as well as staining tubing?

Sorry, missed this coming up again till recent post.

-Yes, the Enthoo Pro made all those fit concerns go away so I had an easy time.

-Acrylic tubing is a lotta work and expensive.

-You can't add anything to the Photon, as i recall you can't fill from top either which is the purpose of those tubes.

-Pure distilled water to my mind is not an options.... not without biocides and corrosion inhibitors. The colored coolants come with all that and add aesthetics. I ran on distilled water for a week.... saw no change in temps after switching

@JackNaylorPE What case was your build? Do you have a total part list - per something like partpicker - a system configuration tool? I'd also have loved to have seen a scanned drawing even if had written of how everything flows in your build. Also would like to PM you about other sites you've found useful.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1418637/official-case-phanteks-club-enthoo-primo-enthoo-luxe-enthoo-pro-lovers-owners/990

See post 1000

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator

Parts list in next post

 

[JackNaylorPE]

It's not 100% correct and I had few fittings left over

1 Case - Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate Chassis
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854001

2 PSU - Seasonic X-1250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151109

3 MoBo - Asus Maximus VI Formula
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132038

4 CPU - Intel 4770k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

5 RAM - (2 x 8GB) Muskin CAS 10 DDR3-2400
http://www.ramexperts.com/ddr3/performance-desktop/ddr3-pc3-19200-2400mhz/mushkin-997122-ddr3-udimm-2x8gb-16gb-pc3-19200-2400mhz-10-12-12-28-redline-frostbyte-1-65v.html

6 SSD - 2 x SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193

7 Hard Drive - 2 x Seagate ST2000DX001 2TB MLC/8GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s NCQ 3.5"
Desktop Solid State Hybrid Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178380

8a Primary GFX Card - Asus GTX 780 DCII
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121779

8b Seconary GFX Card - Asus GTX 780 DCII
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121779

9 USB Drive - Mushkin Ventura Pro 64GB Flash Drive
http://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Ventura-Pro-Flash-Drive/dp/B005BGKAGC

10 Optical - Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135252

11 Monitor - ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

12 Keyboard - Logitech G19s 920-004985
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126324

13 Mouse - ASUS Republic of Gamers GX950 Laser Mouse
http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-GX950-Laser-Mouse/dp/B0084FVWO6

14 Speakers - Logitech Z5500 NA
Existing

15 Top Rad Push Fans (3) - PH-F140SP_BK_BLED
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709024

16 Top Rad Pull Fans (3) - PH-F140SP_BK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709023

17 Bottom Rad Fans (4) - PH-F140SP_BK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709023

18 OS - Windows 7 64 Bit Professional OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992

19 PSU Tester - Thermaltake AC0015 Dr. Power II Power Tester
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899109003

20 LED Strip - 5 Meter Black 3528 SMD White 300 LEDs
http://www.amazon.com/LED-Outlets-Meter-Black-Waterproof-Flexible/dp/B00E9N7SX6



PUMP ASSEMBLY

1 Pump(s) - Swiftech Dual Extreme Duty Small Form Factor 12 VDC Industrial PWM Pump - Black (MCP35X2-BK)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14961/ex-pmp-173/Swiftech_Dual_Extreme_Duty_Small_Form_Factor_12_VDC_Industrial_PWM_Pump_-_Black_MCP35X2-BK.html

2 Pump Heat Sink - Swiftech MCP35x2 Dual Pump Heatsink (MCP35X2-HS)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16233/ex-pmp-195/Swiftech_MCP35x2_Dual_Pump_Heatsink_MCP35X2-HS.html

3 Heat Sink Fan - Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PC-P 80mm x 15mm Ultra Silent PWM Fan - 2500 RPM
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/16392/fan-1017_4.jpg/fan-1017/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentPro_PC-P_80mm_x_15mm_Ultra_Silent_PWM_Fan_-_2500_RPM.html

RESERVOIR ASSEMBLY

4 Reservoir - EK-MultiOption RES X3 250 - Liquid Cooling Reservoir - White Acetal (6 Total Ports) w/ (2) EK Extender Fittings http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21672/ex-res-677/EK-MultiOption_RES_X3_250_-_Liquid_Cooling_Reservoir_-_White_Acetal_6_Total_Ports.html?tl=g57c615s1940#blank

5 Reservoir Top - EK X3 Reservoir Multiport Replacement Top - White (EK-RES X3 - Multiport TOP WHITE)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18485/ex-res-481/EK_X3_Reservoir_Multiport_Replacement_Top_-_White_EK-RES_X3_-_Multiport_TOP_WHITE.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1254

6 Reservoir Fill Tube Internal Tube 12/16 - 140mm (EK-RES-X3-TUBE-140
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_1165_1162&products_id=36312

7 EK - Extender Fitting - EK G1/4 Thread Fitting Extender - Nickel - 8mm (Fitting Extender G1/4 (Ni)) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18760/scr-701/EK_G14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Nickel_-_8mm_Fitting_Extender_G14_Ni.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=1256

RADIATOR ASSEMBLY

8 CPU Radiator @ Case Bottom - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Double 140mm Radiator 324 x 144 x 60mm (Radiator Watts at 10C, 1250 rpm = 206)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html

9 GPU Radiator @ Case Top - Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper Triple 140mm Radiator 468 x144 x 46mm (Radiator Watts at 10C, 1250 rpm = 302)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16830/ex-rad-431/Alphacool_NexXxoS_XT45_Full_Copper_Triple_140mm_Radiator.html

10 Temperature Probes Water (4) - Bitspower G 1/4" Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-CT)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10373/ex-tub-620/Bitspower_G_14_Temperature_Sensor_Stop_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-CT.html?tl=c229s579b145&id=kISyRgfV&mv_pc=643

11 Temperature Probes Air (2) - Bitspower G 1/4" Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-CT) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10373/ex-tub-620/Bitspower_G_14_Temperature_Sensor_Stop_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-CT.html?tl=c229s579b145&id=kISyRgfV&mv_pc=643

12 G1/4 Fitting Extender - Bitspower G 1/4" Thread Fitting Extender - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C40) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10371/ex-tub-618/Bitspower_G_14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C40.html?tl=c101s1354b145#options

13 Fill Port Plug - Bitspower G1/4" Low Profile Matte Black Stop Plug w/ O-Ring (BP-MBWP-C09) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10362/ex-tub-610/Bitspower_G14_Low_Profile_Matte_Black_Stop_Plug_w_O-Ring_BP-MBWP-C09.html

WATER BLOCKS

14 CPU Water Block - EK Supremacy Universal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Clean Plexi (EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ) - No Circles [3830046990808]
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19628/ex-blc-1442/EK_Supremacy_Universal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Clean_Plexi_EK-Supremacy_Clean_CSQ.html?tl=g57c603s1912

15 CPU Water Block 3mm Diodes - 3mm Red LED
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1805/ele-15/3mm_Red_LED.html?tl=g6c455s117

16 Enthoo LED PCB Connector Factop 2Pin Male Female Waterproof JST Wire LED Light Strips Connector Cable Lamp
http://www.amazon.com/Factop-Female-Waterproof-Strips-Connector/dp/B00FWJAMBG/ref=sr_1_34?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1383590899&sr

17 GPU Water Block - EK ASUS GeForce 780 GTX DCII VGA Liquid Cooling Block - Nickel (EK-FC780 GTX DCII - Nickel)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21270/ex-blc-1529/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_Nickel.html?tl=c613s1928b133

18 GPU Water Block Backplate - EK ASUS GeForce 780 GTX DCII VGA Liquid Cooling RAM Backplate - Black CSQ (EK-FC780 GTX DCII Backplate - Black)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21273/ex-blc-1532/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_RAM_Backplate_-_Black_CSQ_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_Backplate_-_Black.html?tl=c613s1928b133

19 Surface Cleaner - Indigo Xtreme Clean Non-Conductive Thermal Surface Cleaner - 30mL (XC-01)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13256/thr-106/Indigo_Xtreme_Clean_Non-Conductive_Thermal_Surface_Cleaner_-_30mL_XC-01.html

20 TIM Gelid Solutions GC-3 Extreme Thermal Compound - 3.5 Grams (TC-GC-03-A)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13313/thr-108/Gelid_Solutions_GC-3_Extreme_Thermal_Compound_-_35_Grams_TC-GC-03-A.html


TUBING AND FITTINGS

21 Rigid 10/12 mm Acrylic Tubing (3) - EK 12mm OD Solid Tube Set - Clear - 2x 19.5" (EK-HD Tube 10/12mm 500mm (2 pcs)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21244/ex-tub-2002/

22 G1/4" x Rigid Tubing Connector (Male) (18)- Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

23 G1/4" x Rigid Tubing Connector (Female) (10) - Bitspower G1/4 Matte Black Multi-Link Adapter (BP-MBWP-C68)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12748/ex-tub-818/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Multi-Link_Adapter_BP-MBWP-C68.html#blank

24 G1/4" 90° Rotary Bend (22) - Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black Rotary 90° G1/4" Adapter (BP-MB90R)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10376/ex-tub-629/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Rotary_90_G14_Adapter_BP-MB90R.html?tl=c101s1306b145

25 G1/4" 45° Rotary Bend (4) - Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black Rotary 45 Degree G1/4" Adapter (BP-MB45R)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11887/ex-tub-737/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Dual_Rotary_45-Degree_Compression_Fitting_CC2_For_ID_38_OD_12_Tube_BP-MB45R2CPF-CC2.html

26 G1/4" Tee Fitting (2) - Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black T Adapter (BP-MBTMB)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10382/ex-tub-622/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_T_Adapter_BP-MBTMB.html

27 G1/4" x Compression Connector (Male) (6) - Bitspower G1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 1/2" OD Rotary Compression Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBRCPF-CC2)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11107/ex-tub-700/Bitspower_G14_Thread_38_ID_x_12_OD_Rotary_Compression_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBRCPF-CC2.html?tl=c409s1032b145

28 Quick-Disconnect for Drain - Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Male w/ Inner G1/4 (BP-MBQDMIG14)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17966/ex-tub-1636/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Male_w_Inner_G14_BP-MBQDMIG14.html

29 Quick-Disconnect for Drain - Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Female w/ G1/4 Thread (BP-MBQDFG14)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17965/ex-tub-1635/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Female_w_G14_Thread_BP-MBQDFG14.html

30 Tubing (6') - Tygon 2475 Ultra Chemical Resistant Plasticizer Free Tubing - 3/8" ID (1/2" OD) - Clear (ACG00027)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10691/ex-tub-663/Tygon_2475_Ultra_Chemical_Resistant_Plasticizer_Free_Tubing_-_38_ID_12_OD_-_Clear_ACG00027.html

31 Coolant Concentrate (2) - Mayhems - Pastel Red Coolant Concentrate
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17708/ex-liq-285/Mayhems_Pastel_Coolant_Concentrate_-_250mL_-_Red.html

32 EK Extender - Comes with Reservoir

33 Funnel - Koolance Threaded Rubber Funnel w/ Bleed Tube - G1/4" Thread (LIQ-FNL) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10256/koo-206/Koolance_Threaded_Rubber_Funnel_-_G14_Thread_LIQ-FNL.html

34 Bleeder Valve (2) - Bitspower G1/4" Mini Valve - Matte Black (BP-MVV-MBK)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14596/ex-tub-1035/Bitspower_G14_Mini_Valve_-_Matte_Black_BP-MVV-MBK.html?tl=c101s1332b145

35 G1/4 30mm Fitting Extender (4) - Bitspower G1/4 Male to Female Extender - 30mm - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C63)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12340/ex-tub-777/Bitspower_G14_Male_to_Female_Extender_-_30mm_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C63.html?tl=c101s1354b145

36 Flow Meter (2) - Bitspower G1/4 Thread Flow Sensor - Matte Black (BP-FS-CLBKMBK)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16903/ex-tub-1371/Bitspower_G14_Thread_Flow_Sensor_-_Matte_Black_BP-FS-CLBKMBK.html?tl=c101s457b145

37 Male by Male Extender (4) - Bitspower Dual G1/4" Male / Male Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C08)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10363/ex-tub-609/Bitspower_Dual_G14_Male_Male_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C08.html?tl=c101s1354b145
CABLES, SLEEVING AND ELECTRICAL

38 PSU - AC to DC Adapter - 110V AC to 12V DC Converter w/ Standard 4 Pin (5000mA Max)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9106/bus-192/AC_to_DC_Adapter_-_110V_AC_to_12V_DC_Converter_w_Standard_4_Pin_5000mA_Max.html

39 Fan Controller - Reeven RFC-01 Six Eyes Fan Controller - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21571/bus-366/Reeven_RFC-01_Six_Eyes_525_Bay_Fan_Controller_Temperature_Display_-_Black.html

CABLE SLEEVING

40 Sata Power Connector (2) - FrozenCPU ConnectRight DIY SATA EZ Crimp Connector - Black - 90° (M-SCA-16F-BK) w/ End Cap
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1792/ele-135/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_DIY_SATA_EZ_Crimp_Connector_-_Black_-_90_M-SCA-16F-BK.html

41 Sata Power Connector (2) - FrozenCPU ConnectRight DIY SATA EZ Crimp Connector - Black - 90° (M-SCA-16F-BK) w/ Pass Thru Cap
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1792/ele-135/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_DIY_SATA_EZ_Crimp_Connector_-_Black_-_90_M-SCA-16F-BK.html

42 6-Pin Seasonic PSU Connector (3) - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 6-Pin (Upside Down) Female PSU Power Connector - Corsair / Seasonic - Black http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21200/ele-1209/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_6-Pin_Upside_Down_Female_PSU_Power_Connector_-_Corsair_Seasonic_-_Black.html

43 Female ATX pins (40) FrozenCPU ConnectRight ATX / PCI / EPS Gold-Plated Connector Pins - Female - 4 Pack http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9673/ele-599/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_ATX_PCI_EPS_Gold-Plated_Connector_Pins_-_Female_-_4_Pack.html

44 PCI-E 8-Pin Power Connector (2) - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 8-pin Female PCI-Express Power Connector - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8692/ele-368/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_8-pin_Female_PCI-Express_Power_Connector_-_Black.html?tl=g51c383s1008

45 PCI-E 6+2-Pin Power Connector (3) - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 6+2-pin Female PCI-Express Power Connector - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10187/ele-621/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_62-pin_Female_PCI-Express_Power_Connector_-_Black.html

46 CPU 12-Pin PSU Seasonic Connector - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 12-Pin Female PSU Power Connector - Corsair / Seasonic - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19662/ele-1172/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_12-Pin_Female_PSU_Power_Connector_-_Corsair_Seasonic_-_Black.html

47 MoBo 8-Pin Connector - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 8-pin 12V EPS Power Connector - Black (ACR-CB0618)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6008/ele-268/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_8-pin_12V_EPS_Power_Connector_-_Black_ACR-CB0618.html?tl=g51c383s1009

48 24 Pin @ MoBo - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 24-Pin Female ATX Power Connector - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1807/ele-151/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_24-Pin_Female_ATX_Power_Connector_-_Black.html?tl=g51c379s1012

49 18 Pin @ PSU Seasonic x-1250 - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 18-Pin Female PSU Power Connector - Corsair / Seasonic - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19673/ele-1181/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_18-Pin_Female_PSU_Power_Connector_-_Corsair_Seasonic_-_Black.html?tl=g51c621s1964

50 10 Pin @ PSU Seasonic x-1250 - FrozenCPU ConnectRight 10-Pin Female PSU Power Connector - Corsair / Seasonic - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19648/ele-1163/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_10-Pin_Female_PSU_Power_Connector_-_Corsair_Seasonic_-_Black.html?tl=g51c621s1962

51 Fan Controller Connector(2) - FrozenCPU ConnectRight Floppy Power Connector - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1765/ele-105/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_Floppy_Power_Connector_-_Black.html?tl=g51c387s1015

52 Novelty Item

53 Female Floppy Pins (2) FrozenCPU ConnectRight Silver Plated Female Floppy Pins (set of 4)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7223/ele-336/FrozenCPU_ConnectRight_Silver_Plated_Female_Floppy_Pins_set_of_4.html?tl=g51c393s323

54 12V Cable Sleeving - Mod/Smart Kobra MaxCord High Density Paracord 16 - 18AWG Sleeving 1/8" - Red - 100 Foot Spool
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21443/slv-450/ModSmart_Kobra_MaxCord_High_Density_Paracord_16_-_18AWG_Sleeving_18_-_Red_-_100_Foot_Spool.html

55 12V Cable Sleeving - Mod/Smart Kobra MaxCord High Density Paracord 16 - 18AWG Sleeving 1/8" - White - 100 Foot Spool
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21462/slv-469/ModSmart_Kobra_MaxCord_High_Density_Paracord_16_-_18AWG_Sleeving_18_-_White_-_100_Foot_Spool.html

56 Fan Cable Sleeving - Mod/Smart Kobra MaxCord High Density Paracord 16 - 18AWG Sleeving 1/8" - Black - 100 Foot Spool
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21421/slv-432/ModSmart_Kobra_MaxCord_High_Density_Paracord_16_-_18AWG_Sleeving_18_-_Black_-_100_Foot_Spool.html?tl=g35c641

57 Heat Shrink Material - 1/8" Black Heatshrink
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1769/ele-11/18_Black_Heatshrink.html?tl=g35c179s369

58 LED harness - 3mm LED Harness w/ 24" 2 Pin Connector
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6245/cab-100/3mm_LED_Harness_w_24_2_Pin_Connector.html?id=VvweqcDg&mv_pc=441

18 AWG Black, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 100', 18AWG, CU, Black
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-00-100/hook-up-wire-100ft-18awg-cu-pvc/dp/33C7292

18 AWG Yellow, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 100', 18AWG, CU, Yellow
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-04-100/hook-up-wire-100ft-18awg-cu-pvc/dp/33C7302

18 AWG Red, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 100', 18AWG, CU, Red
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-02-100/hook-up-wire-100ft-18awg-cu-red/dp/33C7297

18 AWG Orange, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 100', 18AWG, CU, Orange
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-03-100/hook-up-wire-100ft-18awg-cu-orange/dp/33C7300

18 AWG Blue, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 25', 18AWG, CU, Blue
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-06-25/hook-up-wire-25ft-18awg-cu-blue/dp/33C7307

18 AWG Green, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 25', 18AWG, CU, Green
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-05-25/hook-up-wire-25ft-18awg-cu-grn/dp/33C7305

18 AWG Purple, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 25', 18AWG, CU, Violet
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-07-25/hook-up-wire-25ft-18awg-cu-violet/dp/33C7309

18 AWG Gray, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 25', 18AWG, CU, Gray
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-08-25/hook-up-wire-25ft-18awg-cu-gray/dp/33C7311

18 AWG White, 300v - NTE HookUp Wire, 25', 18AWG, CU, White
http://www.newark.com/nte-electronics/wh18-09-25/hook-up-wire-25ft-18awg-cu-white/dp/33C7313?ost=33C7313